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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:03 AM Feb 2015

Truth in Media: The Origin of ISIS

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“That’s how we got to where we are, because of war, because of occupation, because of torture,” Keaton said. “The United States government completely destabilized and wrecked Iraq. They caused it to fail miserably and that is entirely the fault of the United States government. There is no one else to blame.”


..........“Then, came a pivotal moment that most Americans aren’t even aware of,” Swann said. “In June 2013, a Northern General for the Free Syrian Army spoke out on Al Jazeera Qatar and stated that if international forces did not send weapons, the rebels attempting to overthrow Syrian president Bashar al-Assad would lose their war within a month.”

Swann noted that just months before this occurred he had personally confronted President Obama on the issue of why the U.S. was covertly funding Syrian rebels. Although Obama acted as if he was proceeding with caution, politicians such as Senator John McCain demanded action.

“Within a matter of weeks of the Syrian general making his plea for international help, the U.S., the Saudis, Jordan, Qatar, Turkey and Israel began providing weapons, training and money to so-called rebel groups like the Free Syrian Army,” Swann said.

In September 2013, American media outlets began reporting that weapons were being given to Syrian rebels. CNN reported that while the weapons are not “American-made,” they were “funded and organized by the CIA.”


Full article: http://benswann.com/truth-in-media-the-origin-of-isis/
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jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
1. What I would like to know
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:54 AM
Feb 2015

is why ISIS is hell bent on drawing the US into the war in Syria. They have committed the most outrageous attacks on just about every nation who has had second thoughts on joining the fight. At the time when England was skeptical about the whole ISIS thing, they killed an english man and put the video on TV. They have now done the same for US, France and Japan.

I want to know what they gain apart from a few moronic fighters from the west by bringing the US into the war. Nobody wants the US to fight them not even Russia but these fools somehow wants to be a US problem? Also why haven't we sanctioned the hell out of countries and institutions that patronize ISIS? why is Al Nusra front fighting for access to the Golan Heights.

Lots of questions that needs to be answered cos this whole ISIS deal stinks.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
2. Assad has to go, just like Qaddafi did when NATO was called in to 'aid' the
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 07:01 AM
Feb 2015

rebels - (that 'humanitarian mission' that wasn't). Putin stopped all out war on Syria, once - much wanted by certain warmongers in the west and ME. Can you please point to which of the Gulf States funding ISIS have been sanctioned, I've honestly missed seeing that.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
11. It is my belief that the Syrian people have already lost due to drought and the destruction of
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 01:18 PM
Feb 2015

their infrastructure. As the country is now, flattened-if you will, the removal of Assad will have to wait for another day. After the extermination of non-Wahhabian Muslims by IS, pretending to be for the Syrian people, IS is leaving Syria. Many IS members live in Mosul. They terrorize and murder during the day. They are terrorizing Mosul again recently by burning a library. Part of their goal is to destroy all the modernization in the Levant. Jeb Bush talked about this in his disheveled speech the other day when he mentioned 1915. The Middle East and Near East, the Levant, rulers wanted to modernize their countries as oil had been discovered and would bring in a fortune in Gold or oil that could be used as money; black gold.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
10. The goal of IS Wahhabianist is to rid the world of Muslims, Christians anyone not accepting their
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 12:46 PM
Feb 2015

control of the WORLD, through Jihad. A jihad is the suspension of the teachings of Mohammad/Koran until World domination is achieved by IS-Islamic State. An invitation to a duel is an acceptable form of killing in the thinking of the West, so they invite fighters to their insurrection.

Add a president like Scott Walker, who destroys his own fellow statesmen lifestyles and stability by Right to Work/Right to Life for the good of war machine corporatist/MIC politicians. A president who will get rid of young men and women through the draft; those who cannot afford to go to college or find a job, those who were not planned for by their parent(s) or aborted by the GOP government.

We have a president like B. Obama, who is bi-partisan; allowing some government buying of weapons contracts, but no young American boots on the ground (except those that enlist).

Summary: The US should have never intervened in an Inner-Islamic War even though Bush started it and left an unbalanced Islamic Sect in power in Iraq so Sunni fighters would flee to Syria in his/Bush's second term.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
3. Great video.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 08:28 AM
Feb 2015

The only unfortunate part is that the man they interviewed is from the Ron Paul Institute. Oh well.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
5. Aside from that, I highly recommend this video.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 09:36 AM
Feb 2015

It explains the origins of ISIS better than anything else I've seen so far....

libodem

(19,288 posts)
6. It really is sad
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:41 AM
Feb 2015

And it's hard to figure out what the truth is. I've been wondering since June when 'they' came up with a new name for gods sake. Did they have a committee meeting in a tent somewhere? Or did the media or government say who calls themselves Al Qaeda of Syria or Yemen.

The military industrial complex like Raytheon, GE, General Dynamics, and so on get rich when they get orders for guns, tanks, and bombs. That increases when we get our war on.

It's that same insidious mandate of any Corporate model 'who' are granted human/personhood status. Only these humans are psychopaths with no morals. The mission is to make a profit. Wars are necessary for America's wealth creators.
They don't care if it literally costs our kids an arm and a leg.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. Indeed. And the American media is as vital to American world wide war as the obscenely massive spending.
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:44 AM
Feb 2015

libodem

(19,288 posts)
8. What we really need
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:55 AM
Feb 2015

Are some more food stamp cuts to pay for it all.

Middle class tax payers are just a cash cow for Republican nation destroyers. The rich don't want to fund our schools and public infrastructure so they get the tax cuts. Then all our money goes to Bradleys and tanks to kill people far away. Then we get food stamp cuts for our thanks and crumbling roads and bridges at home.

This video has a lot of insight into our part in funding ISIS so we have a boogie man to throw money at.

panfluteman

(2,075 posts)
9. WÖW! What a Great Video!
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 11:39 AM
Feb 2015

And what a clear, well-presented teach-in on ISIS. I had vaguely understood bits and pieces of the situation before, but now I have a clear perspective on the whole puzzle. "The US is very good at blowing things up, but not very good at putting countries back together". The understatement of the year, in my book! The whole thing seems to go on on two levels - what really happened, which is carefully hidden and concealed, and then the smoke and mirrors shadow play and sensationalized melodrama that goes on on the surface. But the bottom line is that everything is carefully orchestrated to give the defense contractors and arms dealers the maximum sales and business opportunity possible - and they make a killing off of the perpetuation of war at the expense of the American taxpayer. The military industrial complex seems to operate in an amoral universe in which nothing else matters except that their arms products are getting sold and used - doesn't make any difference how they're being used, or who's killing who.

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