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Published on Apr 16, 2015
Thom Hartmann wonders how the Republican party will respond as the "suckers" begin to awaken?
Interesting as always on his own show talking of important things.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)and then you wont have to steal future elections as your base dwindles.
Remember, they exist SOLELY to profit off of you and me AND to cause as much death and misery as possible for brown and asian and gay and muslim etc.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)more often than I have left them out, but still.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)discrimination. That we do.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Otherwise known as the national ALEC agenda, set 30 years ago. A generation has grown up with it:
They have gotten just about every thing on their list, playing to all sides who don't understand the world the Koch brothers are forcing on us piecemeal. They are positioned to finish the task. Not voting for the Democrats is a vote to let them have it all:
BERNIE SANDERS Uncovers 1980 Koch Agenda- "What Do the Koch Brothers Want?"
What else do the Koch brothers want?
In 1980, David Koch ran as the Libertarian Partys vice-presidential candidate in 1980.
Lets take a look at the 1980 Libertarian Party platform.
Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:
We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.
We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.
We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.
We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.
We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.
We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.
We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.
We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.
As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.
We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.
We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.
We condemn compulsory education laws and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.
We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.
We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.
We support abolition of the Department of Energy.
We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.
We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.
We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called "self-protection" equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.
We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.
We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.
We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.
We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and aid to the poor programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.
We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.
We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.
We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
We support the repeal of all state usury laws.
In other words, the agenda of the Koch brothers is not only to defund Obamacare. The agenda of the Koch brothers is to repeal every major piece of legislation that has been signed into law over the past 80 years that has protected the middle class, the elderly, the children, the sick, and the most vulnerable in this country...
Tomorrow it will be Social Security, ending Medicare as we know it, repealing the minimum wage. It seems to me that the Koch brothers will not be content until they get everything they believe they are entitled to.
Our great nation can no longer be hijacked by right-wing billionaires like the Koch brothers.
For the sake of our children and our grandchildren, for the sake of our economy, we have got to let democracy prevail.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806298
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a7980koch
to kpete:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806298
Note that Reid was revealing the same and then the Bundy fiasco in his own back yard broke into the news cycle and deflated the one or two dates attention this was given on MSM. So everyone forgot it. The old men behind the curtain reached out with the crook and pulled Sanders and Reid off the air for a marathon of reichwing glory.
We've heard these memes for years, Americans have come to believe this is how it has to be. It's the recipe for neo-feudalism.
Another explanation of this here:
How Freedom Became Tyranny
Rightwing libertarians have turned freedom into an excuse for greed and exploitation.
George Monbiot - December 19, 2011
Freedom: who could object? Yet this word is now used to justify a thousand forms of exploitation. Throughout the rightwing press and blogosphere, among thinktanks and governments, the word excuses every assault on the lives of the poor, every form of inequality and intrusion to which the 1% subject us. How did libertarianism, once a noble impulse, become synonymous with injustice?
In the name of freedom freedom from regulation the banks were permitted to wreck the economy. In the name of freedom, taxes for the super-rich are cut. In the name of freedom, companies lobby to drop the minimum wage and raise working hours. In the same cause, US insurers lobby Congress to thwart effective public healthcare; the government rips up our planning laws; big business trashes the biosphere. This is the freedom of the powerful to exploit the weak, the rich to exploit the poor.
Right-wing libertarianism recognises few legitimate constraints on the power to act, regardless of the impact on the lives of others. In the UK it is forcefully promoted by groups like the TaxPayers Alliance, the Adam Smith Institute, the Institute of Economic Affairs and Policy Exchange. Their conception of freedom looks to me like nothing but a justification for greed.
So why have we been been so slow to challenge this concept of liberty? I believe that one of the reasons is as follows. The great political conflict of our age between neocons and the millionaires and corporations they support on one side and social justice campaigners and environmentalists on the other has been mischaracterised as a clash between negative and positive freedoms. *
More at the link about the meaning of positive and negative freedoms and how the word is being used against us:
http://www.monbiot.com/2011/12/19/how-freedom-became-tyranny/
Even better, is the video of how they are systematically returning us to feudalism, which I posted on before:
It's called feudalism. Where you must pay the baron to use his road and you will bow to your betters or else be killed by those who directly benefit from strong man rule.
Like Rand Paul bragging about his private security that makes him feel safe, surrounded by Second Amendment solution riflemen who want to 'restore' the USA to its rightful rulers. Same thing as the CSA wanted, where only white men will rule.
Like the OC crowd who want to replace all LEOs. I don't want these misogynist, racist, LGBT hating, theocrats patrolling our streets looking for victims. The bottom line of how this looks is shown here:
Where social mobility is a pipe dream, slavery is what some people are born to be in and they deserve it. Historically all caused by reducing government until it is so weak it cannot enforce laws as it was the only force keeping feudalism at bay.
Yes, Grover Nordquest knew that cutting off funds and denying government taxe revenue was the way to do this and demanded the allegiance of the GOP, as the Koch brothers do now.
Thom Hartmann did a great analysis in this clip, referring to an author who states the case plainly:
*Screw the Libertarians in the GOP, Democratic Party or any other party who says the ends justify the means no matter who is destroyed. This is the era we are living in, so please listen to that video carefully, DU!
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)zebonaut
(3,688 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Aristocracy, Timarchy, Oligarchy, Democracy and finally...Tyranny...which will create chaos and the cry/demand for order which will be prelude to Aristocracy/control by a King or Emperor.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)world wide wally
(21,743 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Look at the police reaction over the last few years. The state will continue to clamp down on any shifts leftward.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)would be to read her trash books. Must be getting ready for another come-back, Coultergeist
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Yep. I believe that people like "Turd Blossom" thought the fix was accomplished in 2012...accounting for the strange appearances and gobble-de-gook language...what happened to Ohio? I think hackers who want fair elections better be ready for work in 2016...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He predicted that millions of people would continue to be disenfranchised at every election because of either government sponsored theft by the GOP.
Such as Jeb and George worked together as governors of their two respective states, sharing felon lists to make spurious claims of illegal voting.
It doesn't take much to engineer such a coup when it is well funded, months or years in planning (see PNAC from Bush the Elder's days in office) and media (Faux in particular) complies with the lie. So many democratic institutions were shredded then, and they went full speed ahead on their plan for getting a 'permanent Republican majority' as they called it.
I expect there will be many poll watchers and attorneys busy to keep the vote honest. As honest as it can be. My blue state was ignorant enough to elect a Tea Party zealot and she tried to use one of the databases that have been created by the reichwing to disenfranchise people. Millions of people in other states did not have their votes in 2014 counted and did not even know it, as they were notified there was anything wrong. We have had blatant attempts by the GOP both state wide and nationally to pull dirty tricks on voting because we vote Democratic. The push is on.
George II
(67,782 posts)....too bad Ann Coulter's mother didn't have a "Plan B" years ago!
rtracey
(2,062 posts)I wish the republican mothers would have used Plan B.