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EarlG

(21,941 posts)
Thu May 7, 2015, 12:05 PM May 2015

Pic Of Moment: Sorry Homophobes, Your Time Is Up



More Americans Are Comfortable With A Gay Presidential Candidate Than With An Evangelical One


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Pic Of Moment: Sorry Homophobes, Your Time Is Up (Original Post) EarlG May 2015 OP
Take that Pukes and Bagger! SoapBox May 2015 #1
I don't know... Canoe52 May 2015 #32
And, thankfully, our suite of Democratic Party contenders for the high office agree! NYC_SKP May 2015 #2
Nice... cilla4progress May 2015 #5
Im stealing your yuiyoshida May 2015 #20
Wow, this is great!!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #3
But we can still hate the atheists, right? brooklynite May 2015 #4
I don't bother to discriminate -- I hate everyone. Buzz Clik May 2015 #10
I bet Atheist would poll Mr.Bill May 2015 #24
I have seen several polls... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #28
Its polls like this that stun me... Moostache May 2015 #6
seriously. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #17
Marcus Bachmann for President lame54 May 2015 #7
No way in hell... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #29
It would be 4 glorious years snort May 2015 #35
So Wisconsin DOES have a potentially viable Presidential candidate after all! Still In Wisconsin May 2015 #8
. AuntPatsy May 2015 #9
61 vs 52? Are there really people ok with either? alp227 May 2015 #11
Surely there are gay evangelical Christians.... MADem May 2015 #21
ha, but after that lawsuit victory NewJeffCT May 2015 #12
Why such exclusivity? douggg May 2015 #13
K/R Jack Rabbit May 2015 #14
52%? I'm not comfortable with that figure! malthaussen May 2015 #15
You and me both d_legendary1 May 2015 #18
See the links at post 21. Not all evangelicals are fundies, apparently. MADem May 2015 #22
Yes, I'm sure there are some... malthaussen May 2015 #30
I dont know any gays who long for the end of the world. nt 7962 May 2015 #16
The tipping point, at long last! MADem May 2015 #19
Remember Bush won critical states by playing the "Teh gays are evil!!!!!1!!1!" card. Initech May 2015 #23
We had an evangelical Christian President in Jimmy Carter.. mountain grammy May 2015 #25
say hello to E V O L U T I O N NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #26
A gay or lesbian president okay ... Quasimodem May 2015 #27
I love this feature! Please don't ever get tired of doing it. n/t eridani May 2015 #31
I still keep thinking about the fact that Republicans RAN on being anti-gay in '04. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #33
Some more data on the poll: Amimnoch May 2015 #34
The Christian Right (and I say that extremely loosely) Iliyah May 2015 #36

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
5. Nice...
Thu May 7, 2015, 12:30 PM
May 2015

props to you for give props to all candidates on our side. This is how I plan to proceed. Goddess bless 'em, one and all!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
28. I have seen several polls...
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:47 PM
May 2015

asking about Muslim, gay, atheist, etc, candidates for the presidency. We atheists always come in dead last. While we may not be attacked as often as other groups (probably because we don't talk about it, especially if we live in the bible belt) we tend to be one of the most hated.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
6. Its polls like this that stun me...
Thu May 7, 2015, 12:31 PM
May 2015

If this is accurate, and I am not doubting that it is since the social mores of the age have been changing very rapidly ever since the world did not end once a few states allowed gays to have marriage equality; but if it is accurate across the entire voting population I am stunned that the GOP is not in full decline LOCALLY as well as NATIONALLY.

The gerrymandering that they pulled off by being in charge of re-districting following the 2000 and 2010 censuses is astounding.

In addition to term limits, strictly enforced and publicly funded elections and rescinding the draconian voter ID laws in favor of mandatory voting of ALL citizens of legal status to do so, fixing the damn voting districts to end this nonsense should be of paramount concern.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
17. seriously.
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:10 PM
May 2015

I'm glad the percentage of sane, decent people is higher, but it's still stunning to see the troglodyte level so high.

Evangelical christians are some of the sickest tickets going.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
29. No way in hell...
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:49 PM
May 2015

I don't want his wife any where near the White House. I don't even want her to see it.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
8. So Wisconsin DOES have a potentially viable Presidential candidate after all!
Thu May 7, 2015, 01:25 PM
May 2015

We can substitute (lesbian) Tammy Baldwin for (evangelical) Scott Walker. Much more electable!

alp227

(32,015 posts)
11. 61 vs 52? Are there really people ok with either?
Thu May 7, 2015, 02:10 PM
May 2015

The poll must have used "evangelical" as a qualifier, importantly.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Surely there are gay evangelical Christians....
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:27 PM
May 2015

And surely not all evangelical Christians are of the "fundamentalist" variety...?

I'm a bit out of my wheelhouse on this matter, but I don't think all "evangelical Christians" are necessarily conservative and fundamentalist. My Google tells me so!

http://ecinc.org/

https://evangelicaliberal.wordpress.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_left

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. ha, but after that lawsuit victory
Thu May 7, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

with the woman suing ALL gay people, you gays will be finished, finished I tell ya!



douggg

(239 posts)
13. Why such exclusivity?
Thu May 7, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

Get a Ted Haggard and we get evangelical, conservative, gay and drug use as an added bonus.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
18. You and me both
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:20 PM
May 2015

Its means 52% of those surveyed have no problems with Cruz or
A-Yuck-abee taking the white house.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. See the links at post 21. Not all evangelicals are fundies, apparently.
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:33 PM
May 2015

Some are liberal. Some are gay.

Who knew?

It looks like people are taking back that end of the Christian religious spectrum and it is no longer the exclusive province of fundie conservatives.

When you think about it, it makes sense. Wasn't the Jesus of the Bible an "evangelical" who spread the "Good news?" Wasn't he the guy who didn't have a word to say about being gay? Wasn't he the guy who was so liberal, one might call him a socialist? Sharing all that food, healing the sick, sheltering the homeless, suffering all those little children to come unto him, etc...?

If the idea of being "evangelical" is to be like the Jesus of the Bible spreading the word of a religion of love, then being a religious liberal who doesn't worry about gays or abortion fits the bill, I'd say.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
30. Yes, I'm sure there are some...
Thu May 7, 2015, 07:04 PM
May 2015

... since all human behavior is subject to the tyranny of the bell curve. The question, however, is how large of a percentage of the respondents perceive evangelicals as super-conservatives, and how many see them as liberal. No stats on that, but I instinctively feel the number is few.

-- Mal

Initech

(100,056 posts)
23. Remember Bush won critical states by playing the "Teh gays are evil!!!!!1!!1!" card.
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:02 PM
May 2015

Thankfully this isn't 2000 anymore and no candidate, not even the "holier than thou" candidates like Ted Cruz or Mike Huckabee can pull that shit again or they'll be laughed out of the primaries.

mountain grammy

(26,608 posts)
25. We had an evangelical Christian President in Jimmy Carter..
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:20 PM
May 2015

It totally can work, depends on the man. I once asked my evangelical brother in law how he could be so critical of that wonderful Christian President Carter.

Quasimodem

(441 posts)
27. A gay or lesbian president okay ...
Thu May 7, 2015, 06:37 PM
May 2015

... but didn't we already have an evangelical president?

Of course, he was also a dry drunk, but that didn't seem to matter to the evangelicals.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
34. Some more data on the poll:
Fri May 8, 2015, 06:11 AM
May 2015

The poll was on a lot more than questioning comfort with a gay candidate or an evangelical.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/what-americans-want-dont-want-presidential-candidate-n354141

The following shows the results. Note, they used "enthusiastic," "comfortable," "have reservations" or "uncomfortable" based question on each category, then subtracted the "have reservations" or "uncomfortable" replies from the Enthusiastic" or "comfortable" replies with the following results:





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