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Mark The Artist Taxi Driver Sums Up What Just Happened In The UK... (Original Post) Turborama May 2015 OP
K&R! Katashi_itto May 2015 #1
Every dictatorship realized that it must control the press. olegramps May 2015 #9
Yep, you nailed it... Turborama May 2015 #15
Good Luck mtasselin May 2015 #2
I feel your pain Mark. SamKnause May 2015 #3
"Labour was trying to be too clever..." villager May 2015 #4
Wow. narnian60 May 2015 #5
The beatings will continue until morale Improves n2doc May 2015 #6
Bloody Hell. madamvlb May 2015 #7
And what is happening there is happening here. zeemike May 2015 #8
you mean they have con talk radio and the left certainot May 2015 #13
Well I don't know if they do or not. zeemike May 2015 #17
like saying those salmon should forget about the dams certainot May 2015 #18
Precisely swilton May 2015 #20
There are remarkable similarities between our two countries. zeemike May 2015 #21
This Bloody S#*t Is Happenin' On Both Sides of the Pond, Mate! panfluteman May 2015 #10
I did't think 'Hope and Change' meant embracing the TPP. jalan48 May 2015 #11
any brits there? do you have con talk radio over there? certainot May 2015 #12
this is us after 2016 if the left certainot May 2015 #14
fellow duers DonCoquixote May 2015 #16
Seeing the parallels, USA? I do… MrMickeysMom May 2015 #19

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
9. Every dictatorship realized that it must control the press.
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:22 AM
May 2015

What is happening is nothing more than the result of the oligarchs successful dominance of the press. Their sights are now set on control of the internet.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
15. Yep, you nailed it...
Fri May 8, 2015, 10:35 PM
May 2015
Snoopers' charter set to return to law as Theresa May suggests Conservative majority could lead to huge increase in surveillance powers

The Conservatives are already planning to introduce the huge surveillance powers known as the Snoopers’ Charter, hoping that the removal from government of the Liberal Democrats that previously blocked the controversial law will allow it to go through.

The law, officially known as the Draft Communications Data Bill, is already back on the agenda according to Theresa May. It is expected to force British internet service providers to keep huge amounts of data on their customers, and to make that information available to the government and security services.

The snoopers’ charter received huge criticism from computing experts and civil liberties campaigners in the wake of introduction. It was set to come into law in 2014, but Nick Clegg withdrew his support for the bill and it was blocked by the Liberal Democrats.

Theresa May, who led the legislation as home secretary, said shortly after the Conservatives' election victory became clear that she will seek to re-introduce it to government. With the re-election of May and the likely majority of her party, the bill is likely to find success if the new government tries again.

David Cameron has suggested that his party could introduce even more wide-ranging powers if he was re-elected to government. Speaking in January, he said that there should be no form of communication that the government was unable to read — likely causing chaos among the many internet services that rely on encryption to keep users’ data safe.

Full article: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/snoopers-charter-set-to-return-to-law-as-theresa-may-suggests-conservative-majority-could-lead-to-huge-increase-in-surveillance-powers-10235578.html

mtasselin

(666 posts)
2. Good Luck
Fri May 8, 2015, 06:58 AM
May 2015

I think you are going to need some, because your torries is our tea party which is controlled by the ultra rich. Your torries don't realize that they are being used and by the time they do realize it, it will be to late. They control the media which now days means they are controlling the minds.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
3. I feel your pain Mark.
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:00 AM
May 2015

My condolences.

The same thing happens in the U.S.

I don't know why they vote against their best

interest in the U.S.

Conservatives, Tories, Republicans, Tea Party or whatever they

they are called around the globe are evil !!!!!!!!!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. And what is happening there is happening here.
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:52 AM
May 2015

It is not that the conservatives have good ideas, it is that the liberals sell us out to big money.

The UK has their third way too.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
17. Well I don't know if they do or not.
Fri May 8, 2015, 11:53 PM
May 2015

But to borrow from Shakespeare...The fault dear Certainot is not in talk radio but in ourselves.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
20. Precisely
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:34 AM
May 2015

Margaret Thatcher's greatest victory was creating Tony Blair - that was when the Labor Party had a defacto split between the 'third wayers' - with Blair's pro austerity, pro-war (NATO led wars in the Balkans comes to mind which was the first use of NATo when one of its members wasn't coming under threat - a violation of the UN Charter; wars in the Balkans was also first time use of force outside of UN Security Council), neo-liberalism - and Tony Benn who was more of a social democrat than a 'third way' labor party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Benn#Move_to_the_Left

Tony Benn on the failed policies of Tony Blair

http://www.bigissue.com/features/interviews/3202/tony-benn-interview-labour-suffered-greatly-through-tony-blair


It isn't that the British public chose the conservative Tories, it was that the Labor Party's base has been turned off...Starting with Blair (coinciding with the entre of Clinton into national US politics which is curious) they are not longer passionate about Labor and choose to stay home.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
21. There are remarkable similarities between our two countries.
Sat May 9, 2015, 01:47 PM
May 2015

Not too surprising though, since we were once a colony of the British.
And I am not at all sure it is just a coincidence.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
10. This Bloody S#*t Is Happenin' On Both Sides of the Pond, Mate!
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:02 PM
May 2015

It hit the fan over in the Sates last November, and it flew all the way over to bloody Westminster! Maybe the Koch brothers are standing, like the bloody Colossus of Rhodes, with one foot on one side of the pond, and the other foot on the other. It does seem kind of like an episode from some sci-fi or horror movie about zombies or pod people, the way people are getting brainwashed by the media to vote against their own best interests - or maybe even discouraged from voting at all. I'm sure that the limey one percent are keen students of what has been happening with Tea Party politics and demagoguery stateside, and have been assiduously applying what they have learned to their own particular situation and circumstances. Blimey!

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
12. any brits there? do you have con talk radio over there?
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:12 PM
May 2015

if you do you might want to do something about it.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
16. fellow duers
Fri May 8, 2015, 11:22 PM
May 2015

where you watching this and seeing yourselves back in a bad Novermber of 2000? I was. I just hope this is not a preview of 2016.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
19. Seeing the parallels, USA? I do…
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:28 AM
May 2015

What many may not WANT to see is the parallel between the Labor Party and those 3rd Way Democrats.

Same arguments…. DOOMED to failure if we do not depart from the HRC crowd who sold out long ago.

Same arguments… Those who insist doing the same thing over meet the definition of being nuts.

Do not sell out…. CHECK IN!

You think this portends what we will be seeing from our version of the Labor Party in 2016. You bet your ASS it does!

WATCH !

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