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They're here: (Original Post) zebonaut May 2015 OP
As if cabbies didn't have enough of a battle with Ubber. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #1
I'd prefer this over Uber rapists n/t PatrynXX May 2015 #3
Over any kind of rapists, right? demwing May 2015 #4
This likely isn't going to compete with cabbies. MADem May 2015 #5
What happens when you hail the cab and find there's no driver? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #6
Or this -- byronius May 2015 #7
Ever notice things in scifi movies always explode like they have a gas tank? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #8
Sue me dickhead! SoapBox May 2015 #16
I think we're a ways from that paradigm. One day, perhaps. MADem May 2015 #9
I think the price could be calculated from the computer Elmer S. E. Dump May 2015 #10
The cabbie's name isn't an issue--it's YOUR name that is taken down. MADem May 2015 #11
Whats a Cabbie? zebonaut May 2015 #12
Someone who doesn't notice black people. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #17
New freedom for seniors who have given up driving due to PADemD May 2015 #2
It's going to wonderful if you can afford it. In_The_Wind May 2015 #13
So, will there still have to be a licensed driver in the car? 1monster May 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author 1monster May 2015 #14
I'll bet they are really bad at playing chicken though. Kablooie May 2015 #18
They don't drive drunk or sleepy either. hunter May 2015 #21
Because what could go wrong? marble falls May 2015 #19
I will be happy when the age of the personal automobile is over. hunter May 2015 #20
With modest infrastructure investment, self driving vehicles whereisjustice May 2015 #22
What does it run on? Electric? RBInMaine May 2015 #23

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. This likely isn't going to compete with cabbies.
Fri May 15, 2015, 03:26 PM
May 2015

This requires a huge expenditure of funds. And you still have to find a place to park the darn thing. If I'm in a hotel in NYC and I want to go uptown, I'm not going to go to my overpriced parking spot and hop in my Google car and then try to find a place to park when I reach my destination, I'm going to hail a cab.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. I think we're a ways from that paradigm. One day, perhaps.
Fri May 15, 2015, 05:10 PM
May 2015

I think, to start, that all passengers will have to be "known" quantities to the owners of the vehicle in order for that to work. It wouldn't be a Big Wave to pull the cab over, one would have to dial into the company and the company would send a vehicle to your location based on finding your cellphone or a transponder, or something on those lines. You'd have to give up a tremendous amount of privacy to a provider in order to make that work.

Right now, you can hand the driver cash, say keep the change, and go on your merry way. You don't know the cabbie's name unless you carefully scrutinize his credentials (not easy in the still of the night), he doesn't know yours unless you volunteer to pay with a card. His knowledge of you is limited to that which might be picked up on a lipstick camera if s/he has such a thing installed. Without a driver, there's going to have to be a process that identifies the passenger by name--a credit card, a "cab" account, some mechanism that pays the taxi company. I suppose they could put in a cash reader, but that would encourage bad people to direct the cabs to a dark alley, have someone block the thing in, and break into the cashbox. I think they'd rather find another way to make the transaction.

Eventually, we might have self-driving buses, too. We're already close to self-driving big rig trucks. Planes pretty much fly themselves for a good portion of the flight. You'll always have people who need assistance, that's the sort of folks I drive on occasion (I help out old people -- or should I say, oldER people--with errands and so forth--it's my good deed). Driving is going to be one of those jobs, like "ash man" (poor, strong bastards who hauled coal ash by the great big heavy barrel full when furnaces were cleaned out) or "street cleaner" (a critical chore, given the horse poop that was everywhere on city streets) that goes by the wayside eventually, and is done "for fun" by people who find it relaxing--rather like horse back riding. Once upon a time, everyone who wanted mobility needed to be able to handle a horse, either hooked up to a carriage or up in the saddle. Nowadays, very few people have that skill. Times change. Progress marches on!

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
10. I think the price could be calculated from the computer
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:17 PM
May 2015

knowing the routes, traffic delays, and mileage - so possibly the money (or value debits) could be extracted up front. Plus, no need to know the cabbies name, because there wouldn't really be one. No tipping required either. In the best scenario, money would be debited automatically via information in a chip implanted under your eyebrow or behind your ear. The law states these chips cannot be implanted below the waist.

Or not....

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. The cabbie's name isn't an issue--it's YOUR name that is taken down.
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:30 PM
May 2015

In the current system, you can know your cabbie's name by looking at his or her credentials.

That cabbie doesn't need to know YOUR name, though, if you pay cash.

That 'chip' stuff is funny, but it has gotten FDA approval and I've read about a few places where they're doing it....ewwww!

http://www.cnet.com/news/swedish-office-gets-under-employees-skin-with-rfid-microchips/

Swedish office gets under employees' skin with RFID microchips
Forget your office door key? Can't remember the code for the photocopier? No need to worry if you happen to have a microchip implanted in your hand.


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6237364/ns/health-health_care/t/fda-approves-computer-chip-humans/#.VVZyU_lViko

FDA approves computer chip for humans

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
2. New freedom for seniors who have given up driving due to
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:13 PM
May 2015

failing eyesight and other physical limitations, like after shoulder surgery.

No more asking your children to take off of work to drive you to a doctor appointment or food shopping.

No more confused seniors driving the wrong way on a highway.

There are rural areas in this country with no cab service.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
14. So, will there still have to be a licensed driver in the car?
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:19 PM
May 2015

And how will parents keep the kids from figuring out how to program it and go down to the candy store in the middle of the night?

Response to zebonaut (Original post)

hunter

(38,303 posts)
21. They don't drive drunk or sleepy either.
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:41 AM
May 2015

Or shoot at one another in road rage or gang conflicts.


hunter

(38,303 posts)
20. I will be happy when the age of the personal automobile is over.
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:31 AM
May 2015

Personal automobiles do not in any way equal "freedom."

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
22. With modest infrastructure investment, self driving vehicles
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:45 PM
May 2015

can be made safe and efficient and minimize traffic jams. A simple system of sensors would greatly reduce the obvious problem of software not being able to predict trouble that it hasn't been programmed to respond to.

But this would take some national investment that doesn't involve military spending or sending jobs to Asia, something with both Democratic and Republican Parties are loath to advocate.

Unlike TPP and war.

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