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nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
Sat May 16, 2015, 04:24 PM May 2015

VIDEO: Reporter Seymour Hersh Discusses His Controversial Exposé on Killing of Osama bin Laden

Truthdig Posted on May 15, 2015

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh’s recent essay caused a political firestorm by repudiating almost everything we know about Osama bin Laden’s 2011 death.

In this interview with The Real News Network, Hersh dissects what he terms President Obama’s “fairy tale” narrative of the killing of the al-Qaida founder.

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/video_seymour_hersh_discusses_controversial_bin_laden_expose_20150515



Transcript: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=13859

Seymour (Sy) Myron Hersh (born April 8, 1937) is an American Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist and author based in Washington, DC. He is a regular contributor to The New Yorker magazine on military and security matters. His work first gained worldwide recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. He is a recipient of the 2004 George Orwell Award.

His 2004 reports on the US military's mistreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison gained much attention. Hersh received the 2004 George Polk Award for Magazine Reporting given annually by Long Island University to honor contributions to journalistic integrity and investigative reporting. This was his fifth George Polk Award, the first one being a Special Award given to him in 1969
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh


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VIDEO: Reporter Seymour Hersh Discusses His Controversial Exposé on Killing of Osama bin Laden (Original Post) nationalize the fed May 2015 OP
Good interview. pa28 May 2015 #1
Narrative wrt to UBL's location for several years & openly discussed repeatedly. 2banon May 2015 #12
He is not criticizing Obama or his administration. Just doing what investigative Journalists do newthinking May 2015 #2
Yes. Hersh is definitely not Obama-bashing RufusTFirefly May 2015 #3
Bin Laden must Die chiendauviem May 2015 #4
Bin Laden is dead already. hrmjustin May 2015 #5
I don't think you quite got that comment... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #7
Why do you say that? hrmjustin May 2015 #8
It requires reading and following how an official story is put out... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #10
oh ok. hrmjustin May 2015 #11
I'm not buying his story... SkyDaddy7 May 2015 #6
Are you saying that your source of interviews concludes better? MrMickeysMom May 2015 #9
If you would take the time to... SkyDaddy7 May 2015 #13
Well… I think that's the problem with being an investigative journalist... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #14

pa28

(6,145 posts)
1. Good interview.
Sat May 16, 2015, 05:07 PM
May 2015

Watching this I recalled how CNN and others reported that Bin Laden was living in Pakistan essentially under house arrest with the knowledge of Pakistani officials.

CNN quoted an anonymous NATO official saying that the top two leaders of Al Qaeda were living close to each other, but not together, in houses in northwest Pakistan, protected by locals and members of Pakistani intelligence. "Nobody in Al Qaeda is living in a cave," the official told CNN.


http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2010/1018/CNN-says-Pakistan-protecting-Osama-bin-Laden-France-on-alert-for-terrorist-attacks

Quite a bit of reporting before the actual raid corroborates Hersh's version of the situation.



 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
12. Narrative wrt to UBL's location for several years & openly discussed repeatedly.
Sun May 17, 2015, 02:58 PM
May 2015

and to your point, all of it and more absolutely correct.

I've been fairly busy with family medical emergencies, but did manage to pick up on DU's brigade of right wing trolls dispatched to diss Hersch's story, him personally and report. No shortage of manufactured propagandists, revisionists, or straight up liars it seems.


Seriously, one would have to have been born yesterday to have believed in the "official report" the moment it was announced and broadcast at the time of the events.

I mean who here did NOT intuit we were being spoon fed a staged production at the very instant it was being "revealed to the world"?

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
2. He is not criticizing Obama or his administration. Just doing what investigative Journalists do
Sat May 16, 2015, 06:32 PM
May 2015

I watched him on Democracy Now and he was very careful and not at all oppositional. He is simply being good at what he does.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
3. Yes. Hersh is definitely not Obama-bashing
Sat May 16, 2015, 07:15 PM
May 2015
"Just as a human being, I voted for him twice, and I think he's the smartest president we've had probably since Lincoln. You know, he's a pretty amazing guy."

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
7. I don't think you quite got that comment...
Sun May 17, 2015, 11:09 AM
May 2015

… It has nothing to do with where Bin Laden is…. more to do with the "story put out"...

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
10. It requires reading and following how an official story is put out...
Sun May 17, 2015, 11:19 AM
May 2015

Here's one: http://documentaryheaven.com/rfk-must-die-assassination-of-bobby-kennedy/

This is but one introduction to one of many books on the subject of Robert Kennedy and the probe of evidence based on what investigative journalists do. There are many reasons to put out official stories of assassinations. Interestingly, they often are to cover up CIA involvement into why we do what we do.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
6. I'm not buying his story...
Sun May 17, 2015, 11:07 AM
May 2015

I saw many interviews of people living around OBL's compound not long after the raid by many different media organizations from different countries & not a single person ever mentioned any Pakistani Army or police guarding the compound. Only that the people living in the compound kept to themselves & certain person came & went. There were even kids who lost toys or balls over the wall & there were no "guards" just a certain individual who either paid them or gave them their ball back. Hersh may have done good reporting long time ago but this report just does not mesh with the KNOWN FACTS.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
9. Are you saying that your source of interviews concludes better?
Sun May 17, 2015, 11:10 AM
May 2015

I didn't know you were an investigative journalist, SkyDaddy7!

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
13. If you would take the time to...
Mon May 18, 2015, 05:38 PM
May 2015

actually pay attention to multiple media sources & interviews from just after the raid of the people who live around the OBL compound none of them talk about it being under heavy guard at anytime whatsoever as he claims in his report...Quite the opposite. There are other questionable claims as well all from mysterious sources.

He needs to produce something real, tangible other than so-called anonymous sources...Something that meshes with known facts. He does not.

Too many people want everything to be a conspiracy or a cover-up & will believe anyone & everyone who puts forth a story saying so. I would like to see some proof & he provides little if any & some of what he does say flies in the face of what we know to be true.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
14. Well… I think that's the problem with being an investigative journalist...
Mon May 18, 2015, 11:20 PM
May 2015

You end up relying on sources, which this one has used pretty successfully before (controversial as the Iraq war reporting was). And if some of his sources do not wish to divulge complete information, then I supposed he can't be completely forensic with his end product… That's for criminal investigation and for readers to continue to probe in our never ending truth seeking.

Hersh pisses people off - this time, the Obama administration, who didn't outright deny anything… They went after him. So, he does the job of an investigative journalist… no "conspiracy" is intended… following the supportive evidence of those within the military, which is an area that he historically has covered in depth.

It's not what one "wants" to believe… It's the layers upon layers of bureaucratic control story, or non-denial denials doing what is anticipated that they kept out of the sunshine. If you think there is no such thing just because it's the military under (or surrounding) Obama, then you've probably believed a lot of fluff about the military, I'd say. Lots of us do.

The rest of us keep trying to get at the truth, which Seymour Hersh has thankfully dragged more successfully into the sun.

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