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Powerful. Bernie Sanders sets Rand Paul straight on the right to Healthcare (Original Post) zebonaut May 2015 OP
Hell yes! kenfrequed May 2015 #1
Very nice slap down rock May 2015 #2
A walking/talking bag of fallacies. erronis May 2015 #14
Too bad that Bernie did NOT actually set paul straight, elleng May 2015 #3
Rand Paul Plucketeer May 2015 #4
I honestly did not know that Duval May 2015 #5
Rand Paul's weaseliness on full display. Enthusiast May 2015 #6
K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #7
A.k.a. a Libertarian William Seger May 2015 #16
As a Physician you would have a generous salary. No one would "beat down your door with the Police". zebonaut May 2015 #8
But they don't want the citizenry to prosper. They would actually Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #24
Just slay the hucksters with the truth Bernie . Make them bleed . Go Bernie Go . geretogo May 2015 #9
Paul thinks paid professionals are slaves? Qutzupalotl May 2015 #10
That's basic first year contract law. Manifestor_of_Light May 2015 #11
In this society, we are all slaves at some level... Helen Borg May 2015 #26
LOL fbc May 2015 #12
I think I now understand how they see "Rights" and Aid and the government helping the citizens. LiberalArkie May 2015 #13
The only way to set those silver spoon fed rich brats straight project_bluebook May 2015 #15
We, as taxpayers, pay Paul's salary as a Senator William Seger May 2015 #17
Rand Paul is a senator from Kentucky. Unknown Beatle May 2015 #18
Oh, yeah William Seger May 2015 #19
Thanks for posting. JDPriestly May 2015 #20
Holy shit Rand Paul is an idiot. AtomicKitten May 2015 #21
Rand Paul is a moron kenfrequed May 2015 #22
Rand Paul has a point Enrique May 2015 #23
Rand Paul is just a dumb demagogue! Helen Borg May 2015 #25
They love that there, look at Shrub and Bonzo's buddy . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #28
Greenspan, Boner, this idiot. Who did Hillary ever chide on, orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #27
From Sicko: zebonaut May 2015 #29

rock

(13,218 posts)
2. Very nice slap down
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:21 PM
May 2015

Sen Paul is trying to pass deep-shit off as deep-logic. Because he breaks ALL the rules of logic it's hard to have an honest discussion and shown him where he's wrong. He's wrong everywhere.

erronis

(15,170 posts)
14. A walking/talking bag of fallacies.
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:06 PM
May 2015

It's amazing what the republican machine can spawn as something supposed to be sentient.

How to argue with such a mess of tripe? I've heard that wrestling with a pig just gets you muddy; trying to counter randy's rhetoric is like arguing with a 6 month old (no offense, please.)

I do know a lot of reasonably well-to-do, supposedly well-educated, perhaps good-looking, white and privileged men that feel like they have a god-given right to spew nonsense. It's really too bad when this stuff is also shown as representing the US around the world.

elleng

(130,712 posts)
3. Too bad that Bernie did NOT actually set paul straight,
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:28 PM
May 2015

by discussing the logical fallacy of what paul said.

Good that he provided opportunities for the providers to answer, but there is NO explicit or implicit promise or threat that providers will be forced, by officers of the law, immediately to provide service to those seeking medical assistance.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
5. I honestly did not know that
Fri May 22, 2015, 04:31 PM
May 2015

Rand Paul was intellectually challenged, or worse. He makes no sense!! Am eagerly awaiting Bernie Sanders buttons, bumper stickers and t shirts! Someone needs to be in charge of those whose heads are either in the clouds or up their butts, and Sanders is the guy to help them regain common sense! Good grief!!


 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
8. As a Physician you would have a generous salary. No one would "beat down your door with the Police".
Fri May 22, 2015, 05:33 PM
May 2015

Last edited Fri May 22, 2015, 07:08 PM - Edit history (1)

IDIOT. Societies that take care of the health of their Citizenry PROSPER!!!!

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
24. But they don't want the citizenry to prosper. They would actually
Sat May 23, 2015, 01:43 PM
May 2015

prefer to be big fish in a small pond, than medium-sized fish in medium-sized or even large ponds.

As Gore Vidal remarked: 'It's not enough to succeed. Others have to be seen to fail.' (not necessarily verbatim)

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
11. That's basic first year contract law.
Fri May 22, 2015, 06:36 PM
May 2015

Slavery is not a legal contract, first of all, as it is illegal. Secondly, physicians have contracts with hospitals and nobody is going to force a doctor to treat a patient except for the narrow exception of emergency care and maternity care in active labor in the emergency room.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
26. In this society, we are all slaves at some level...
Sat May 23, 2015, 02:27 PM
May 2015

Try not doing what is expected of you, then see what happens...

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
13. I think I now understand how they see "Rights" and Aid and the government helping the citizens.
Fri May 22, 2015, 07:05 PM
May 2015

He said it. For a person to have a right to something, they have to take it away from someone else. Sometimes by force. They do not have any empathy or a caring cell in their bodies.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
17. We, as taxpayers, pay Paul's salary as a Senator
Fri May 22, 2015, 08:03 PM
May 2015

... because the people of Texas have a right to representation in the Senate, and because we as a society believe that having a government is better than not having a government. By Paul's "logic," that must be slavery, too.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. Thanks for posting.
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:56 AM
May 2015

No one would expect a doctor to work without pay.

The idea of single payer medicine is that the doctor always gets paid because all of hisp or her patients have insurance and therefore the ability to pay.

Rand Paul is completely mistaken as to how single payer insurance works. The doctors in systems with single payer insurance are guaranteed to be paid for the patients they care for. That is the opposite of our current system in which doctors and hospitals must often treat a patient who is poor and has no insurance.

Rand Paul does not know what he is talking about even when he is supposedly talking about his own profession.

The point in single payer is to make sure that doctors can be paid. Of course, even with single payer insurance, doctors do not have to care for patients who for example do not follow their advice. Most of them try anyway. But as a patient in a country with single payer insurance, I was once fired by a doctor who gave me medicine that caused me serious side effects. He wanted me to take it anyway. I went to a different doctor and things worked out.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
22. Rand Paul is a moron
Sat May 23, 2015, 11:54 AM
May 2015

My only problem is that the video gives too much time to Rand Paul's blatherings. But I guess you do have to give him enough rope to hang himself.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
23. Rand Paul has a point
Sat May 23, 2015, 01:28 PM
May 2015

in Canada, the Mounties breaking into doctors' homes and forcing them to treat patients is a huge problem.

 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
29. From Sicko:
Sat May 23, 2015, 03:40 PM
May 2015


No; you will Awake to find a damned Healthy Society and your bus driver will have teeth
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