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Related: About this forumVincent Bugliosi - "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder"
RIP Vince:
http://news.yahoo.com/vincent-bugliosi-prosecutor-manson-trial-dies-80-054033690.html
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)And as soon as the people on that bus found out that I was an American, they started personally attacking me for my president and his terrible decision to go to war in Iraq. The only response I could give them was to protest, "He's not MY president, I never voted for the guy!" That was the only thing that kept me on that bus, the only thing that got me to Rishikesh.
I'm totally in agreement with Bugliosi on the necessity to prosecute George W Bush and his administration for murder. But sadly, I really don't think that it will happen.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)and some Americans were pretending to be Canadians to escape the hostility that was directed toward us because of that war.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)This nation is looking pretty bad on the world stage. I think we should elect Bernie this time.
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)As I remember, one of the big reasons for our going to war in Vietnam, as I remember it, was "the domino theory" - in other words, at the height of the Cold War, we feared that if one country in Southeast Asia fell to communism, then all the others, like dominoes, would also fall. Of course this reduced the Vietnamese to nothing more than pawns in an international chess game we were playing with the Evil Empire of Soviet Russia. But did we willingly and blatantly LIE about intelligence that we knew to be flat-out wrong when we went into Vietnam - and did we do such a grand snow job on the American public? And were our real motives so self-serving and cynical as getting the oil and saving Halliburton from bankruptcy? Back in those days, the national interest was still quite a bit above, and not totally beholden to, corporate special interests, as I remember...
But yeah - Bernie's the way to go! I don't know if he will go so far as to create a government Department of Peace, like Dennis Kucinich was proposing, but he's definitely of like heart and mind.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)in boot camp in one of those classes we took we were fed this kind of BS.
I graduated boot camp believing this stuff.
Nitram
(22,803 posts)The Vietnam War, like the Iraq War, was started under false pretenses (the Gulf of Tonkin "incident" , was conducted without consideration of the country's history and culture, and was doomed to fail from the beginning. Because you can win every military battle and still lose the war for the hearts and minds of the people.
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But, I think now and have always thought that Bugliosi was a horrible historian on the Kennedy assassination, even what was gleaned from the Tate/LaBianca murders.
Much better on George W. Bush, was he
. but not the historian he should have been.