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[EarlG]

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Fact-Checking Carly Fiorina’s Debate Statements on Planned Parenthood

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RUNNERS UP, from FactCheck.org:

• Donald Trump told a story linking vaccination to autism, but there's no evidence that recommended vaccines cause autism.

• Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said that Hillary Clinton was "under investigation by the FBI" because she "destroyed government records." Not true. She had the authority to delete personal emails.

• Trump said that "illegal immigration" cost "more than $200 billion a year." We couldn't find any support for that. Actually, it could cost taxpayers $137 billion or more to deport the 11 million immigrants in the country illegally, as Trump proposes.

• Trump again wrongly said that Mexico doesn't have a birthright citizenship policy like the United States. It does.

• Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said that U.S. policies to combat climate change would “do absolutely nothing.” The U.S. acting alone would have a small effect on rising temperatures and sea levels, and experts say U.S. leadership on the issue would prompt other nations to act.

BONUS

Jeb Bush said, "You know what? As it relates to my brother, there's one thing I know for sure. He kept us safe."



Pictured above: George W. Bush keeping us safe in 2001 and 2005.

[blm]

1. Spreading everywhere.

Thank you.

[shenmue]

24. Sigh

[hfojvt]

80. just posted by one of my FB friends

but can the apostrophes be corrected?

"it's heart beating, it's legs kicking"

since it is not a written quote, she did not make that mistake.

should be 'its'

[blm]

81. ; )

definitely should…..I hate when OUR side has grammar misses.

[Johonny]

2. Didn't Fiorina fail the big test to be president

As president you are going to be bombarded with information. Much of the information is of low value (or false). It will be presented by people that have an agenda. They want you to do something based on that weak information. Actions based on weak information typically have bad results for America. A weak president (say like W) will easily be strayed into something really dumb (like the Iraq) war by people like Cheney based on false information. Here's Fiorina basically making the Iraq war mistake with planned parenthood. There is no evidence of wrong doing by PP. All the evidence is doctored BS created by delusional people that want PP closed no matter the facts. She could choose to ignore the mythical tapes like Clinton or Obama. But instead like Cheney and Bush she uses them and gets suckered in hook, line, and sinker. America doesn't need another sucker as president. It doesn't need another person that buys "facts" when they fit an agenda. I don't want a repeat of the horrible Bush years. Enough people have been hurt by this weak mentality of being able to govern based on the best available data and not based on shit that feels good at the time and fits my BS agenda. We don't need a repeat of the closing of ACORN that you very much. She's a loser and she failed the biggest test to be president. If she ever became president she'd blow in the wind by all the "facts" the generals, foreign leaders, and RW activists would feed her. She's a rube. Always has been. It's this kind of thinking that destroyed HP.

[onecaliberal]

5. California wouldn't hire her to be shit watcher, let alone anything else...

Let that be a lesson to the country. The women is a craven liar. She will say anything if she thinks it will get her what she wants.

[rladdi]

23. Why does the Republicans think they have to LIE about their lives and careers?

Carly is a perfect example of a fraud, failed CEO. And she took home $100 million when she got fired from HP. She sent 30,000 jobs to China. She never talks about those facts.

[onecaliberal]

38. She says it wasn't her fault.

That company was in great shape when she took the helm. She made such a mess of it with the purchase of Compaq, they have never recovered. They just announced another 20,000 layoffs.

[suegeo]

53. I thought it was another 30,000

http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/technology/ct-hewlett-packard-hp-layoffs-20150915-story.html

"Hewlett-Packard Co. is preparing to shed up to another 30,000 jobs as the Silicon Valley pioneer launches into a new era in the same cost-cutting mode that has marred much of its recent history."

I guess it says "up to" so maybe they will show mercy and only layoff 20K. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Not.

[onecaliberal]

55. It's devastating in this state.

We're really divided between those who have everything and those who have nothing. You lose a job like that, it's slim Pickens. Very little chance you'll get anything comparable.

[wordpix]

67. my HP Pro 2011 needed the hard drive replaced after 1 yr. + 5 days

I was so pissed. Well I will say it's performed well since I got a new HD. But HP was impossible to deal with. I wrote about how much I had to pay Geek Squad to get the files and fix everything with the new HD installed and asked for a contribution. They would not give me one straight answer. It was almost comical how many times I was switched to various people who just talked in circles. I finally gave up. But I'll never buy another with the poor system they have in more ways than one.

[DAMANgoldberg]

82. Other than purchasing a commodity business...

in the form of Compaq, she also tried to end 60+ years at the time of company heritage, practices, and so on, because the company felt that it try to be IBM and CEO Lew Platt knew better and didn't budge on some activist shareholders demands. There has not been a CEO steeped in the HP Way since Mr. Platt. Ms. Whitman is a decent manager, but it should have never gotten to that point, and HP is still not IBM, the services part of the split is ultimately doomed to failure, because they won't have the bellcow cash flow of the printer business that allows HP to branch out, since they got rid of their R&D labs during the Fiorina mess.

[onecaliberal]

84. She is NOT a decent manager, and in fact they sang, Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead, the day she left.

Good managers don't act the way she did. Her lack of leadership and managerial skills led to very low morale at HP when she took over.

[DAMANgoldberg]

85. I got the impression...

that during the early days of eBay, it was probably difficult to screw it up in the formative years, and she didn't. I could be wrong. HP won't recover unless the second coming of Bill Hewlett occurs. Anything less would probably not work.

[66 dmhlt]

49. If Fiorina REALLY wants to destroy Planned Parenthood - she'd become its CEO!

[onecaliberal]

76. Bingo!

[renate]

12. what you said is very true and very important n/t

[SoapBox]

3. Where the hell did she get this shit from?

Prove it, Ms. Stinkorina!

[Thav]

6. It's sensational and emotional

And by saying it, it's now Truth(tm). She now put it in the video - it's the Liburl Meedea that removed it and it's a left-wing conspiracy to keep that out of the video!

[Enthusiast]

13. Ms. Stinkorina..........................

[wordpix]

69. I like it!

[wordpix]

70. there's also Ms. Failorina

[DhhD]

41. I wrote this in another thread also. Sometimes an early mid-term fetus will drop through a

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dysfunctional cervix. This is a hospital matter. The mother will decide to bury the fetus or allow the county to bury the fetus. County Coroner's officers have nothing to do with Planned Parenthood. That lying bitch hurt many women who have gone through this in order to make herself look like she cares about children.

[wordpix]

68. Cruella says it was a "fully formed fetus," insinuating a baby

She earns the name Cruella Carly

[erronis]

4. Isn't that Ann Coulter with a different die job?

Something about getting old and long in the nose/teeth.

[JackInGreen]

7. Can we PLEASE be allowed to call this woman

Any name we want without getting banned after this?

[Enthusiast]

14. Pffft!

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[stage left]

8. K&R

They're all liars, not just Fiorina. They are all ugly; it's their minds and souls that make them so. They would, any of them, say and do anything at all on the off chance of getting elected to any office, even dogcatcher. And they're not even qualified for that one.

[yuiyoshida]

9. K&R Tweeted

Yes indeed

[malthaussen]

10. Well, her lips were moving, weren't they?

Quod erat demonstrandum.

-- Mal

[kacekwl]

11. Doesn't matter

it's all out there now and those who don't care to know truth suck it all in. Might as well be true at this point. You won't see these fact checkers on cable news or your nightly local news. Since there is no easy access to a liberal news show anymore , oh well.

[hibbing]

15. He kept us safe

Jeb got his panties all in a bunch when he was trying to defend his idiot brother's war of choice. Of course none of the others pointed out that the attacks took place during his presidency. I shouldn't be shocked anymore by the blatant lies, but that was a whopper for sure.

Peace

[DirkGently]

16. Fiorina: All the narcissistic, baseless self-assurance of Trump

... PLUS all the mythological thinking of Huckabee!

NOW AT A SPECIAL REDUCED PRICE!


And Bush kept us safe, eh? Please show your work, Jeb.

[wordpix]

71. show your work AND cite your sources

sources: Poppy, Bro George, Pickles, Chain-ee, Rummy et. al and documents proving Saddam Hussein had WMD

[trusty elf]

17. Anagram for "Carly Fiorina"

I flay carrion

[gregcrawford]

19. YUCK!

GOOD one!

[DinahMoeHum]

27. Makes me wish we still had SPY Magazine.

Always some good anagrams in each issue.

[niyad]

51. good one. yucky, but good.

[Marie Marie]

18. Love the fact that this woman's

eyes were afire with righteous indignation as she spewed this bullshit and then, when she finished, she had this self-satisfied smug look on her face like she had won some imaginary battle going on in her pointed little head. She DARED (stopping short of double dog daring) Clinton & Sanders to WATCH THIS HORROR. Carly, they suffered enough, they watched you and the other blowhards for 3 hours (well, I think Bernie admitted bowing out at 2 hr 30 min). Your tiny bump will be as short lived as your career successes.

[PatSeg]

25. Her indignation and outrage

were very convincing. Either she is a master bullshitter or she is delusional enough to think she saw the video. Unfortunately that performance undoubtedly convinced a lot of vulnerable people who won't bother to factcheck her.

I never cared much for her, but after that debate I really can't stand her.

[wordpix]

57. one pundit said the vid was from a RWnut group

and the vid was put up while the voiceover was from the PPH video in which staffer was discussing cost of obtaining fetal tissue.

[Helen Borg]

20. If she really believed that then...

She meets the threshold to be diagnosed as psychotic.

[C Moon]

21. +1000

[ejbr]

22. And our side

Better not call it an "untruth" but a "lie".

[PatSeg]

26. Yes

Why do politicians and commentators always use euphemisms instead of saying "lie", "liar", "lying", etc. It wasn't an "untruth", it was a "LIE". She wasn't "mistaken", she is a "liar". She wasn't "inaccurate", she frigging "lied".

[ejbr]

33. +1 n/t

[senz]

39. Some moderated comment sections don't allow "lie" and "liar."

Some of us learned self-censorship and are still amazed that we can finally speak openly on this site.

[PatSeg]

43. And there are times when

"lie" or "liar" can be too strong. Sometimes people are uninformed or mistaken. There are other times like this one, when an intelligent person is very specific and adamant, where all you can think is they are lying.

[CrispyQ]

28. I wonder how many abortions PP has actually prevented by providing education, birth control

& family planning to both women & men?

The zealots are out of control & emboldened by a media that amplifies their crazy voices - the ones in their heads. I tell you, I wish that fucking rapture thing would happen & all the zealots would be sucked off the planet.

[LongTomH]

29. OK, if you needed something to get your ass off the couch and work for Bernie Sanders......

........think of 8 years with this Harpy from Hell representing us to the world!

Third World, Hell, we'll be Fourth World Dumbfuckistan when she gets through!!!!!

[d_legendary1]

30. So in theory she won the debate

Biggest liar of them all!

[Ccarmona]

31. To Paraphrase

When you lose Politico....

[Initech]

32. Harvesting brains? Really? Do they have to go there?

The only person on earth that's currently harvesting brains is that weird Italian scientist who's performing the first human head transplant.

[MADem]

34. They scratch and claw, and fricken KASICH ends up looking like the adult in the room.

He's in 2nd place in some NH polls, and no one is looking out for him.

I hope someone is doing a little oppo on the guy.

[usaf-vet]

63. Well here is a little nugget: Kasich was the CEO of Lehman Brothers in 2008

CEO when they declared bankruptcy that started the crash of the US markets quickly followed by the international markets. He walk away with $600,000 while 1000s lost billions in their 401k and other stock market investments.

Additional nugget: Jeb Bush was on the board of Lehman's when it crashed. He walked away with $1.6 million and a seat on the board of what was left of Lehman's

[MADem]

65. See, all that will come out after the first singing of "Getting to Know You."

For now, though, he will come off looking like the best

....of a bad lot!!!!

[wordpix]

72. Holy shite, that is some info. Links?

But he walked away with only $600K? That's peanuts to most CEOs, even in 2008.

My take on Kasich in the early getting to know you stage is he's an angry man and stay away. He wants to show strength and presidential-ness by being forceful, which comes out as anger.

Maybe he's angry b/c he could only walk way with $600K due to the international financial debacle he helped create.

[wordpix]

74. what are the vital stats, in summary?

[MADem]

77. He's a strong number 2 in NH and moving up in IA. He's a threat. nt

[SwissTony]

35. Have the police acted on this information?

if this were true, the police should be all over it.

Not reporting this to the police must put her in deep shit.

Care to change your tune, Carly?

[NonMetro]

42. Exactly!

How come those who made that video aren't in jail already?

[underpants]

36. Carly wasn't ready for prime time

She should've stayed at the kiddie table

[senz]

37. That detailed fabrication should preclude any chance of winning the presidency or vice-presidency.

This was no mistake on her part; it is a whopper, it is fully detailed and premeditated, and she knew it would evoke outrage on the part of anyone hearing it. It is as irresponsibly inflammatory as anything Rush Limbaugh has said.

This speaks to Carly Fiorina's character, loud and clear. She should not be trusted with any public office.

Please, everyone, spread this as far as you can, any way you can. Let's stop this mistake from entering our political system.

[DhhD]

40. The main reason that, Other Than Mexican, immigrants, want to exit Mexico quickly is that

Mexico has an extremely difficult immigration policy; much harder than the one we have. GW Bush set up the OTM child immigration policy that we have now.

[JohnnyRingo]

44. K&R

Nice collection.

[polynomial]

45. The GOP conjures a new poll front runner;

don’t think so

It can be seen those podiums the candidates stand behind during the debate have a similarity to jail bars. Seems appropriate, don’t you think.

Or, that jail bar podium designed to keep something out, the Fiorina poltergeist, paranormal vision of modern medicine is now open for debate the medical body part business.

Of course run the country like a business, GOP business profiteering at its finest hour.

[akbacchus_BC]

46. Not only that, she had the nerve to question Mrs. Clinton being dishonest

and she went on a debate lying about Planned Parenthood. And to add insult to injury, this woman Carly is against womens rights, to go against Planned Parenthood and to deny women extended maternity leave. Gosh, the GOP is for sure, pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, even if it kills you.

[Bradical79]

47. It's no joke

It's not a laughing matter that one political party has been completely taken over by these lying scumbags, but while my mother was in the waiting area of the hospital emergency room everyone thought the tv was on Comedy Central for a short time. She tells me the laughter turned to shocked silence after someone realized this wasn't sketch comedy parody and pointed out the mistake.

[wordpix]

58. yes I was thinking, "I wonder what SNL will do with this?"

[Fred Sanders]

48. Falling hook, line and sinker for lies spliced into propaganda videos...to make a major decision?

President Gullible is not needed! We had that 15 years ago and look what happened.

[niyad]

50. no, carly, you lying pos. SHOW us that video.

[Geronimoe]

52. No surprise

She was a CEO, just makes up lies to make money. Prior to Carly, HP had a reputation of selling cutting edge products that always worked. During her reign as CEO and after, their reputation turned into selling defective products and not standing behind them.

I'm surprised she didn't say she saw liberals eating fetus's brains and organs.

[tooeyeten]

54. She's in the race

To go after Hillary, end of story.

[Geronimoe]

60. True

But Carly will figure she is most qualified and will try to win.

While working on McCain campaign she got fired because she said McCain was not qualified to be CEO in a major corporation.

[tooeyeten]

62. Not a chance

For her to be GOP nominee, especially as she showed she's going after the crazy evangelical voter, didnt work for Romney either. She won't make it out of the gate, not even as a VP. Ok maybe that like last time repeating the Ryan candidacy.

[wordpix]

56. during the debate I thought she was pretty good until that Crazy Cruella statement

by "pretty good," I mean compared to the other clowns up there.

Glad the media got on it to expose her lies.

On to Trump's. I do believe he approached ! about FL casinos when ! was gov

[tomm2thumbs]

59. Poor Carly

[Ken Burch]

61. "harvest its BRAIN"?

I still can't believe nobody there, including the two doctors standing next to here, called her out on how stupid that sounded.

[wordpix]

73. I was just shocked at what she said, with the flailing baby

in distress getting its brain sucked out image. Call me stupid, but I didn't question that the brain is harvested. Maybe the fetal tissue contains something important to scientific studies on brain stem cells. I'm not a doctor, and medical sciences are expanding. It seems plausible. If not, why not?

[Ken Burch]

75. I guess i was thinking that iCarly believes brain transplants are a thing.

The brain-sucking imagery may also be borrowed from the "partial-birth abortion" freakouts they were doing a couple of years ago.

[wordpix]

78. "brain transplants" lol - well maybe she believes in them

she's proven with her comment she believes lots of stupid shit

[patsimp]

64. More repuglican lies?

first they think bush kept us safe while 911 and New Orleans happened under his watch.

Now Fiorina lies or makes stuff up about Planned Parenthood.

Like an invisible Obama, these republicans make up everything.

[rladdi]

66. The Republicans run on all lies, but the sad issue is that all the incompetent voters believe their

lies. The Tea Party survives on LIES. Just listen to those female Tea Party members that get on cable news. No wonder we have female ISIS in America, The Tea Party is ISIS

[wordpix]

79. due to very poor education in the South - no wonder they don't want Common Core

down there. That might get the kids to think critically and grow up with critical thinking skills. But no. They're going all rapture there.

[Jeb Bartlet]

83. And another moment of

Not meant to be a factual statement from the party of "making up stupid shit because my constituents aren't smart enough to know the difference".

[DallasNE]

86. Add To The Runner-up List -- Carly Fiorino

For this whopper on marijuana.

She deceptively said her husband and her lost a daughter to drug abuse then launched into a tirade on marijuana. Yes, her 35 year old step-daughter, with mental health issues died from a combination of an eating disorder, alcohol and prescription drugs. More on this whopper right here -- http://marijuanapolitics.com/carly-fiorina-marijuana-did-not-kill-your-step-daughter/