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I actually like the pope but I like these people too.
They are reminding us that women have a right to control their own bodies and forced pregnancy is female enslavement. We can recognize Pope Francis is taking the church in a good direction while still pointing out this serious problem.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Doesn't make much sense to protest. Don't like the religion--leave it. Or go get your abortion and don't tell the priest. Whatever.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)for centuries. Victims included the Albigenians, the Cathars, Jews, Protestants and still the Catholic Church does not respect the rights of women even Catholic women.
These young women have a point.
The Catholic Church can be a force for good. This is particularly true when, as Pope Francis has done, the Church stands up for social justice and the health of the environment. But on issues concerning women, the Church is brutally backward.
When will Catholic women be allowed to become priests? When will the Vatican acknowledge that Pope Francis' stances on the environment, especially endangered species are incompatible with the Church's stances on birth control and abortion?
I applaud most of what Pope Francis is standing up for, but as a woman, I think he should listen to these young women. The Catholic Church is responsible for many deaths. Opposing the use of condoms is a particularly evil policy. It has cost many lives.
progree
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http://news.yahoo.com/pope-visits-u-nuns-involved-obamacare-contraception-lawsuit-021905130.html
Pope Francis on Wednesday made an unscheduled stop to a convent of nuns to show his support for their lawsuit against U.S. President Barack Obama's healthcare law.
Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said the visit to the convent of the Little Sisters of the Poor for what he called a "brief but symbolic visit."
Last August, a federal appeals court in Denver put on hold its ruling that the order of Roman Catholic nuns must comply with a contraception mandate in the law, giving the group time to petition the U.S. Supreme Court.
.. The Sisters argued that the law forces them to provide insurance coverage for their employees to support contraception and sterilization services in violation of their religious beliefs, or face steep fines.
(the Sisters don't have to pay for the insurance, all they have to do is notify the federal government that they are opting out of the requirement, and then a 3rd party or their insurer pays for it. But the Sisters argue that even providing an opt-out notification makes them complicit in providing sterilization and contraceptive coverage)
If the lawsuit succeeds, female employees of these religious organizations will be forced to pay the full bill for their contraception. Or to abstain from (regular PIV) sex, given that the "natural" methods the Catholic Church approves of (or begrudgingly accepts) have a lousy track record in preventing pregnancy.