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(41,829 posts)THANK (kami-sama) god.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)I wanted to highlight just how rightwing the media has led some of us.
Compared to today Reagan would be a moderate.
yuiyoshida
(41,829 posts)can equally go the other way. I don't care for What Reagan did for this country. He has set us to right where we are now with many of his policies. This is why we are now in the state we are in, in so many ways.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)Note how little corporations pay in tax to support our country (payroll taxes come out of our pockets):
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Then there is this gem from 1956:
bulloney
(4,113 posts)That's how much the politics have shifted in this country in the last 35 years or so.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Next I expect Clintonistas will use this to accuse Bernie of being a "closet Reagan Republican",
just like when they berate Bernie if he says something a Rand Paul Libertarian might agree with.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)we have had 12 years of Bush Family presidencies, 8 years of a Clinton presidency and about six and one-half years of an Obama presidency.
When Reagan became president, we got a slight majority of Democrats in the House and the first Republican majority in the Senate for 28 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_1980
After all those presidencies, Republican and Democratic, neither our presidents nor our congresses have done a thing about the tax avoidance of the corporations, our gun culture and laws or much of anything else that matters. Social Security is still solvent and paid for by the payroll tax, and the Conservatives are still claiming it is bankrupt and needs "fixing." The cap has not been raised. The rich do not pay their fair share of taxes.
We have elected one right-wing or mainstream politician to the White House after the other, and we still have the same problems now in 2015 that we had in 1980.
Let's do something different.
Let's elect Bernie Sanders and see whether he can roll some heads in Congrress, throw some light on the corruption and get something done.
We need some progress. We tried two Bushes.
Now some Democrats want us to try our Second Clinton. The first Clinton did not improve the record of corporations on paying taxes, put the country at ease with regard to Social Security (raising the cap anyone?) or change our violent gun culture.
What makes anyone think that yet another Clinton is going to deal with any of these issues if the first one couldn't?
Let's give Bernie Sanders a chance.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The excerpts of Reagan re: how the SS Trust should have been treated in Congress points to how his post-presidency corrupted it by stealing what by law should have been in the "lock box" as Gore described it.
The issues are what people miss. Here's two good views about the issues. I appreciate you targeting the ISSUES, cause too many here would mistakenly think that Reagan was all about being true to the very issues that drew him that fantastic recognitions by the ReTHUGS.
These people eat their own, don't they?
OTOH, Sanders marches right into those same issues and reminds this clueless Congress of WHAT has happened since Reagan. Again.... let's bring these issues to the forefront!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I do not want another Ronald Reagan as president.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)Even said he admired them.
My Dog, have we jumped the shark, or what?!
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)When they make Reagan look liberal.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Back then too.As it turned out like any other Republican, Reagan lied and gave us the trickle down economy and Bernie Sanders has talked about that many times and that being the beginning of the end of the middle class.