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It is time that the Democratic Party remembers that this race is not over yet, and that what they may think is hurting Bernie is really hurting the party as a whole. It's just not good politics.
From Ring of Fire.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)there's this third guy running who gets no respect at all.
Now, if I was running the party doings and I saw one person who had almost all of the superdelegates lined up and looked at the other side as off the rails, why would I want to mess things up on our side?
Democracy comes in second to winning.
elleng
(130,908 posts)Response to elleng (Reply #2)
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Wilms
(26,795 posts)That's what people who rig elections say.
You, TB, know better than that!
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)or that it is in any way right or proper.
But, it is what it is.
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)So for having a debate on a Saturday right before a major holiday------------is not only disingenuous but hypocritical , she was given the opportunity to increase the deabte, and this party is getting the its clocks cleaned when it comes to getting a message out there--------------------
Honk--------------------------for a political revolution it is about getting a progressive U.S. Supreme Court and the Congress
Bernie
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)When I see her and anticipate her delivering some of her famously dismissive verbal discharge, I feel an involuntary vomit coming on. There could not BE a more self-absorbed mistake of a pilot at the helm than DWS.
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)Pilot, x-mas would be Done with
Baitball Blogger
(46,711 posts)to show she has competition.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)But by that I mean that I am devoted to the progressive FDR principles that used to govern the Democratic Party. Corporatism is completely contrary to our platform. Vote Bernie.
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)The more Hillary is exposed to The Public, the less they like her.
Hiding Hillary until after the Primary is a good strategy with a candidate that few like or trust.
Good for Hillary and HER campaign,
but BAD for America, BAD for Working People, BAD for The Poor, BAD for the Americans who want to end these stupid WARS, BAD for Americans that want economic justice, BAD for people who believe WAR CRIMINALS belong in jail, and BAD for old time FDR Democrats who are disgusted by the Democratic Party morphing into the Republican Party of the 80s.
randys1
(16,286 posts)jalan48
(13,865 posts)Even if Hillary wins does the Democratic establishment think that millions of Progressives are just going to go away? If she does win she's in for a bumpy ride.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)it's just begging for a backlash and even Clintonistas are saying this is leaving a very bad taste--all this effort and political capital burned to make sure everyone can keep on pretending there's no primary campaign at all
jalan48
(13,865 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Nixon-levels of power and enough voters and footsoldiers used to holding their nose and pulling the lever every 2 years, for all that they grouse online (case in point, Rahm Emanuel)
they have no reason to change unless forced to, especially with Trump bounding in and setting torch to the RNC's well-managed "money primary": Saban doesn't want to end up like Adelson, dumping millions on candidates only to have them defeated by some new new rich paying his own way
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)or just plain stupid.
The DNC is running a corrupt and rigged game. It's the only way the right wing (even the right wing of the democratic party) can win.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Want to hide her away, so that there is as little exposure as possible.
The more Americans see and hear of her, the more angry it makes them.
And gawd forbid that people hear Bernie's common sense and mainstream message...gotta keep that hidden too! A lump of coal for DWS!
But, the Berners and Sanderstorm cannot be shut down...it's growing and growing and growing.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Within minutes of real time ... and can be watched at the viewer's pleasure and convenience?
randys1
(16,286 posts)a rightwing talking point that shouldnt be allowed on DU, an attack of Hillary, so I dont know what to do.
What is an ACTUAL liberal Democrat to do, where to go?
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)snot
(10,529 posts)where's the coverage for the debate that's 2 days away???
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)of justifying it, and identifying themselsves as supporters of it in the process?
Those type are largely Hillary supporters, who'd prefer she be entirely unopposed and primed for coronation by now.
cprise
(8,445 posts)K&R
iandhr
(6,852 posts)The less they cover the GOP. When the GOP candidates get on stage it shows that not one of them is fit to be the commander in chief.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)but is there actual evidence that they are "burying" the debates? If Bernie is so great and wonderful, he should be able to win IN SPITE OF having thousands of debates, shouldn't he? There are only 3 candidates left in the Democratic primary with only two of them being actual contenders in the race. There is just no comparing the much milder Democratic Primary to the Republican one- with all of the crazies trying to out-crazy one another, which, unfortunately, tends to attract lots more media attention.
think
(11,641 posts)Between Christmas parties and people watching the ball games this debate will suck for viewership.
Sometimes the obvious answer is what it is and not a conspiracy theory....
liam_laddie
(1,321 posts)The D ruling clique just doesn't want an independent, principled, sensible Democratic candidate,
who prefers to be an honest "socialist," and who recognizes that it's really NOT a dirty word.
Deliver us from Debbie W. Schultz and her puppeteers. Sorry, Hill...but you ain't the "it" girl.
I say "GO BERNIE!"...but let's take another look at your unqualified support of Israel.
Deliver us from all the Ridiots behind those ridiculous debates, and poor Jeb!'s embarrassments.
And jaysus, limit the campaign period to no more than three months! AND overturn Citizens United!
And repair the gerrymandering which has so distorted the Congress. Make the Scalia-Thomas tag
team just go away. These are my Christmas wishes.
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)Maybe that explains why DWS is trying to bury the debates - to shut this outsider out of the game. But ironically, Bernie speaks right to the traditional heart and soul of the party. Ironic that an independent and outsider such as Bernie should be so close to the traditional heart and soul of the Democratic party, the FDR progressives, instead of these corporatist usurpers like the Clintonistas.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)Because she called for more debates.
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