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Cops taze, pepper spray, manhandle stroke victim (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 OP
I know down to my bones gwheezie Dec 2015 #1
Not totally different. Downwinder Dec 2015 #6
I can't bring myself to watch it ThingsGottaChange Dec 2015 #2
Here's a link to the Daily Mail article cited in the YouTube video at the YouTube website progree Dec 2015 #3
They allowed the car to roll over the poor man's foot. MADem Dec 2015 #4
SOB was awfully fast with that pepper spray Warpy Dec 2015 #5
So this poor guy has a stroke and these assholes do this? blackspade Dec 2015 #15
This is just inhuman behavior. brush Dec 2015 #7
The threatening to "smoke you" says it all...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #9
They are racist. Period. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #10
I remember this from before. The cops are so bad as to be an embarrassment to police everywhere.. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #8
Remember that in some places especially the South RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #11
Yep, Ask Sandra Bland.... blackspade Dec 2015 #16
So, let me get this straight... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #12
sick fucking pigs SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #13
There was absolutely no reason to taze or pepper spray this man. blackspade Dec 2015 #14

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
1. I know down to my bones
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:38 AM
Dec 2015

If this was a middle aged white woman, the cops would have behaved completely opposite.

ThingsGottaChange

(1,200 posts)
2. I can't bring myself to watch it
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:01 AM
Dec 2015

This is so fucking out of control. And it keeps happening over and over again. I am so disgusted with the cops and their 'open season on blacks' that I can't even see straight. What the fuck is happening in this country?????

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. They allowed the car to roll over the poor man's foot.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:11 AM
Dec 2015

This happened back in May. The excessive force cop resigned, probably to avoid being fired.


Published on May 23, 2015
A police officer in Fredericksburg, Virginia, used a Taser and pepper spray May 4 on a man believed to have earlier suffered a stroke.

A Hyundai drove over a median, hit a sign, then hit a Jeep that day, police there told WTVR. The Hyundai was followed by the Jeep to an intersection where police showed up, authorities said.

Three separate videos have been released, showing body camera footage from Cpl. Matt Deschenes, Sgt. Crystal Hill, and Officer Shaun Jurgens in the incident involving Hyundai driver David Washington.

Jurgens resigned from his post May 14, according to reports.


Capt. Rick Pennock said in a statement 'The use of force demonstrated in the incident involving Mr. Washington was not in compliance with department policy or training.
'We take matters such as these very seriously and require that officers at all times exercise appropriate restraint and good judgment in their dealings with citizens.'

The footage shows Hill and Deschenes are the first to arrive.
They point their guns at Washington and yell at him to get out of the car. Washington fails to do so.
Video shows Jurgens arrives with his gun out and aimed at Washington. He later takes out his Taser, and uses it on Washington.

An officer is heard saying he doesn't believe the Taser made the connection with the driver. Jurgens then pepper sprays Washington in the face.
Washington is dragged out of the car, and officers soon handcuff him.
'I can't breathe,' Washington says in the footage.

Washington tells officers 'I've been sick for a week' but he 'doesn't know' what it is.
Jurgens says 'Alright man, I got you. Just relax,' and has Washington lean against him while Washington sits on the ground.
Washington says he hasn't been drinking when he is questioned by police over beer they find in the Hyundai.
Washington suffered a massive stroke, sources told the Fredericksburg Freelance-Star.

According to WTVR, police cannot under department policy Taser those 'who are passively resisting' nor those who'are in physical control of a vehicle in motion.'
In a statement issued to the Fredericksburg Freelance-Star, Jurgens said 'I believed that immediate action needed to be taken due to several factors in the current circumstances.'
Jurgens said Deschenes had no cover and that Washington moved around in the Hyundai, leading him to think there could be a weapon.
Jurgens said he was afraid because the incident took place on a road with rush hour traffic, and because the incident took place in an elementary school zone.

Jurgens stated he 'believed that the suspect was under the influence of mind-altering substances and was thus more prone to irrational behavior.'
Washington, according to WTOP, is recovering and now out of the hospital.
According to reports, Washington is facing property damage, hit-and-run, driving on a revoked or suspended license, and reckless driving charges.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...

Warpy

(111,135 posts)
5. SOB was awfully fast with that pepper spray
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:56 AM
Dec 2015

Poor bastard wasn't resisting, he wasn't jumping when they barked because he couldn't.

I know common sense is too much to expect from people who have been taught they're an occupying army and we're the enemy, but you'd think a basic first aid course might have been part of their training.

I guess the 1% thought stuff like that was useless frills.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
15. So this poor guy has a stroke and these assholes do this?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:42 PM
Dec 2015
"Washington is facing property damage, hit-and-run, driving on a revoked or suspended license, and reckless driving charges. "


The poor man had a stroke for fuck sake. I can understand the property damage and the license but the rest? Bullshit.

brush

(53,740 posts)
7. This is just inhuman behavior.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:04 AM
Dec 2015

What is it with cops when they deal with a black man. They seem to lose all humanity and behave like animals. Just shameful.

Then they are hardly ever indicted or allowed to just resign with no punishment at all.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
11. Remember that in some places especially the South
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:54 AM
Dec 2015

It is quite hazardous to be caught driving while black!

Someone needs to put a lid on this shit already!

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
12. So, let me get this straight...
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:40 AM
Dec 2015

If I have to abruptly stop my car, as I am having either a cerebral vascular attack, or let's say, an acute asthma attack so that I cannot speak....

If I'm immobile and the cops arrive when I can't verbalize my situation fast enough, then I should expect pepper spray in my face, then some cop dragging me out under the car, then expect to hear freaked out panic when one of the cops has a realization moment that the car has almost rolled over my foot...

Then, all of this, after hearing someone threaten to fucking "smoke" me, then taser me with less than absolute accuracy, tell me they "HAD " to do that, cause I wasn't answering fast enough as I almost fucking die from the pepper spray (if I was having an asthma attack).... and act all concerned and that...

Then, I should accept this as standard operating procedure?

OH - WAIT... That's not gonna happen... Because, I'm a 62 year old white woman..... Hey, NEVER FUCKING MIND!



WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS FUCKING COUNTRY AFTER POLICE CAMS? THE SAME FUCKING THING THAT WAS WRONG BEFORE THEM!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. There was absolutely no reason to taze or pepper spray this man.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:36 PM
Dec 2015

Lack of response should have been an indicator that there was something wrong.
Fucking idiots.

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