Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:12 AM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

A "History Making Event" in past several hours, broadcast directly from a computer screen ... LOL

... broadcast as quickly as possible ....

"you guys" ... first time ever in history of the United States of America ... someone drives into an FBI compound.

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A "History Making Event" in past several hours, broadcast directly from a computer screen ... LOL (Original post)	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	OP
Too long, didn't watch,	passiveporcupine	Jan 2016	#1
The first premise, "Welcome to the center of the universe at the most important time ever"	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#2
I need field notes. What is being negotiated here?	flamingdem	Jan 2016	#3
Without having to even watch the video	99th_Monkey	Jan 2016	#4
Attention.	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#6
Pretty sure camping overnight in the administration buildings	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#7
Yes, there will be charges brought. Authorities have said so.	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#8
Agree.	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#9
I hope that you are right and the federal government brings serious charges against them,	Cassidy	Jan 2016	#24
They can under RICO....	reACTIONary	Jan 2016	#37
I'll bet they had not thought of that angle.	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#38
Snacks.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#19
DUZY	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#30
I dozed off at about the 6 minute mark.	bearssoapbox	Jan 2016	#5
Does he ever get to the part where I start caring?	WhoIsNumberNone	Jan 2016	#10
The guy in the background who kept clamering about how historic the metting was?? WTF?	Quixote1818	Jan 2016	#11
They are chalking this up as a victory.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#20
The video says they are 3%ers and Bundy sent them packing	Quixote1818	Jan 2016	#22
That pretty much sums it up. These guys didn't read "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" and don't know	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#28
I expect the KKK to show up next.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#33
Guessing that GoPros with trucker cap mounts are being air lifted to them as we speak.	Freelancer	Jan 2016	#12
Aw, how nice. They bonded and shook hands.	PADemD	Jan 2016	#13
I love history.	rusty quoin	Jan 2016	#14
Murica, where freedom is crossing state lines in a heavily-armed militia caravan to provide security	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#15
Bubbles are a big force today, without foundations in reality.	rusty quoin	Jan 2016	#16
They actually drove up and talked to real FBI guys and didn't crap themselves.....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#18
DUZY.	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#31
I was half expecting them to swap brownie recipes....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2016	#17
This is the group Bundy told to leave so nothing worthwhile occured here in the least	Quixote1818	Jan 2016	#21
There must be TWO embedded reporters, because here's the encounter from a different angle.	TrollBuster9090	Jan 2016	#23
They knew they were coming, whole County was watching, militarily-armed caravan, a dozen vehicles,	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#29
Bundy has no authority	Geronimoe	Jan 2016	#25
Without the FBI logo, it would be hard to tell them apart	pediatricmedic	Jan 2016	#26
Not every applicant is accepted!	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#27
And what is going on here?	rickford66	Jan 2016	#32
Campaign 2016 wage the dog media carnival hosted by #BundyBunch pretending to be sagebrush rebels	L. Coyote	Jan 2016	#34
They have started	libodem	Jan 2016	#35
kick	libodem	Jan 2016	#36

Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:27 AM

passiveporcupine (8,175 posts)

1. Too long, didn't watch,

but these guys are idiots. And every day the keep proving it.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:30 AM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

2. The first premise, "Welcome to the center of the universe at the most important time ever"

seems a tad overstated ....

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:34 AM

flamingdem (39,202 posts)

3. I need field notes. What is being negotiated here?

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:45 AM

99th_Monkey (19,326 posts)

4. Without having to even watch the video

I'm guessing the armed interlopers want:
1) all these armed criminals to be able to walk free from any prosecution whatsoever for their crimes, if
they brandish enough weaponry to make their point,
and
2) for the Federal guv-mint to gift the Hammonds all the Federal game preserve they want to claim as
their own, for free.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:02 AM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

6. Attention.

That's pretty much all I've seen so far, people acting out, doing street theater for attention. If you have spotted a crime you can pin on a specific person, let me know. Did you see a No Camping sign anywhere? If not, they have two weeks before you can make them camp at their next spot.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:18 AM

cheapdate (3,811 posts)

7. Pretty sure camping overnight in the administration buildings

without authorization is not allowed, nor is misusing park resources, defacing park property, etc. Some have set up armed checkpoints on public roadways. Others have made explicit public threats to shoot to kill public officials if they move to remove them from these public facilities.

If I were to "occupy" one of my favorite buildings in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, or refused to abide by the park rules for overnight stays, I would without any doubt be confronted by park rangers and be made to comply or face arrest on any number of charges. Never mind if I took up residency in the park admin building with a rifle and explicitly threatened to shoot to kill any public official who tried to dislodge me.

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Response to cheapdate (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:24 AM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

8. Yes, there will be charges brought. Authorities have said so.

And, no doubt, the US Attorney is involved and the case is being built. The Feds have to weigh individual cases and evidence, they can't indict a group.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:30 AM

cheapdate (3,811 posts)

9. Agree.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 08:09 AM

Cassidy (193 posts)

24. I hope that you are right and the federal government brings serious charges against them,

but I won't believe it until it actually happens.

As far as i know, no charges have ever been brought against any of these guys when they trained their guns on Federal employees at the Bundy Ranch stand-off. Cliven Bundy is still grazing his cattle on BLM lands and still owes the American people over a million dollars.

Since Bundy and his right-wing terrorists continue to break laws and threaten people without penalties of any sort, it emboldens all these militias to continue breaking laws and marauding where they please.

I can understand the government wanting to de-escalate, but if there continue to be no penalties, we will only see more of these armed anarchists and their terrorist tactics.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:09 AM

reACTIONary (5,643 posts)

37. They can under RICO....

.... not saying it applies , but corrupt organizations and corporations can be subjected to the law as a group .

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:46 AM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

38. I'll bet they had not thought of that angle.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:43 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

19. Snacks.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:36 PM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

30. DUZY

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:52 AM

bearssoapbox (1,408 posts)

5. I dozed off at about the 6 minute mark.

When I woke up a couple minutes later the stupid was still going on.

Done.

A bank of microphones???

Really?

They've had enough minutes of fame. Shut 'em down.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:40 AM

WhoIsNumberNone (7,869 posts)

10. Does he ever get to the part where I start caring?

Seriously- This dildo's watching with bated breath. All I see is some other dildos standing around in the snow. 8+ minutes in and he still hasn't clued me in on what's so exciting about this video that he couldn't trim it down first. Embedded journalist? Seriously? Some asshole who knows to hold his iPhone horizontally is more like it...

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:52 AM

Quixote1818 (28,201 posts)

11. The guy in the background who kept clamering about how historic the metting was?? WTF?

It's amazing how their illusions of grandeur have clouded their already small brains. The FBI I am sure has been ordered to keep any situation defused which makes these bozo's feel like they are accomplishing something.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:45 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

20. They are chalking this up as a victory.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:02 AM

Quixote1818 (28,201 posts)

22. The video says they are 3%ers and Bundy sent them packing

They saw Bundy getting all this attention and getting free snacks and wanted their egos stroked as well. So that was nothing more than ego stroking verbal diarrhea that the FBI could care less about but to them it was earth moving history that will be talked about in the new history books for centuries to come.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-refuge-occupiers-send-armed-group-community/story?id=36191053

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:27 PM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

28. That pretty much sums it up. These guys didn't read "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" and don't know

about the bubble they live in.

What the world needs now is consensual reality!

The Crack in the Cosmic Egg: New Constructs of Mind and Reality

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:00 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

33. I expect the KKK to show up next.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:04 AM

Freelancer (2,107 posts)

12. Guessing that GoPros with trucker cap mounts are being air lifted to them as we speak.

Aren't the reporters and camera operators for the networks ALSO trespassing. Taking them into custody first would defuse matters quicker than anything else. They don't need to charge them. Without the cameras, there's no point for these guys to stay there.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:05 AM

PADemD (4,482 posts)

13. Aw, how nice. They bonded and shook hands.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:09 AM

rusty quoin (6,133 posts)

14. I love history.

This bit of history is how we let these armed dumb fucks get away with this, not what this dumb fuck is reporting as history.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:33 AM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

15. Murica, where freedom is crossing state lines in a heavily-armed militia caravan to provide security

for another group of militia, and pretend to be all important, and show off your guns and ammo, and talk to FBI guys, and surround a courthouse and sheriff, and scare the shit out of a whole county, and make a movie about it, all the while lost in your own reality bubble.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:40 AM

rusty quoin (6,133 posts)

16. Bubbles are a big force today, without foundations in reality.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:42 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

18. They actually drove up and talked to real FBI guys and didn't crap themselves.....

That's historic.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:43 PM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

31. DUZY.

"We parked on the public road near the barricaded entrance to the FBI staging area" sounds incredibly thrilling.
I'm going to town and parking near the courthouse today to give the experience a try. Hope I don't crap myself.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:40 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)

17. I was half expecting them to swap brownie recipes....

Guess who adds nuts?

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:58 AM

Quixote1818 (28,201 posts)

21. This is the group Bundy told to leave so nothing worthwhile occured here in the least

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-refuge-occupiers-send-armed-group-community/story?id=36191053

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:38 AM

TrollBuster9090 (5,932 posts)

23. There must be TWO embedded reporters, because here's the encounter from a different angle.

FBI confronts Militiamen. (And I have to say, it really IS pretty damned pathetic when this gang of boozed-up cavemen drives down to confront the FBI, and they had no idea they were even coming. You guys are about as on-the-ball as the Secret Service detail that's guarding the White House.)

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #23)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:32 PM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

29. They knew they were coming, whole County was watching, militarily-armed caravan, a dozen vehicles,

went to Malheur first, announced their intentions to the press there, and went off to terrorize Burns. Half the town probably had their weapons cleaned before they came near city limits.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 08:56 AM

Geronimoe (1,539 posts)

25. Bundy has no authority

He has no authority to tell these people to leave. It isn't his land! Only a week ago Bundy was inviting everyone to join him.

They dropped off steaks for the Bundy gang and didn't even bring donuts for the FBI. All the FBI got was articles of consideration. Not too smart of them.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:41 AM

pediatricmedic (397 posts)

26. Without the FBI logo, it would be hard to tell them apart

Just an observation.

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Response to pediatricmedic (Reply #26)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:12 PM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

27. Not every applicant is accepted!

Some become local sheriffs, some become cops, some pretend for the rest of their lives.

All of the above can be in these militias when out of official uniform, just like the sheriff in the south is the likeliest suspect to be under the robe leading the local clan.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:41 PM

rickford66 (5,384 posts)

32. And what is going on here?

I just wasted a couple minutes of my life.

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Response to rickford66 (Reply #32)

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:08 PM

L. Coyote (51,129 posts)

34. Campaign 2016 wage the dog media carnival hosted by #BundyBunch pretending to be sagebrush rebels

and trying to provoke the federal government and demanding the USA go home and give them all the land to exploit as they wish.
In other words, just another Trump rally!

Official Member Of Trump Campaign Joins Oregon Militia
by Alan Pyke Jan 7, 2016

The co-chairman of Donald Trump’s New Hampshire “Veterans for Trump” group has arrived in Burns, Oregon, to assist the small cadre of armed men who are seeking to provoke a standoff with federal officials there.
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That not-quite-standoff began over the weekend when a handful of men led by Ammon Bundy decided to turn a much larger peaceful protest over a decision to send two ranchers back to jail for arson into an armed struggle. The group’s numbers are small – especially compared to the 300 who reportedly joined the peaceful protest of the re-sentencing – but they have now been reinforced by Jerry DeLemus, a former United States Marine living on the opposite side of the country.

Trump himself has said little about the situation in Oregon, following the pattern of most of the GOP primary candidates. But on Tuesday he seemed to tell The Hill it was time for the Bundy crew to pack it in and go home. “You have to maintain law and order, no matter what,” he said.

It is at least the second time DeLemus has ridden to the physical aid of a Bundy. When Ammon’s father Cliven had his cattle impounded by the Bureau of Land Management in 2014 over more than $1 million in unpaid fines and fees for his use of public lands, DeLemus and his son drove 41 hours in three days to come help. ....

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Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:20 PM

libodem (19,288 posts)

35. They have started

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Punching each other out over "stolen valor" now.

https://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/08/1467361/-After-accusations-of-stolen-valor-a-rival-group-and-a-broken-nose-the-Y-all-Qaeda-civil-war-begins

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Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:01 PM

libodem (19,288 posts)

36. kick

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