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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 04:55 PM Jun 2012

OOPS! Willard Romney: We Don’t Need ‘More FIREMEN, More POLICEMEN, More TEACHERS’





" When Republicans attack public workers, they often take care to exempt cops and firefighters, because they are culturally sympathetic figures, and muddle the message that government workers are parasites who are destroying the economic conditions of ordinary Americans.



But today Mitt Romney got a good deal more specific, claiming we do not need to hire more cops or firefighters specifically, which would, he said, cut against the interests of the American people. He also specificallly named teachers.

Romney made the comments in response to Obama’s presser today, at which the president claimed the “private sector is doing fine.” Per CNN:



Romney said of Obama, “he wants another stimulus, he wants to hire more government workers. He says we need more fireman, more policeman, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people.”




It’s hard to argue that the message from Wisconsin was that Americans don’t think we should hire more firefighters and cops. They were exempted from Scott Walker’s crackdown on public employee bargaining rights, which enabled him to “divide and conquer” labor.


But beyond that, this could resonate in the presidential race: It will allow the White House to reframe the debate over public sector workers and job creation on more favorable terms.


- This time, however, Romney deserves points for honesty: He has forthrightly declared that the class of government workers holding back other Americans does include cops, firefighters and teachers. And in so doing, he has singlehandedly reframed the debate from one over despised government bureaucrats to one over whether we should hire more cops, firefighters and teachers to get the economy going. This is a debate the White House will be happy to have.




cont'


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romney-we-dont-need-more-cops-firefighters-or-teachers/2012/06/08/gJQAvOgDOV_blog.html






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OOPS! Willard Romney: We Don’t Need ‘More FIREMEN, More POLICEMEN, More TEACHERS’ (Original Post) Segami Jun 2012 OP
I hate Mittens with the white hot passion of a thousand suns! Rambis Jun 2012 #1
yes he is bastard liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #6
He has a (R) by his name. That is all that too many people need to know. RC Jun 2012 #17
His last name starts with an (R) DWinNJ Jun 2012 #28
time to cut teachers liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #2
while everyone has a dozen babies, right? L. Coyote Jun 2012 #33
No, we don't. We can let creeps like Romney dress up as cops and go on patrol for free. THAT Nay Jun 2012 #3
or maybe he could just start dressing up like his "separated at birth" twin? alterfurz Jun 2012 #11
Same set of the mouth and jaw, same look in the eyes, same slight squint of the eyebrows. colorado_ufo Jun 2012 #29
"At 60, one has the face one deserves." alterfurz Jun 2012 #34
yikes! TalkingTina Jun 2012 #39
THIS should have been the soundbite that echoed throughout the MSM chambers annabanana Jun 2012 #4
I think that since this is his great idea Worried senior Jun 2012 #5
We hate him because, well he's just a dick RockyMtnGuy Jun 2012 #7
Now, if we had ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #8
They don't have to ask. They know just what percentage of the unemployed are teachers L. Coyote Jun 2012 #35
I wonder if ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #9
MSNBC has been pointing this out all day ... NOT! JoePhilly Jun 2012 #10
Translation felix_numinous Jun 2012 #12
I wonder what he thinks about prison guards. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #13
What mitt robme wants is what out of control capitolism wants: chknltl Jun 2012 #14
PLEASE REMEMBER . . . madashelltoo Jun 2012 #15
See Romney/Hess photos in above post. colorado_ufo Jun 2012 #30
Idiots 12ZTR Jun 2012 #16
What we need... Godot51 Jun 2012 #18
With any luck the firemen will remember that next time geefloyd46 Jun 2012 #19
Senor Romney doesn't need firefighters Tyrs WolfDaemon Jun 2012 #20
We don't need more police? meeksgeek Jun 2012 #21
The 53% win in WI was about not overturning a previous election, NOT a hatred of cops and firemen. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #22
Can he even hear what he says? HopeHoops Jun 2012 #23
honestly, I don't think so Skittles Jun 2012 #50
Even the idiot Teabaggers in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives starroute Jun 2012 #24
Even uneducated lawless morons Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #47
Yep, we don't need more teachers Lifelong Protester Jun 2012 #25
They do not WANT more teachers! colorado_ufo Jun 2012 #31
So the police, firemen and teachers are NOT American people? freshwest Jun 2012 #26
If it is so un-American to work for the government L. Coyote Jun 2012 #36
Haha! And why was his dad a governor? And why was he a wannabe cop? You got something there! freshwest Jun 2012 #37
Keep talkin', Mitt. tanyev Jun 2012 #27
Suddenly, everyone constituting the government is what, Russian or something? L. Coyote Jun 2012 #32
I don't understand why people are buying his crap Herlong Jun 2012 #38
Only in "GOP America" are public employees not real Americans. Beartracks Jun 2012 #40
Breaking: Rmoney demands the dissolution of Congress because they are government workers. BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #41
We don't need Mitt Romney Jack Rabbit Jun 2012 #42
This needs to be in an Obama campaign ad. nt SunSeeker Jun 2012 #43
Dont you know? GOP wants ALL bonniebgood Jun 2012 #44
"It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people.” ELABORATE, CLARIFY LaPera Jun 2012 #45
What are you you guys talking about? I love this idiot! Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #46
He's a jerkoff (NT) The Wizard Jun 2012 #48
After they fire the cops and firefighters who will respond when the enemy is at their gates? olegramps Jun 2012 #49

Rambis

(7,774 posts)
1. I hate Mittens with the white hot passion of a thousand suns!
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jun 2012

How he is running from president and how we got here boggles my mind. He is a psychopath can't everyone see that? I look at this guy and think he would kill you in your sleep if he got the chance.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
17. He has a (R) by his name. That is all that too many people need to know.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jun 2012

Nothing else matters, because anything wrong is the fault of the Democrats, Liberal, Socialist, Left wingers.

 

liberalnationalist

(170 posts)
2. time to cut teachers
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 04:59 PM
Jun 2012

is Raw Money's idea of helping the American people..more like helping his Mormon religious buddies.

Doesn't the Mormon religion preach that infiltrating and bringing down the school system is thier one of many attempt for them to take over America?

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
33. while everyone has a dozen babies, right?
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jun 2012

More babies and fewer teachers, yeah, that formula is going to work

Nay

(12,051 posts)
3. No, we don't. We can let creeps like Romney dress up as cops and go on patrol for free. THAT
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 05:00 PM
Jun 2012

oughta keep the neighborhood safe....

colorado_ufo

(6,252 posts)
29. Same set of the mouth and jaw, same look in the eyes, same slight squint of the eyebrows.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jun 2012

No emotion, no empathy.

Just, "Get the job done," and if there is "collateral damage," so what - it had to get done.

This picture comparison is quite a find and is compelling. People's faces become set over time by their experiences, actions, and reactions. Romney's past actions have been cold and detached; if he can detach himself to the suffering of his dog, I have no doubt that he could detach himself from the suffering of people whom he puts out of work, or the people from whom he will remove Medicare, Medicaid, and pensions.

Chilling.

Worried senior

(1,328 posts)
5. I think that since this is his great idea
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jun 2012

when he needs one of these people to perform a duty for him, they aren't available.

Same with the repubs thinking we don't need bridges, roads, buildings or schools fixed; they are the ones that are injured when one of these collapse. Maybe they would finally wake up but suppose that is asking too much.

RockyMtnGuy

(83 posts)
7. We hate him because, well he's just a dick
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 05:33 PM
Jun 2012

We don't hate people because they've been successful. We hate people because they lie, because they are dishonest. We hate Mitt because he'll say anything to get elected, because his words are hollow.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. Now, if we had ...
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 05:39 PM
Jun 2012

a responsible journalist media, wouldn't one think they would ask the question:

"Are public employees not part of the 'American People'?"

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
35. They don't have to ask. They know just what percentage of the unemployed are teachers
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jun 2012

and librarians, school bus drivers janitors, etc. And they know exactly what the economic impact of so many unemployed public-sector workers is.

But, they also know how to keep their own jobs working for the plutocrats, by keeping their own mouths shut.

... and their kid's mouths full, I might add.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. I wonder if ...
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jun 2012

all those public employees that voted for walker (or stayed at home) are kicking themselves yet?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
10. MSNBC has been pointing this out all day ... NOT!
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 05:50 PM
Jun 2012

Been listening all day, I heard Mitt say this live, but I have not heard a single MSNBC host touch it.

But Obama is out of touch ... that's the only news today.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
12. Translation
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 06:38 PM
Jun 2012

"We need more privatization of education, security and fire and rescue." The RW wants to buy everything on the monopoly board--utilities, military, industry--including public services now run by state and federal agencies. Their aim is to own and bypass all regulation and oversight.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. I wonder what he thinks about prison guards.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 06:59 PM
Jun 2012

I remember back in the Reagan/Bush days when the Republicans were all over law and order and punishing crime. How do you do that without policemen and firemen?

And what was his record in Massachusetts on employing public servants -- teachers prison guards, firemen, police officers, housing and building code inspectors?

A lot of neighborhood associations in nice areas are dominated by Republicans who want local code restrictions enforced at all costs.

The Republican mantra of small government, if applied at the local level, would make the enforcement of building codes pretty tough.

Romney's stance is incredibly naive. It is a slogan that could come back to bite him as the campaign progresses.

If leaders in the construction industry had to wait even longer to get someone to come out and approve their work, can you imagine how they would scream?

Less government indeed. Mitt Romney needs to rethink this slogan.

madashelltoo

(1,830 posts)
15. PLEASE REMEMBER . . .
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jun 2012

They want to shrink the government down to a size they can drown in a bathtub. (per Grover Norquist)

That one sentence should be echoed from coast to coast. They are trying to dismantle this government and sell off what was formerly the United States of America. The people will work for next to nothing out of survival desperation. The chunkier crumbs will go to the police to keep the peons in line. Mitt's the guy you send in when you want to take it down. No emotional ties to the little people. Just the cold-hearted killing of a way of life.

Don't take it personal.

 

12ZTR

(92 posts)
16. Idiots
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jun 2012

I hope the Wingnut's houses burn, criminals destroy their lives.They don't need teachers.You
can't fix stupid.

Godot51

(781 posts)
18. What we need...
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:55 PM
Jun 2012

Well, what Little Mittle says is true, we don't need those non-Amercian people like teachers, police officers or fire fighters. What have they ever done for us?
What we need is chefs, chauffeurs, maids and butlers along with, you know, those little illegals who do all the dirty jobs and maybe a caddy or two. And prison guards.
And what about the military? Do they work for the government? Oh, no matter, we can always hire Blackwater to save money and I'm sure Mitts knows a few people who have their own private armies.

geefloyd46

(1,939 posts)
19. With any luck the firemen will remember that next time
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 07:58 PM
Jun 2012

Mittens house is burning down. I'd say it was the market place at work and I'd live it to Mitt the five boys and a garden hose. No socialized fire fighting.

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
20. Senor Romney doesn't need firefighters
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jun 2012

He's got enough money to hire his own private ones when needed (probably provided by whatever name Blackwater is going by now). It is the same for the cops (Those stand your ground laws are probably helping in that it gives his 'police' an excuse for shooting people). As for teachers, I'm sure he figures that if you can't afford to send your kids to a private school or for special in house tutors, that your kids don't need educating. After all, they will never amount to anything more than being his serfs in life.

meeksgeek

(1,250 posts)
21. We don't need more police?
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 08:39 PM
Jun 2012

Oh, I get it. We'll let the neighborhood watch guys handle that sort of thing. Good idea.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
22. The 53% win in WI was about not overturning a previous election, NOT a hatred of cops and firemen.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 08:43 PM
Jun 2012

Nor was it any kind of a national mandate. It was one STATE matter and ONE set of particular dynamics. A majority there rejected a recall of a sitting governor. It did not invoke a hatred of copes and firemen nor an extreme love of Walker.

The Dems need to HAMMER this asshole with this. PLASTER IT ALL OVER THEIR ADS. If there is a cop or firefighter left in this country would consider voting for this asshole, then they deserve him.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
24. Even the idiot Teabaggers in the GOP-controlled House of Representatives
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:42 PM
Jun 2012

... just added extra funding for cops and firefighters to the Homeland Security bill.

They did it because their states and local districts love getting that money.

They also did it because of their free-market ideology, which states that the only legitimate function of government is to protect private property. But even they know you can't do that without police and without firefighters.

Half the problem with Mitt is not that he's a conservative but that he's a really, really bad conservative. As in, he hasn't yet gotten the basic message about conserving things.

Or maybe it's that he really is a robot pretending to be human.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
25. Yep, we don't need more teachers
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 12:49 AM
Jun 2012


The stupid is soooooo painful.

BTW-one of the "un-necessary" teachers, checking in here.

colorado_ufo

(6,252 posts)
31. They do not WANT more teachers!
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:15 AM
Jun 2012

An educated populace is the last thing that they want.

Serf city, here we come . . .

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. So the police, firemen and teachers are NOT American people?
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jun 2012

What nationality are they?

Or are they illegal Americans?

What is Romney's plan for them?

Deportation to Kolob?




L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
36. If it is so un-American to work for the government
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jun 2012

why is Mitt running for office? Does he want to become the problem?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
37. Haha! And why was his dad a governor? And why was he a wannabe cop? You got something there!
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jun 2012

L. Coyote

(51,134 posts)
32. Suddenly, everyone constituting the government is what, Russian or something?
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jun 2012

Cutting back on government puts American people out of work and has immense ramifications to the economy, putting even more people out of work.

 

Herlong

(649 posts)
38. I don't understand why people are buying his crap
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jun 2012

He's been running for office forever and he has NO new ideas. Every time I see him he's like a woman ragging on his boyfriend.

Beartracks

(14,593 posts)
40. Only in "GOP America" are public employees not real Americans.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:26 PM
Jun 2012

Only in "GOP America" are unseen public servants "faceless bureaucrats" while unseen private sector employees are "hard-working Americans."

Only in "GOP America" would eliminating thousands upon thousands of public sector jobs result in higher employment.

Only in "GOP America" can people be this irrational.

====================

bonniebgood

(958 posts)
44. Dont you know? GOP wants ALL
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 01:55 AM
Jun 2012

government to be "appointed" ask MICHIGAN. That includes all of congress. and
yes, those 36% of households in WI who voted for Walker were policemen and firefighter no one wants to admit. Policemen and firefighters are basically republicans.

LaPera

(6,486 posts)
45. "It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people.” ELABORATE, CLARIFY
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 02:09 AM
Jun 2012

give SPECIFICS!!! - Romney, you lying greedy corporate elitist republican bastard!!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
46. What are you you guys talking about? I love this idiot!
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jun 2012

He just blew a major Republican talking point for us! Come on! There was NO WAY the media was going to connect "government workers" with police, firefighters and teachers no matter how many times one of us said it.

The media and the Republicans talked about "government workers" as if they were contemptible useless paper pushers serving no real function apart from collecting a paycheck.

Now, thanks to Mitt and his big mouth WE own the debate with the American People over whether we need more teachers, police and firefighters. Three jobs that have traditionally earned respect in our communities.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
49. After they fire the cops and firefighters who will respond when the enemy is at their gates?
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:01 PM
Jun 2012

Eventually they are going to regret that they ever pissed them off, when the infuriate masses in open revolt show up at their gated communities with pitchforks and torches. Their desperate 911 calls will be answered by some person that says "so sorrie, no speakie enlish."

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