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Animal Rights Activists Disrupt Bernie Sanders at Wisconsin Rally (Original Post) oberliner Apr 2016 OP
respectful protest and respectful response tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #1
Did he rage at the people saying he was sick of them? Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #2
No, he just completely ignored the issue they were raising oberliner Apr 2016 #3
Oh Please Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #4
no one is or was making that comparison Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #7
Huh? oberliner Apr 2016 #10
You saw that??? Plucketeer Apr 2016 #18
I don't understand this reaction oberliner Apr 2016 #22
You got from that video that Sanders directed that they be escorted out? Plucketeer Apr 2016 #24
Oh, I see what you are saying oberliner Apr 2016 #25
I support Bernie. SamKnause Apr 2016 #5
I think both Bernie and the crowd responded exceptionally well. PotatoChip Apr 2016 #6
Hi. SamKnause Apr 2016 #8
Thanks. You too! (nt) PotatoChip Apr 2016 #9
He could have said something about animal welfare oberliner Apr 2016 #11
Meh. I think his record speaks for itself, PotatoChip Apr 2016 #12
His record on income inequality speaks for itself oberliner Apr 2016 #13
Who knows? Maybe he will. PotatoChip Apr 2016 #14
The animal rights activists at Direct Action Everywhere did look these things up oberliner Apr 2016 #15
'You can't please em all', people say. PotatoChip Apr 2016 #16
Fair enough oberliner Apr 2016 #21
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ swilton Apr 2016 #26
I liked this animal rights activist's tactic a lot better... jtuck004 Apr 2016 #17
I think I'll have a hamburger... ConsiderThis_2016 Apr 2016 #19
Eating Less Meat Essential to Curb Climate Change, Says Report oberliner Apr 2016 #20
we are blessed here in New England to have lots of fish and seafood and we eat a lot CTyankee Apr 2016 #23
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ swilton Apr 2016 #27

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
1. respectful protest and respectful response
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:08 AM
Apr 2016

good on America -- some parts of it are still working properly

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. No, he just completely ignored the issue they were raising
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:25 AM
Apr 2016

And had the protestors removed by security guards.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Huh?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:30 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie is definitely not Trump.

I just stated exactly what occurred, which was that Bernie ignored the issue the protestors raised and security guards removed them from the event.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
24. You got from that video that Sanders directed that they be escorted out?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe it was security's decision. Either way, I'm willing to BET that the vast majority of folks had come and patiently waited to hear what BERNIE had to say. I doubt they came in hopes that a protest would disrupt Bernie's presentation. As I see it, these animal advocates could have held their little "display" until AFTER (or even before) Sander's speech. Of course, rudeness rules anymore. That's how caring sorts like the Donald manage to stay in the spotlight.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. Oh, I see what you are saying
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

I should have written that they were removed by security rather than saying that Bernie had security remove them.

It is fair to say, though, that he did not interact with the protestors or attempt to speak about the issues they raised.

Perhaps just a sentence or two on the topic could have shown that he shares some of the concerns of those activists (who, when interviewed, said they were Bernie supporters).

He could have then continued on with his presentation and at least let the activists know that he acknowledges their issue.

SamKnause

(14,945 posts)
5. I support Bernie.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:45 AM
Apr 2016

I admire Bernie.

I respect Bernie.

I have a Bernie sign on my front door.

I have a Bernie sign on my truck window.

I love Bernie.

It would be one of the happiest days in my life to see him become president !!!!!!!!!

Having said all that.

I did not like the approach that Bernie used.

I would have admired and respected him even more, if he would have

listened to their short message, or addressed them and agreed to speak

with them after the rally.

I am most perturbed by the rally goers response.

I don't like the mob mentality tactics.

I will state that Bernie did handle it respectfully, but I wish he

would have made a different choice.

FEEL THE BERN



PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
6. I think both Bernie and the crowd responded exceptionally well.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:55 AM
Apr 2016

Plus, the activists got to make their point. Win, win for everyone!

The whole thing was literally less then 30 seconds.

Bravo Bernie!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. He could have said something about animal welfare
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:33 AM
Apr 2016

There is a whole section on the subject on the "Feel the Bern" website so clearly there are supporters of his for whom this is an important issue.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-animal-welfare/

It might have been good to address the topic in response to the activists (who are themselves Bernie supporters).

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
12. Meh. I think his record speaks for itself,
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

if people want to know where he stands on this kind of issue. I'm sure he's dealt with it in his Vermont US Senate District. They are a very activist oriented kind of state.

And who knows? Perhaps he or a staff member will reach out to these young people for a meeting or something. Maybe also address the issue in a future speech...

ETA: Of course, he is a wee bit busy right now, so that needs to be a consideration.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. His record on income inequality speaks for itself
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:09 AM
Apr 2016

Yet he discusses the issue extensively at every stump speech.

It couldn't hurt to include a sentence or two about animal welfare, especially in response to protestors who have tried to draw attention to the issue at several of his events recently.

When he was interrupted by activists from Black Lives Matter, he made a point of reaching out to them and then addressing the issues raised in future speeches. Perhaps he can do something similar with these activists?

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
14. Who knows? Maybe he will.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016


But in any event, I take no issue with the fact that every singe issue is not necessarily a priority in his stump speeches. His overall theme of income inequality is an umbrella to the hundreds of issues that people care about. Including animal rights.

People can look these things up themselves to see where he stands on whatever their concerns may be.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. The animal rights activists at Direct Action Everywhere did look these things up
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

They were not happy with what they found - hence the protest.

These are progressives that are supporting Bernie and agree with him on many issues - but are not happy with him on this one.

Here's a quote from Matt Johnson, one of the activists who has been speaking out about this:

“I’m a Bernie supporter. He’s the most progressive, viable candidate at the moment. But he’s not a progressive when it comes to animal rights.”


Source: Why Vegans Are Protesting Bernie Sanders Rallies

https://munchies.vice.com/en/articles/why-these-vegans-are-protesting-bernie-sanders-rallies

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
16. 'You can't please em all', people say.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:54 AM
Apr 2016

I'm glad that Bernie at least tries-- instead of treating people's concerns with dismissive contempt.

I'm proud of him, and proud of this people-powered campaign.

Have a great day.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. Fair enough
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

A couple of election cycles ago you didn't hear anyone talking about trans rights. Now the folks on our side address that important issue.

Maybe it will take another few cycles before progressive candidates start talking about this.

I would encourage you to consider the impact on climate change, if nothing else:

http://ourworld.unu.edu/en/eating-less-meat-essential-to-curb-climate-change-says-report

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
17. I liked this animal rights activist's tactic a lot better...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016



Got more press and attention, w/o even a sign.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. Eating Less Meat Essential to Curb Climate Change, Says Report
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016
Curbing the world’s huge and increasing appetite for meat is essential to avoid devastating climate change, according to a new report. But governments and green campaigners are doing nothing to tackle the issue due to fears of a consumer backlash, warns the analysis from the thinktank Chatham House.

The global livestock industry produces more greenhouse gas emissions than all cars, planes, trains and ships combined, but a worldwide survey by Ipsos MORI in the report finds twice as many people think transport is the bigger contributor to global warming.

“Preventing catastrophic warming is dependent on tackling meat and dairy consumption, but the world is doing very little,” said Rob Bailey, the report’s lead author. “A lot is being done on deforestation and transport, but there is a huge gap on the livestock sector. There is a deep reluctance to engage because of the received wisdom that it is not the place of governments or civil society to intrude into people’s lives and tell them what to eat.”

The recent landmark report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found that dietary change can “substantially lower” emissions but there is no UN plan to achieve that.

http://ourworld.unu.edu/en/eating-less-meat-essential-to-curb-climate-change-says-report

Something to consider.

CTyankee

(68,476 posts)
23. we are blessed here in New England to have lots of fish and seafood and we eat a lot
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

of it. Also chicken. We do occasionally eat meat, but not as much as fish and chicken. I have a favorite salmon recipe that we make almost every Friday night but of course we have lots of cod and flounder. We also like crab cakes and linguine with clam sauce, mmm...

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