TYT - Hillary Donors Use State Loopholes To Launder Millions

[phazed0]

Dirty, dirty, dirty...

[Else You Are Mad]

1. This is..

So utterly absurd. The MSM won't report on this because they are the direct beneficiaries of this corruption & it needs to stop. And, if the roles were reversed and Sanders received this money, I would be against it.

[phazed0]

2. You betcha +1 nt

[rhett o rick]

3. So do the Clinton supporters ignore the corruption? Do they think it's just collateral damage

to have a Clinton Aristocracy? Do they live in a bubble of denial? I honestly don't understand. During the Bush Admin they were all about ending the corruption of big money in politics. They shouted down Citizens United. Now they quietly embrace big money in politics and Citizens United. During the Bush Admin they spoke out about the role the Corp-Media had in promulgating propaganda and now they quietly embrace it. Seems they accept corruption as long as it's their authoritarian leader that's in charge.

We need a revolution against the culture of corruption in government.

[Else You Are Mad]

4. That's exactly it...

The Hillary camp see this election as her turn to get elected & she deserves to be elected. So whatever it takes to get her into the White House is fine.

[phazed0]

5. Just like the GOP "BOOING" facts during the debates..

Hillary supporters seem to have no place for such talk.

I posted a video yesterday from TYT titled: "Hillary Clinton Bribed $2.9 Million For Twelve Wall St. Speeches"

It was taken down by jury because the title had "Bribed" in it... I guess Hillary supporters are OK with bribery so long as it's "legal". I had added no other content to it.. somehow, now, TYT is TOO liberal for them.. wow.

[PatrynXX]

6. getting annoyed but the hide giddy

I mention a tiny joke as us Medicated Depressed dweebs do and everything else is nothing but numbers but they use the joke to get it hidden. Hey I'm used to The Tea Party not giving a damn about Mental Illness I'm not used to D.. oh wait she's Conservative I gotta remember that..

[Bubzer]

7. This explains why there's been a huge shift in argument to saying we have to fund downticket dems...

The biggest method for funding downticket dems, is through party donations. Party donations mostly go to her.

And people wonder why the people are fed up with the establishment.

[freebrew]

9. Is why I won't donate to DNC...

HRC already drew a $250K paycheck.

Like she needs it? That's $$$ that could help many down-ticket races.
Wonder if it came from her private donors?

[leftofcool]

10. She also collected 34 million for down ticket races

How much did Bernie collect again?

[freebrew]

11. You can tell me later...

how much of that went to the down-ticket races...
I know 0% went to my state. As there are very few Dems on any ticket.
Can hardly turn things around with no one running.

Bernie isn't laundering $$$. I still don't see the attraction to HRC, unless maybe you're rich.

[RoccoR5955]

18. And who decides

if that money goes to DINOs or REAL Democratic candidates.
One of the reasons I will not donate to the DNC is because they fund DINOs. I will not have my money to anyone who is not on board with principles of the Democratic Party, and only uses it as a name.

[rhett o rick]

27. And what does she owe to whom for that money? You are bragging about the very corruption

we are fighting. The DNC buys super-delegate votes with cash. The system is rigged and needs to be dismantled.

[cprise]

29. The Clintons are figureheads for a huge party machine.

[scottie55]

8. This Is Sickening - And You Wonder

Why the game is rigged.

Why Sanders Supporters are so pissed off.

[longship]

12. Second thread with this. Both need R&Ks nt

[Old Crow]

13. K&R (N/T)

[jwirr]

14. I am glad that TYT's are getting this out and I hope the other

independent news sources will also.

But I am wondering how we in the state parties should react to this. I posted about reading this and then attending my first convention as an alternate delegate. How I kept wondering why we were even there. If it was all for nothing since the State Convention will be run by the same people who sold us out? I had all I could do to stay in my seat and not stand up screaming my thoughts. All I could do not to just walk out.

So our Bernie delegates get to the State Convention. How are they supposed to address this issue? No way in hell could I set there and pretend that this was not happening. No way could I set there and pretend that my 5 super-delegates were not bought and owned by the Clinton campaign. If this is not revealed and dealt with before the nominee is chosen then all I can say is this is a total farce.

Democracy anyone?

[phazed0]

16. Nope! Sit down, shut up and take it...

...Is how it would go if they had their way.

Right there with you! +1

[jwirr]

17. One thing I would ask for at the State Convention would

be a extended treasurers report with names of big donors and expenditures. And I would want to propose that our Super-Delegates be released from this vow and that we abolish Super-Delegates from the next election. NO more.

[phazed0]

20. +1 If only we had a system of government that was actually a Democracy nt

[jwirr]

22. I just got done writing our state chair. Doubt if it will accomplish

anything. But at least I said it.

[phazed0]

23. Good on ya!

[murielm99]

33. Would that be before or after Bernie

straightens out his mess with the FEC and releases his income tax information?

[gordyfl]

15. You Can See Why

it's such an uphill battle for Bernie. We must not give up.

[bbgrunt]

19. K and R!

[Iwillnevergiveup]

21. I saw the news today

oh boy.

[Ford_Prefect]

24. A silly question to ask in the context of the report, But what happens to all that money

or what is left of it when she loses the nomination? Which democrats benefit and how much? Does the party get behind Bernie or do they duck dive and risk a GOP dominated Senate and House?

Money doesn't talk, It swears! The people who invested in HRC and all who sail in her expect to get a return on that investment, or expect to guarantee that return. Just what are they willing to do or have they done to secure that result?

I know if I had 1.2 million in the pot I'd defend the hell out of it. Now imagine that 30 or 40 like minded and connected friends had bet that kind of money and had the same degree of interest and similar goals to accomplish in the outcome. What kind of things might we willingly do to guarantee results in our favor?

It starts to sound more like the local "Family Enterprise" and less like a political party interested in representing ordinary people and their needs. It would also go a long way to explaining some of the arrogance and attitude towards those in the party not so blessed with finances to spare. Which is not to mention the unwillingness to discuss facts and events that seem to contradict the party line or the party favorite.

[CrispyQ]

25. Here's a really good article.

How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties
by MARGOT KIDDER

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/

snip...

Collusion between the Clinton campaign and the DNC allowed Hillary Clinton to buy the loyalty of 33 state Democratic parties last summer. Montana was one of those states. It sold itself for $64,100.

The Super Delegates now defying democracy with their insistent refusal to change their votes to Sanders in spite of a handful of overwhelming Clinton primary losses in their own states, were arguably part of that deal.

In August 2015, at the Democratic Party convention in Minneapolis, 33 democratic state parties made deals with the Hillary Clinton campaign and a joint fundraising entity called The Hillary Victory Fund. The deal allowed many of her core billionaire and inner circle individual donors to run the maximum amounts of money allowed through those state parties to the Hillary Victory Fund in New York and the DNC in Washington.

snip...

In other words, a single donor, by giving 10,000 dollars a year to each signatory state could legally give an extra $330,000 a year for two years to the Hillary Victory Fund. For each donor, this raised their individual legal cap on the Presidential campaign to $660,000 if given in both 2015 and 2016. And to one million, three hundred and 20 thousand dollars if an equal amount were also donated in their spouse’s name.

My state did this, too. Gee, wonder if that's why 8 of our 12 super delegates are in the bag for HRC, in spite of the fact that Sanders won 59% of the caucus votes? If HRC is the democratic nom, I'm going to have a helluva time voting for her. I won't actually know until that ballot is in front of me, if I can.

[phazed0]

28. I'm going to write-in Bernie if he's not listed... nt

[Trust Buster]

26. I am actually thrilled to hear this.

The wealthiest Republicans have this down to a science. That's what we're up against. It makes me feel much better to know that the Democrats are also taking advantage in like kind. Would you rather the Republicans crush us in November, reshape the Supreme Court and live with Citizens United and it's sister ruling for a generation ? NOT ME !!! These are the current rules of the road like it or not. If we don't play on a level playing field with the Republicans, we will be crushed in November and ALL spending limits will be removed.

[rhett o rick]

30. What I hear you saying is that we need corruption to fight republicon corruption

and that's Clinton. You are expressing what most of us are fighting against. A corrupt culture that includes the Republicons and some Democrats that have given us 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty.

If you believe that H. Clinton wants to kill Citizens United, I have a bridge to sell you. She is loving the benefits of Citizens United.

I think Obama's current nominee for the SCOTUS is a proponent of Citizens United and Clinton is to the right of Obama.

During the Bush admin all Democrats were against big money in politics. Now only the progressives have that position. The non-progressives have decided that Citizens United aint so bad if it gets Clinton elected.

[Trust Buster]

31. I don't agree. Her first speech in Wisconsin had to do with the Supreme Court and Citizens United.

All politicians know that the money has gotten out of control. I think, if a Democrat wins the presidency, we'll have at least a 5-4 Left leaning Supreme Court and Citizens United's days will be numbered.

But, we CAN'T AFFORD to get religion now. The Republican billionaires know that their hopes rest with the Judicial Branch. They know that all their voter suppression efforts like voter I.D. and gerrymandering will soon give way to demographic shifts and the Legislative Branch will not be their vehicle. They are going to spend obscene amounts to win this presidential and Senatorial elections. They MUST reshape the Supreme Court for a generation in their minds. We can't tie the hands of our candidate in the midst of this offensive financial onslaught. Please go to Amazon and review Jane Meyer's new book "Dark Money". It's a riveting book that explains how the oligarch wishes to wrest control of our Judicial Branch.

[rhett o rick]

32. She is pandering to the Left with her blognia about nominating a progressive

to the SCOTUS. She isn't progressive, never has been and never will be. For someone that pretends to not approve of Citizens United she isn't afraid to take advantage. That's called situational ethics.

As far as the make-up of the court, as I see it: I believe Obama's current choice is a proponent of CU. If so there will be a good chance that the court make up will be 5 -4 favoring CU. If Clinton becomes president and Ginsburg steps down, I believe that Clintons nominee won't be as liberal as Ginsburg and may be a similar choice as Obama's. So at best it would stay 5 - 4 for CU and at worst it'd be 6 - 3 in favor. So help me out. How do you see the court changing?

Thanks for the tip about the book. I am currently reading "Asshole: A Theory" with "The deep state : the fall of the constitution and the rise of a shadow government" next.

[Hekate]

34. Well aren't you special. Just because 45+ DUers agree does not make it true...

It just shows you are ill informed about the laws involved.

[phazed0]

35. LOL!

Please, explain it all away for us! On second thought, no thanks!

[Logical]

36. It shows the Hillary fans are out of touch. nt

[TalkingDog]

37. So they decided in mid 2015 to coronate her.

nobody is surprised.