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tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)it was also good on Clooney in a way, because there are supporters of Clinton who are reasonable and will not dispute an indisputable fact when presented with it, but they are few and far between.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)TryLogic
(1,723 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..a 27$ dinner for Bernie supporters too, and make it in a place that a hundred people can eat in. Bernie probably has better coat tails than HRC if what I hear in the street is any indication, because many have so much distrust for her they will not vote for her in the general. Not everyone is like DU.
Frankly, I can never look at a Clooney movie the same way ever again. Why not have an 353K dinner to overturn Citizen's United? Or for several Dems in congress from both camps instead of just HRC if he means what he says?
Why not raise money for ActBlue? Or Moveon? They also work tirelessly to get Democrats elected.
I really hate this kind of "pragmatic" white-wash because it perpetuates the same system as always, with a cover of benign rhetoric.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)raiser that would extend across the nation. We could all go out to eat and donate to Bernie at the same time.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Frankly lots of millionaire supporters should do this. But even at a hundred people a pop, I guess it doesn't raise enough to be worth the effort. Us ordinaries just can never approach that 353K amount. But Clooney should do something to put his money where his mouth is.
Women for Bernie already does nationwide pot lucks. You can go to one in your area. Just google them. (I doubt they are only for women.) But it's more for organizing purposes than fundraising, I think.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)Clooney loses me here. If it's so obscene why are you participating? as Hillary wants us to believe all the thousands she has taken from corporate america does not corrupt her decisions and at the same time tells us she wants to do away with citizens united because it corrupts the system.
Do they think we are stupid.
This double talk is also part of the problem in politics and it won't go away even if citizens united is overturned.
Bodych
(133 posts)I did note his comment that Hillary was raising money not for herself, but for down-ticket candidates. How magnanimous of her.
No doubt that money is piped to the DNC, headed by failure Debbie Wasserman Schultz, where it's dispersed to like-minded establishment pro-Clinton politicians who, like the Clinton campaign, seem to celebrate and cheerlead Citizens United.
Plus the fact that, shockingly, people can actually donate directly to those they support who are downticket from Clinton. Maybe it's never occurred to big-money donors that they can do this?
It pains Clooney so much to have big money in our elections...while he celebrates big money in our elections.
This is just lunacy, and he comes across as not just disingenuous, but two-faced.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)candidates is just bribes to super delegates. I doubt that any candidate endorsing Bernie will get any support money from the DNC.
Bodych
(133 posts)...I'm just sick and tired of the hypocrisy of these people, and I see the Clinton campaign and its supporters celebrating and encouraging Citizen United in all its glory.
She and they will "fight" Wall Street--while taking its money--and she and they will fight Citizens United--while cheerfully skipping to the bank with wheelbarrows of Big Money "donations-without-strings" (they're all magnanimous, too).
It seems that only Clinton campaigners and supporters can't see through any of this. It's called willful ignorance.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Can't figure out what the hell he is doing this for. Given that he's a smart guy, he must know how disingenuous this is. I wonder if it's something for Amal and her political future? Or even, his own.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)that has anything to do with the 33 state democratic party deal to launder money from the wealthy through the state parties and returning a small amount to the states for this help. By the way the States are doing this only for Hillary.
afertal
(148 posts)Hillary's mega-donors are not the way to save us from Citizens United, and are unlikely to even damage the Golden Goose.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)were to donate $27 bucks for a plate of food for homeless kids and their parents and veterans and the like - in some big stadium or park or such. Pay for the food and venue services and give what's left to down-ticket progressives? I'm talkin' BIG city - BIG crowd.
afertal
(148 posts)....though obviously a difficult thing to pull off.
I attended a pot-luck for Sanders yesterday, and it was great, but we end up preaching to the choir.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)His reasoning is at least mitigating, supporting downticket candidates. But I wish he had come out with a full throated support of Bernie Sanders.
Still, Clooney is