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Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Bernie Sanders.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They want to coronate the Queen, by hook or by crook. They'll go "oops, sorry" later.
dchill
(38,489 posts)By then, I'm sure the theory is that President Clinton II can just pardon the whole DNC and the 33 individual state Democratic party organizations. The sleaze is spread SO thick and wide.
valerief
(53,235 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)and underhanded.
So many parts of her campaign are nefarious, based on dirty tricks or unfair advantages. From the rigged debate schedule to the money laundering to the bizarre epidemic of primary-election and caucus debacles.
The Clinton campaign is sketchy on multiple levels.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)Whatever HC did while SoS can be covered by "She was working for Obama". Got it.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I went along with the: Republicans BAD - Democrats GOOD, game. Sure, there's the honest Dem or two. But so many of them really have no choice but to get swept up in the whirlwinds of money-grubbing that is CLEARLY the primary force of propulsion in our political systems today. Does it even matter which is in power anymore? Well, yes it does. Look at Governor McCauliffe vs. Governor Brownback for contrast. But the MONEY - the fucking money.... And WHO is it that says they'll have a litmus test for prospective SCOTUS picks???
I got a small tax refund from our state taxes. I'm going to donate it to our front man's efforts. It's ALL I can do, but at least I'll know where it went and what it's spent for. It's spent on US.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)blown to hell the "Republicans/bad-Democrats/bad belief.
This primary has shifted the entire paradigm. It's very clear now that the demarkations are the corrupt establishment vs the non-establishment--which is made up of many Democrats.
Whether or not those non-establishment Dems work to fight within the party to rid our party of this aggressive cancer, remains to be seen. I hope that's what happens.
These corrupters of basic democracy are powerful now, but I don't see their antics as being an effective, long-term strategy.
It's like watching Walter White slowly implode. As you get in deeper with the corruption and crimes--the number of unstable and nefarious people within the framework grows. This creates risk and instability--which requires more corruption and lies to sustain the crimes. Fans of Breaking Bad know exactly what I'm talking about.
Corruption is not an optimal long-term strategy. Furthermore, corrupt systems don't exist in a vacuum. They are part of the real world. Good guys exist in the real world too--that includes regular folks who fight corruption as well as law enforcement, powerful leaders who are not corrupt and "We The Prople" who are demanding the snuffing out of corruption within our systems.
Ultimately, the good guys will win. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen overnight.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)interested if there was any indications regarding this. We need to bring it up at each convention and make as much noise as possible.
If we let this drop it will be covered up and happen the next time some crooked politician is running.
We need who actually signed on to this deal so that they can be removed from leadership. The sooner someone digs deeply into this the better.
We are being asked to vote on the local party leadership in each convention we go to - are we unknowingly voting for the crooks and liars?
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Criminals...and the Clintons have done their part for decades.
dchill
(38,489 posts)WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Billionaire industrialist Charles Koch, a key source of financing for conservative Republican causes along with his brother, said Democrat Hillary Clinton might make a better president than the candidates in the Republican field.
Koch, in an interview to air on Sunday on ABCs This Week program, said that in some respects Bill Clinton had been a better president than George W. Bush, who Koch said had increased government spending.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-clinton-president-republicans_us_571c35c5e4b0d912d5fee371
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Duh.
He started two wars.
Koch was playing dumb when he said that. Jeez.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)But still shady as hell and unethical given that our candidate hasn't been settled yet.
This is a prime example of the establishment sustaining itself.
The Democratic Party has done a swan dive into the Republican ethics mire.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)It took Trump to point it out. How degrading.
Clinton is a stain on the Democratic party.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)
Both of them.
There is nothing democratic about the Democratic Party. Shameful.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
dchill
(38,489 posts)No.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)it figures that you would think corruption is "good."
Upside down thinking.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)An alleged non partisan leadership funneling money to destroy the only real liberal running since Carter?
Wonder if you think this is equally good:
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)RATM435
(392 posts)This is just the beginning of the corrupt 3 term of bill clinton i know, i know, tone it down.
George II
(67,782 posts)...to the DNC and lower level DEMOCRATIC candidates.
scottie55
(1,400 posts)Laws are to be laughed at.
Champagne, and caviar anyone?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)to the extent it doesn't conflict with servicing her paying clients. One can always hope.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I support Senator Sanders and agree with those Democratic leaders, like VP Biden, who say we need an alternative to Clinton all the way to the election and perhaps even beyond.
I am not discouraged by Mrs. Clintons win in NY. In fact, the voter suppression going on at the polls in many states is so disgraceful it did encourage me to make another donation to Senator Sanders campaign.
Whats going on in the CBC (DNC,DSC) as it relates to Donna Edwards? Are Clinton supporters trying to influence the outcome of this election? Is she being punished for taking Progressive positions and supporting Senator Sanders campaign? I will donate to Rep. Edwards campaign even though I do not live in Maryland.
Black Lives Matter
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)The Clintons' perpetual anger has been known and accepted for many years.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)The powers that be do not want Bernie, so they are funneling their money to a launderer, who will distribute it not equally to ALL candidates, but to one crooked candidate, who will accept the bribe.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)How can these people turn a blind eye to all of this. Well I guess I've about answered my own question in that the MSM is not reporting this malfeasance. Nada.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)of the DNC.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)deal they need to tell us now. I wonder if members if the party have any right to see the books?
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Will Hillary release the Wall Street transcripts first, or will DWS be the first?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)to hear it before the state conventions. This needs to be a huge issue at state conventions for one big reason. By making this deal the 33 states have taken away our vote.
They are deliberately giving one candidate a huge head start before we ever got to vote and before even one debate was heard. In doing so these state leaders have lost any faith we have placed in them and that is what they deserve.
I would like to see this investigated by a neutral party to find out just exactly how this was accomplished. Is there anyone at the top we can trust? Who in the party knew this was being done? How far down in the party leadership is this reaching?
I am a delegate for Bernie. Have been to the caucus and a convention as well as a committee meeting for the local area. How am I supposed to know who to trust?
And as a delegate I have got to tell you that I am under no illusions that what I am doing at these meetings has anything to do with electing a nominee even though my state went for Bernie.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)instead of doing their jobs to assure all votes are counted. They are part of the problem, looking the other way while this election has been obviously tampered with.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Just a smoke screen.
We're all conspiracy buffs....
As described here....
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)But that's just the cynical Carlinist in me coming out...
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)a comedy that writes itself
Cheers
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)"Nothing to see here Bernie bros"...
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)for internet trolls, there is no shame.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)Taking their feeble "arguments" down...