That debate moment when Rick Lazio guaranteed his loss against Hillary Clinton.

[pnwmom]

[zalinda]

1. That's bull. He never had a chance.

That seat was given to her by Moynihan and his cronies. She was a carpetbagger. She really did nothing for New York STATE. Every thing she did was for New York City, oh wait, she showed up at the state fair every year.

Z

[pnwmom]

2. Millions of NY voters say you are wrong. They reelected her with more than 2/3 of the vote.

And that's funny that you think people who live in NYC aren't real residents of the state. Everyone else thinks they are.

[zalinda]

3. Yes, but not the entire state, I know, because I live in New York.

They reelected her because there was no one else, the DNC made sure of that.

Z

[pnwmom]

4. Wow. In that whole state of millions of people there was no one else. How sad.

[zalinda]

5. Terry McAuliffe made sure there wasn't.

He hosted fund raisers here in CNY for her.

Go crazy.......in his own words.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/lines-from-terry-mcauliffes-book-that-will-make-virginia-v?utm_term=.hyQyvoeEy#.qyaP7ADlP

Tell me how the elections weren't in the bag for Hillary. He was committee chair from 2001–2005.

Z

[pnwmom]

6. And Terry McAuliffe is all-powerful. He held a fundraiser! Wow! n/t

[zalinda]

7. He was the head of the DNC when she was running.

You still don't get it. The DNC prevents candidates from running by blocking them with access to funding and information. Hillary got help from the Moynihan machine. She was a shoe in from the beginning, no one was going to be successful in running against her, with the New York Democratic party machine behind her. This was the reason she moved to New York, she was guaranteed the Senate seat and the publicity to run for President.

I have no idea what your experience is with party politics, but it ain't a pretty picture. It is set up so only a very few can even run much less win. There are plenty of people on this board who have come up against the stone wall of the Democratic Party over the years. It may not be smoke filled rooms any more physically, but those same political machines still are running the show.

Z