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Hillary Clinton Confronted on Coal Comments, Williamson, WV, May 2: 'It Was A Misstatement' (Original Post) appalachiablue May 2016 OP
So where is Bernie on coal, he likes to comment on everything else MattP May 2016 #1
"you’re working in an industry which is helping to cause climate change..." oberliner May 2016 #2
Bernie Sanders, "On the Issues" -- Energy and Oil KansDem May 2016 #3
An excellent summary of Bernie's votes over the year with regards of fossil fuels. Thanks. downeastdaniel May 2016 #10
You're welcome! KansDem May 2016 #13
Bernie's positions on transitioning from fossil fuels to green energy includes replacing jobs lost. appalachiablue May 2016 #5
That is also Hillary's position oberliner May 2016 #12
Except that he means it. eom zalinda May 2016 #25
Here's the link with his position on coal... findrskeep May 2016 #6
Thanks, I was just about to post that info. appalachiablue May 2016 #7
She spun it into a win Geronimoe May 2016 #4
Nobody treats Clinton fairly RoccoR5955 May 2016 #8
She misspeaks a lot. frylock May 2016 #9
How does quoting her become treating her "unfairly"? Can't she defend her own positions? Vincardog May 2016 #11
Maybe she's getting tired of people making her look bad... chwaliszewski May 2016 #15
She sure misspeaks a lot. 840high May 2016 #16
she goes from "who needs mountaintops" to "let 'em take welfare" and pisses WVans off both ways MisterP May 2016 #14
Bill Clinton '..Native American Communities That Have Nothing, Because They Don't Have Gambling.' appalachiablue May 2016 #23
the Clintons have turned the campaign into a Seinfeld episode MisterP May 2016 #24
Gosh, what happened to poster #1? I think he got owned and disappeared. nm floriduck May 2016 #17
Hopefully he read the info. answering his question and left! No. 1's usually are a trip. appalachiablue May 2016 #19
This is an extremely tough issue. JDPriestly May 2016 #18
Yet people still don't trust her. Weird, eh? Scuba May 2016 #20
She didn't say she misspoke, she said it was misstatement EndElectoral May 2016 #21
Gladly will answer your question Geronimoe May 2016 #22
I guess misspoke has been overused d_legendary1 May 2016 #26
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. "you’re working in an industry which is helping to cause climate change..."
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:32 AM
May 2016

...and in fact having a negative impact on the country and world"

Not sure how that message is appealing in coal country.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. Bernie Sanders, "On the Issues" -- Energy and Oil
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:32 AM
May 2016
Need revolution to move away from coal and oil. (Mar 2016)
End fracking in the US. (Mar 2016)
Climate change partly causes rise of terrorist groups. (Nov 2015)
Address climate change so we can leave planet to our kids. (Oct 2015)
Climate change is a moral issue: tax on carbon. (Oct 2015)
Opposed Keystone Pipeline from day one. (Oct 2015)
Combat climate skeptics with overwhelming evidence. (Sep 2015)
Keystone pipeline transports the dirtiest fossil fuel. (Sep 2015)
Charge companies for carbon emissions; then fund renewables. (Apr 2015)
Transform to sustainable system & away from fossil fuels. (Mar 2015)
Weatherize millions of homes and buildings. (Jan 2015)
Gas tax increases are regressive. (Jun 1997)
Voted NO on barring EPA from regulating greenhouse gases. (Apr 2011)
Voted NO on protecting middle-income taxpayers from a national energy tax. (Apr 2009)
Voted NO on requiring full Senate debate and vote on cap-and-trade. (Apr 2009)
Voted YES on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (Jun 2008)
Voted YES on addressing CO2 emissions without considering India & China. (May 2008)
Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on making oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
Voted YES on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on authorizing construction of new oil refineries. (Oct 2005)
Voted NO on passage of the Bush Administration national energy policy. (Jun 2004)
Voted NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. (Nov 2003)
Voted YES on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)
Voted YES on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001)
Voted YES on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000)
Regulate wholesale electricity & gas prices. (Mar 2001)
Preserve Alaska's ANWR instead of drilling it. (Feb 2001)
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances. (Feb 2005)
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)
Sign on to UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. (Jan 2007)
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness. (Nov 2007)
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025. (Jan 2007)
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards. (Jan 2008)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Bernie_Sanders.htm


Hope this helps!

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
5. Bernie's positions on transitioning from fossil fuels to green energy includes replacing jobs lost.
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:40 AM
May 2016

WaPo."That question could vex Sanders just as much as Clinton. In his energy talking points, Sanders notes that he “introduced the gold standard for climate-change legislation with Sen. Barbara Boxer to tax carbon and methane emissions,” a résumé item that would be about as welcome in West Virginia as a University of Maryland Terps jersey. Asked what he would say to a coal miner who blames Environmental Protection Agency regulations for the loss of his job, Sanders said he could only be straight with him.

“What we have to say is, ‘Look, through no fault of your own, you’re working in an industry which is helping to cause climate change and in fact having a negative impact on the country and world,’?” Sanders said. “What the government does have is an obligation to say: ‘We’ll protect you financially as we transition away from fossil fuel. We are going to create jobs in your community, extended unemployment benefits. If you lose your job to a trade deal, you get benefits for two years. You get job training.’ I would take that same approach to energy jobs that are lost because of the threat of climate change.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-rural-america-a-startling-prospect-voters-obama-lost-look-to-sanders/2015/10/04/5465ce22-6883-11e5-8325-a42b5a459b1e_story.html

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
4. She spun it into a win
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:34 AM
May 2016

She misspoke and is now treated unfairly. Regardless she'll fight for everyday folks.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
8. Nobody treats Clinton fairly
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:56 AM
May 2016

They should just leave her alone and let her get coronated queen already.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
23. Bill Clinton '..Native American Communities That Have Nothing, Because They Don't Have Gambling.'
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016


Also strange.


Bill Clinton Draws Boos from Sanders, Trump Supporters in WV (At Bill's Rally, Logan, WV, May 1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1434454

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. This is an extremely tough issue.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

How does Clinton propose to create those jobs and develop the economies in coal country without raising taxes on a lot of her donors?

That's the question.

Coal is going to be phased out no matter who gets in the White House. It's already been phased out a lot. It is unhealthy not just for the people who live near coal -burning power plants but most of all for the people who mine the coal.

I know someone who was a pastor in a church in coal country many years ago. The coal company offered a pension to its workers but not to their widows. He used to point out that he had so many extremely impoverished widows in his church because of the coal company's pension policy. Many coal miners did not live long enough to collect their pensions because of the terrible damage to their health due to their work, and the coal companies left the widows with no pensions and no hope and no husbands.

Anyone who has ever traveled in the Appalachians in coal country knows that used to be (when I was a child in the 1950s) a beautiful, beautiful area. People who live there often don't want to leave.

This is going to be a big problem no matter who is in the White House.

The best thing for people from West Virginia to do is to vote for a candidate who has real compassion. Because most Americans need to be alerted to how wonderful that part of the country is and how much it needs investment so that it can change from coal mining to some other economic base.

I think Bernie Sanders is the candidate most likely to care about and help the coal miners.

West Virginia -- just such a beautiful place with beautiful people.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
21. She didn't say she misspoke, she said it was misstatement
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

Defintion of misstatement - to state incorrectly : give a false account of

So what is she saying here?

Misspoke means to express oneself insufficiently clearly or accurately.

...

Her answer on that video is the most convuluted answer I have ever heard in my life. So can someone tell me what the hell her position on this issue is?

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
22. Gladly will answer your question
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

On this issue as well as all issues, Hillary's position is evolving.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
26. I guess misspoke has been overused
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:59 PM
May 2016

so she has to switch it up to misstatement? Looks like she truly is evolving.

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