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Bernie Sanders: We have a path to victory CNN (Original Post) Donkees May 2016 OP
Nope. nt onehandle May 2016 #1
Two minute response. Bravo. Childish but if that is what you think is important, go for it. rhett o rick May 2016 #15
Yep. nt tomm2thumbs May 2016 #2
Delusional Gomez163 May 2016 #3
Wow you've been here all of one month. rhett o rick May 2016 #16
No way Dems can take the chance of a Trump Presidency; they will HAVE to go with Bernie! zebonaut May 2016 #4
Bernie will endorse Hillary at the convention redstateblues May 2016 #5
won't even bother to vote? Skittles May 2016 #9
Well that there is the problem. zeemike May 2016 #11
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Skittles May 2016 #12
Well not voting is a vote of no confidence. zeemike May 2016 #14
Fingers in ears, la la la Ned_Devine May 2016 #6
I am beginning to think there madaboutharry May 2016 #7
you're just now noticing? Skittles May 2016 #10
What do you make an hour? Or are you on salary? If young, can you afford college... Peace Patriot May 2016 #17
Congratulations Bernie! ReRe May 2016 #8
Indeed. Congratulations to Bernie OwlinAZ May 2016 #13
Bernie. You do have a path to victory, and it goes through California. JDPriestly May 2016 #18
No he doesn't. Your link says Hillary has 2202 delegates, Sanders has 1400; 2382 are needed to win. SunSeeker May 2016 #19
Let's see how he does. +31 in California is not even 10% of the votes. He could easily win by JDPriestly May 2016 #20
According to your own link, Hillary only needs 180 more delegates to win. SunSeeker May 2016 #21
 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
4. No way Dems can take the chance of a Trump Presidency; they will HAVE to go with Bernie!
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:23 PM
May 2016

Trump will CRUSH Hillary Clinton

And many Bernie Supporters won't even bother to vote!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
11. Well that there is the problem.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:02 AM
May 2016

Willing to write people off with a fuck you.

No wonder the democratic party is shrinking.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
12. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:12 AM
May 2016

they won't vote, then they'll blame (insert target here) for losing

f*** them

OVER AND OUT

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
14. Well not voting is a vote of no confidence.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:22 AM
May 2016

It is just saying that they don't want either one offered.
The problem is not them it is the ones running.,,don't blame the voter (victim).

madaboutharry

(40,199 posts)
7. I am beginning to think there
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:27 PM
May 2016

is something wrong with him. He is such a downer. He is always angry. He's depressing.

On top of that, he knows simple math and he knows he can't win.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
17. What do you make an hour? Or are you on salary? If young, can you afford college...
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:45 AM
May 2016

...without going deeply into debt? You live in a nice house, a nice condo, a nice apartment? Buy news cars? Eat well? Do your friends and family members have good paying jobs, good benefits, doing well? Do you have good child care (if you have kids and are working)? If you have elderly parents, are they well and prospering, or, if not, do you have to care for them yourself because there is no money for care? Can you afford a vacation, or a recuperation trip to a day spa?

Bernie is not a "downer." He's speaking for millions of Americans who don't have these things. For them, life is one downer after another. Many have been kicked to curb by massive job cuts or corporate outsourcing, while CEOs make millions, or kicked to the curb by war or other misfortune, while the makers of war and misfortune prosper. He's trying to lift those who are suffering because of the greed of the few and who have no representation in government. Even if they vote, they have no representation, because the billionaires and war profiteers who are running things couldn't care less about the welfare of ordinary Americans.

Bernie's message is NOT a "downer" to the have-nots. But I'm sure it can be a "downer" to those who are doing well and don't want to think about those who are not.

Your "take" on Sanders (angry? a downer? depressing?) doesn't seem to have any meaning to the tens of thousands of people who attend his campaign rallies. They don't look angry. They don't look down. They don't look depressed. They approve of what they are hearing and cheer it on. They are uplifted by it. So you are missing something.

 

OwlinAZ

(410 posts)
13. Indeed. Congratulations to Bernie
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:14 AM
May 2016

and thanks to all who voted for him and worked for his campaign. Pay no attention to the angry naysayers.
This country has a path back to glory. I have real hope for us all.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Bernie. You do have a path to victory, and it goes through California.
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:16 AM
May 2016

Today, wearing my Bernie teeshirt, I took my voter registration cards, a clipboard and some pens and went for a walk in my neighborhood in Los Angeles.

I asked everyone if they wanted to register to vote and if they supported Bernie. OK. It's my neighborhood, very far from Beverly Hills in every sense, but I have wonderful neighbors. I love them.

The happy looks on people's faces when they told me they are voting for Bernie and yes, they are registered as Democrats so they can vote for him were beautiful to see.

Hillary needs to relax and let Oregon, Kentucky, Puerto Rico, California, Guam and all states that have yet to vote vote.

Oregon and California are two of the most liberal states in the nation. It is no coincidence that we are very liberal and the last to vote. It's how the system is rigged. And I will mention that to voters as I walk for Bernie.

Let us vote.

And Bernie is right to do everything he can to get the nomination.
Hillary has so many negatives in poll after poll. Her supporters adore her, but unfortunately their numbers are probably not large enough to win the nation.

Trump is running up a lot of votes across the country.

Hillary will have a hard time against Trump, especially on the issues of trade and jobs. Bernie will have an easier time against Trump because Bernie will be able to focus on issues that Trump is weak on, and they are many.

It's going to be a tough fight in November if Trump really does turn out to be the candidate.

Bernie needs 290 pledged delegates to catch up with Clinton.

California and Oregon combined have 536 delegates, and there are other states that I have not yet mentioned that have not yet voted.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

Feel the Bern!

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
19. No he doesn't. Your link says Hillary has 2202 delegates, Sanders has 1400; 2382 are needed to win.
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:03 AM
May 2016

Tonight he won Indiana by just 5 percentage points, in a open primary tailor made for him, after spending $1.8+ million in ads and Hillary did not spend a penny. He needed to win by a lot more.

Even after Sanders nets +5 delegates vs. Hillary tonight, in order to go into the convention with more pledged delegates (ignoring that Clinton will already have more total delegates to lock the nomination on the first ballot), Sanders would need to win the following contests by the margins indicated:

Guam: Sanders +43
West Virginia: Sanders +52
Kentucky: Sanders +35
Oregon: Sanders +57
Virgin Islands: Sanders +43
Puerto Rico: Sanders +17
California: Sanders +31
Montana: Sanders +62
New Jersey: Sanders +13
New Mexico: Sanders +18
South Dakota: Sanders +40
North Dakota: Sanders +67
District of Columbia: Tie

Sanders' IN win still puts him further behind pace than he was yesterday.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. Let's see how he does. +31 in California is not even 10% of the votes. He could easily win by
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:08 AM
May 2016

more than that here. Montana and the Dakotas too. Oregon. Bernie will win by large margins in the Portland area.

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
21. According to your own link, Hillary only needs 180 more delegates to win.
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:16 AM
May 2016

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And those spreads I list are the numbers Nate Silver et al. calculated that Sanders would have to win the vote by in order to get the necessary number of delegates to be on track for a majority. Since the delegates aren't awarded strictly proportionately but by precinct or district, if the vote is even moderately close, then the delegate count will be nearly tied.

Indiana is overwhelmingly white. Sanders won, but barely. Given the former, the latter was, at this point in the race, absolutely predicable. Right on the regression line.

Moreover, because Sanders needed to do better than a near-tie, he would now need to get 70% rather than 66% of the remaining votes, to tie — not win, tie — in the pledged delegate races. I emphasize: Sanders is in worse shape than he was in yesterday.

And CA is 39% white. Sanders is not going to get 70% of the remaining votes.

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