Clinton's Victory Fund Gives Very Little for Down Ticket Dems

[amborin]

[SheilaT]

1. I heard about this from Amy Goodman this morning.

And to think that her supporters keep on bragging about how much money she's raised for other Dems.

If it's not the hypocrisy, it's the lack of truth telling.

[Baobab]

35. The scheme is basically money laundering - Hillary is a piece of work

to criticize Bernie under these circumstances.

[Bodych]

2. And a DU person just labeled Sanders' crowds...

...as "gullible".

Oh the comedy of it all. Too bad none of it is amusing.

[zentrum]

3. George Clooney

…….and Amal were played. His public explanation for his high end dinner was to help the entire party. But less than 1% of her 61M has gone down ticket.

How naive can a savvy movie star/producer and an international lawyer be?

[jwirr]

7. There is a Bernie supporter pac to help down ticket candidates.

Maybe Clooney can talk to Bernie about how he can help candidates who are progressive candidates. You know kind of make it up to the party left.

[SunSeeker]

14. Got a link? All Sanders has done is invite supporters to donate to 3 fringe candidates via ActBlue.

Meanwhile, Hillary has raised $26 million for downticket Dems in 2015 and is on track to raise $40 million for downticket Dems in 2016.


http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/4/14/like-night-and-day-comparing-bernie-sanders-down-ballot-fundraising-to-that-of-hillary-clinton

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-progressives-fundraising-221887

[geardaddy]

17. Forty bucks?

Wow!

[SunSeeker]

19. No, $40 million.

How much has Sanders raised for downticket Dems?

[Baobab]

36. Is that pre-money laundering or post?

1% actually got donated to the candidates as i understood it on TYT.

The laundering was a scheme to get around campaign finance laws.

[SunSeeker]

12. It's the other way around. Only 1% of the Clooney fundraiser money went to Hillary.

In the case of the California fundraisers, Schwerin said, "Because the vast majority of guests at these events had already contributed $2,700 to Hillary for America, only about 1 percent of the proceeds for these events ended up being allocated to HFA. The rest go to the DNC and 32 state parties across the country to help elect Democrats up and down the ballot, including local and statewide candidates."

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/apr/17/george-clooney/george-clooney-decries-big-money-politics-says-mos/

[Bodych]

15. FOUL! At the top of your link is this para...

"Editor's note, May 2, 2016: We are currently reviewing this fact-check after a report from Politico raised questions about how funds raised by the Hillary Victory Fund are shared with state parties. We will update this fact-check when our review process and additional reporting are complete."

How did you miss it?

[SunSeeker]

18. But no one has proven it wrong. And what amount has Sanders raised for downticket Dems?

All he has done is invite supporters to donate to three fringe candidates who have endorsed him. At least one of those candidates will also be helped by DNC money raised by Clinton.


http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/4/14/like-night-and-day-comparing-bernie-sanders-down-ballot-fundraising-to-that-of-hillary-clinton

[Bodych]

20. You are flat out disingenuous. This is serious; you're not.

[SunSeeker]

21. I see you have nothing of substance to add. nt

[Loudestlib]

24. Don't bother some people can't admit it when they are wrong.

We can all see that they are wrong.

[Loudestlib]

22. "But no one has proven it wrong."

LOL ok.

[stonecutter357]

4. seems legit !

[Old Crow]

6. If you're referring to John Iadarola's report...

... yes, it does seem legitimate, seeing as it's based on an analysis of the latest Federal Election Committee filings.

On the other hand, if you're referring to the Clinton Victory Fund, no, it doesn't seem legitimate, seeing as the movement of funds resembles a shell game and is in direct contradiction to the oft-repeated talking point that Hillary Clinton has been raising large sums of money for down-ticket Democrats. Then again, maybe you were being sarcastic.

[Old Crow]

5. It's a shell game. Move the money, move the money, move the money...

... did you lose track of where the money came from and where it went? Good! That's the plan.

This is so typical of the Clintons that it's hard to feel surprise at the revelation.

[lastone]

8. and yet hrc fans will bury their head in the sand on this

or come up w/some bullshit excuse for it, shes not really a dem in my book, her record speaks for itself and knowing donnie boy will throw more than the kitchen sink at her it's no wonder Sanders polls so much better against trump.

[RoccoR5955]

9. Gee, and all those Clinton supporters told me

That Bernie was doing this. I wonder how they feel now that their candidate is now doing this. Perhaps she is parroting Bernie again?

[SoapBox]

10. Come on Hill...

Cough up the money.

[stupidicus]

11. well they are like their rightwing cousins in many ways non-political too

this is the second story in as many days that thoroughly debunks their BS (the other here http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/29/bernie-sanders-withdraws-lawsuit-dnc-proven-correct-data-breach.html) which will result in their acting like it never happened...

[SunSeeker]

16. You're linking to an opinion piece that mistates the DNC statement.

The DNC investigation actually found that Sanders staff exported data. Why else would Sanders dismiss his lawsuit? His lawsuit asked for millions in damages. The DNC did not pay him any damages.

But none of that has anything to do with the issue raised in the OP.

[stupidicus]

25. and I should care what they alleged they found why?

The independent investigation found that Sanders didn’t steal any data, had no access to the Clinton campaign’s strategy or data, and did nothing wrong.

Of course it has nothing "directly" to do with the OP, and serves as what it was intended to -- Hillarians making a fed case outta bs they inevitably wind up wearing as they now do the "he stole data" turd.

[SunSeeker]

31. Well, if you don't care about facts then I guess you don't care what the investigation found.

A Sanders staffer was absolutely found to have exported data. Three other staffers were also involved and accessed Clinton data but "only" moved it to their personal folders within the same DNC system. And the investigation explicitly found that neither the Clinton nor the O'Malley campaigns accessed other campaign's data, let alone exported it.

THAT is why Sanders quietly dismissed his suit "with prejudice." Because the independent investigation that he called for found his campaign had done what the DNC suspected.

[stupidicus]

32. learn to read

beyond a second grade level, no?

What is it about

An independent investigation of the firewall failures in the DNC’s shared voter file database has definitively confirmed that the original claims by the DNC and the Clinton campaign were wholly inaccurate – the Sanders campaign never “stole” any voter file data; the Sanders campaign never “exported” any unauthorized voter file data; and the Sanders campaign certainly never had access to the Clinton campaign’s “strategic road map.”

that you don't understand?

Oh that's right, you obviously either lack sufficient mental acuity to resolve the "voter data" that led to the "trying to steal her voters" bs charge with the "While there is evidence that the terminated staffer may have exported a

summary data

table" onto the distinct things that they are, or are lacking in the intellectual integrity required to admit they are two different things, in real terms and in potential value to both campaigns.

so which is it you suffer from -- ignorance or dishonesty, because all "data" is not created not does it continue to exist as equals, and it was the alleged/possible voter data theft that got the knickers in a wad, as well as the idea that he was personally involved -- both of which have been disproven.

so run along eh.

[SunSeeker]

33. You are reading from an opinion piece which is not quoting the findings.

What I stated is fact. Why else would Sanders dismiss his complaint with prejudice--a complainst that demanded millions from the DNC?

[frylock]

13. ..

[Uncle Joe]

23. Laundering money made easy.

Thanks for the thread, amborin.

[Phlem]

26. Fucking, idiocracy, the playbook.

watching them getting played and watching them play each other.

And then they try and play us.

The fucking nerve.

[4139]

27. It like the Clinton Foundation, big money for big salaries, travel, parties, but little for charity

[elfin]

28. Giving to the ones I care about individually

Refuse to let DWS get her mitts on it.

[Hoyt]

29. The headline is quite misleading; but whatever, Clinton is helping other Dems more than Sanders.

[FailureToCommunicate]

30. Bull. You didn't listen to the report did you. Or perhaps have your head in the sand?

We're pretty tired of hearing how only Hillary has helped the Democratic Party.

The millions from Wall Street have really bolstered the down ticket races right?

[George II]

37. Not true, but whatever.