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Bernie Sanders Finger-wag Super Cut (Original Post) pnwmom May 2016 OP
Its the Pinocchio finger@ riversedge May 2016 #1
Can't wait to see the video of Hillary's cackle laugh. JDPriestly May 2016 #15
Actually, to draw zentrum May 2016 #20
He was polite - I would 840high May 2016 #25
She was way over her time and not relenting. I watched it. She was hogging all the bkkyosemite May 2016 #52
Yep. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #54
^^This^^ zentrum May 2016 #73
Did he want to say something or did he have to go to the bathroom? George II May 2016 #2
Sigh.... nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #55
Colbert looked into Bernie's finger pointing prowess last night Mnpaul May 2016 #3
That was fun! progressoid May 2016 #23
Bubble Burst Bernie - treestar May 2016 #77
Bernie is tough to watch. redstateblues May 2016 #4
Imagine trying to have a serious debate and while it's your turn to talk, your opponent, pnwmom May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton May 2016 #8
Bernie was being polite. Did you watch Hillary's hands, her thumbs bouncing up and down JDPriestly May 2016 #17
I know this is supposed to be funny but ... ciaobaby May 2016 #6
Her voice isn't an attack on him. Look at the second picture in the second link, pnwmom May 2016 #7
You're joking, right? AlbertCat May 2016 #47
Really. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #56
Could it be..... Bangbangdem May 2016 #71
Pathological Bangbangdem May 2016 #50
you mean like this? azurnoir May 2016 #9
Thank you ! Enough said. ciaobaby May 2016 #10
Thanks for reminding me. pnwmom May 2016 #12
Ummmmm.. That's Sarandon, not Hillary. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #58
The high mark of public finger rage. Couldn't find Bill with Jerry Brown Debate, so this, appalachiablue May 2016 #14
Thanks. Hillary is the fingerprinting angry person. JDPriestly May 2016 #18
Bernie got 3 Pinocchios for that lie redstateblues May 2016 #32
Wait Bangbangdem May 2016 #51
This topic is soooooo elmac May 2016 #11
I'm finally putting someone on ignore. Never thought I would. vanlassie May 2016 #13
Yeah, some times you just have to Ned_Devine May 2016 #16
You won't miss much Scootaloo May 2016 #28
Really? Can you imagine what Donald Trump would do or say every time she lies? Ned_Devine May 2016 #19
Every word out of Trump's mouth is a lie. And anything he "does" to Hillary will just pnwmom May 2016 #21
I love your dream world Ned_Devine May 2016 #22
He was putting his finger up AND wagging it back and forth. Over and over again. pnwmom May 2016 #24
I watched the debate and that's not what happened. Ned_Devine May 2016 #26
There were eight debates and hundreds of wags and waves. pnwmom May 2016 #35
Just so you know, lots of women HATE Hillary Ned_Devine May 2016 #37
And yet the large gender gap is in Hillary's favor, so obviously most women don't feel pnwmom May 2016 #43
I'll finish this like I started it; I love your dream world Ned_Devine May 2016 #48
Old white female against Hillary here! nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #60
+1 chwaliszewski May 2016 #42
Stop it. You're 840high May 2016 #27
Un rec. Yes, just stop. You really are embarrassing yourself. FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #34
Trump Will Bring Up Hillary Things No One Dared billhicks76 May 2016 #45
Good luck on that. He has QUITE a history himself, including his own pnwmom May 2016 #46
Kidding, right? SusanCalvin May 2016 #61
I didn't say it will stop him. But it will put any attacks on Hillary into proper context. pnwmom May 2016 #64
His history is just as eventful as Bill's. -oops,sorry SusanCalvin May 2016 #65
Correct. I'm talking about Trump. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #67
Just Hope It Doesn't Bring Up How Hillary Treated Bill's Accusers billhicks76 May 2016 #69
Which one are you talking about? The one who still says their relations were entirely consensual, pnwmom May 2016 #72
Ones From Early 80s billhicks76 May 2016 #74
That doesn't answer the question. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #75
Agreed...Two Pees In A Pod billhicks76 May 2016 #66
Spot on. Old Crow May 2016 #29
. SusanCalvin May 2016 #62
Anything is better than Hill's "Scold-Mode". SoapBox May 2016 #30
Wow! Another entire thread based on projection! dchill May 2016 #31
Nailed it! redstateblues May 2016 #33
And the twelve million people who voted for Hillary. nt pnwmom May 2016 #36
Wow! I stand castigated! dchill May 2016 #49
Oh good grief. SusanCalvin May 2016 #63
Finger wagging, really? Geronimoe May 2016 #38
Fresh take. frylock May 2016 #39
Finger wagging is far worse FuzzyRabbit May 2016 #40
Welcome to my ignore list. mac56 May 2016 #41
Thank you. pnwmom May 2016 #44
If this is all you got.... nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #53
This, plus 12 million votes and 1700 pledged delegates. pnwmom May 2016 #57
And you think this tone is going to attract Bernie supporters how..? SusanCalvin May 2016 #59
At this point, after all the trashing I've seen of Hillary here, I don't much care. pnwmom May 2016 #68
Back atcha and your ilk. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #70
YEAH! Beethoven1111 May 2016 #76
You know what the beautiful thing about this BlueMTexpat May 2016 #78

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. Can't wait to see the video of Hillary's cackle laugh.
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:42 PM
May 2016

Seriously, in each instance, Bernie was raising his hand to get the attention of the questioners to say that he had a point to make. He was being polite.

Did you notice that in most of the instances, Hillary had one or both of her thumbs moving up and sometimes down again and occasionally over and over and the back or in a couple of cases, the palm of her hand pointed to the audience.

I know this video is supposed to make Bernie look bad, but it actually just makes Hillary look angry and bossy.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
20. Actually, to draw
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:50 PM
May 2016

…attention to how she twists his words and/or goes over the allotted time, it was the most polite thing he could do.

Speaking as a woman I loathe it when the faux-feminist victim card is played.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
52. She was way over her time and not relenting. I watched it. She was hogging all the
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:45 AM
May 2016

time and they were not calling her on it.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
3. Colbert looked into Bernie's finger pointing prowess last night
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016
?t=2m15s

There is also a game you can play on his CBS site

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
5. Imagine trying to have a serious debate and while it's your turn to talk, your opponent,
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:42 PM
May 2016

a few feet away, is waving his arms around and wagging his fingers. I would have needed to wear blinders, but Hillary kept her cool.

Response to redstateblues (Reply #4)

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
17. Bernie was being polite. Did you watch Hillary's hands, her thumbs bouncing up and down
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:45 PM
May 2016

and the back of her hand facing the audience bouncing up and down.

She sounded angry in every clip.

Bernie was being polite in that he was signaling the questioners that he wanted to respond to her statement.

Can't wait for the video clips of Hillary's smirks and cackle laughs.

Bernie is too much of a gentleman to make such a video.

I'm sure Trump will mock her for that. She is very sensitive and easily angered. She pouts, and Trump is going to play that up like everything.

If there is one thing that Hillary is not, it is gracious.

 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
6. I know this is supposed to be funny but ...
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

if someone posted a video of HRC with emphasis on her most irritating voice, which, Like Bernie'S finger wagging, is an unfortunate part of her "self", all the Hillary team would be screaming "SEXISM".
Now can we get back to what really matters ?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
7. Her voice isn't an attack on him. Look at the second picture in the second link,
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:07 PM
May 2016

where he's extended his wagging finger to within inches of her face.

His scolding finger wagging isn't a part of his "self." It's a masculine display, aimed at the woman standing next to him.

When he was talking, she usually just stood there and listened. When she was talking, he rolled his eyes, made faces, and practically jumped out of his skin, waving his arms and wagging his fingers. He kept trying to get the attention of the moderator even though there was no other candidate in the debate; he would automatically get the next turn and he didn't need to wave his finger around to claim it.

Imagine you're trying to give a well-considered response and a few feet away from you, within your peripheral vision, your opponent is putting on a distracting show like that. I'd need to wear blinders. I don't know how Hillary did it.

ON EDIT: A fair comparison would be of his voice to her voice. And I don't see him winning that competition. His voice is no more pleasant than hers.

 

Bangbangdem

(140 posts)
71. Could it be.....
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:44 AM
May 2016

Kindve been going round and round with this user. I think more and more that this person is a plant. The million dollar social media disinformation blitz that the clinton campaign had to admit to? Wait, let me get my tin foil hat on.... this is a con.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. you mean like this?
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016


the young woman Hillary accosted was a GreenPeace activist not Bernie Sanders -ooops

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Thanks. Hillary is the fingerprinting angry person.
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

Bernie was just trying to raise his hand so that he could respond to Hillary.

 

Bangbangdem

(140 posts)
51. Wait
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:40 AM
May 2016

She hasn't taken any cash from the petrol industry?
Bwahahahaha!
I look forward to your spirited response.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
16. Yeah, some times you just have to
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:45 PM
May 2016

Many of these people just suck. Forget about having an actual conversation or debate...unless all you want are rolling smiley faces, gifs of people rolling their eyes or "she's the most qualified." That's all you'll get from them...oh, and fake bullshit outrage.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
19. Really? Can you imagine what Donald Trump would do or say every time she lies?
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:48 PM
May 2016

A finger wag? It's a polite way of telling the moderators "Hey, this person is full of shit. Can I get a chance to rebut, or is she just going to filibuster all night?"

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
21. Every word out of Trump's mouth is a lie. And anything he "does" to Hillary will just
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016

make women loathe him even more.

But what Bernie did wasn't polite. There were no other competitors on the stage. He was going to automatically get his turn. He didn't need to wave his arms around and wag his fingers to get it, like the little boy at the front of the class, waving his arm around for the teacher to call on him.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
22. I love your dream world
Fri May 6, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

Interrupting, the way Hillary did while he was making his case was rude. Putting your finger up to get the moderator's attention is the polite thing...just maybe not in your world where grass is blue and the sky is green.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
24. He was putting his finger up AND wagging it back and forth. Over and over again.
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:00 PM
May 2016

And he threw his hand out to within inches of Hillary's face. Not okay.

And there was no reason for him to get the moderator's attention. The moderator knew what she was doing, and was going to give Bernie his turn. He didn't have to wave around while Hillary was talking.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
26. I watched the debate and that's not what happened.
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:10 PM
May 2016

I remember thinking, "how long is she going to get to filibuster and lie before he gets a word in edgewise?" That, to me, was not okay.

You're obviously a HRC supporter and I'm obviously not. I see what you're doing as totally manufactured outrage and you see it as legit. I'll come right out and admit that I will never vote for Hillary in a million years. She ran a racist campaign against Obama in '08 and to me is just the most inauthentic flawed and conservative candidate the democrats could have pushed on us. I live in MA, so I can vote for Jill Stein and not feel like I have to hold my nose to vote for her. You see her differently and that's your thing.

Normally I'll let a post like yours just slide, but the montage of finger wags as some sort of earth shattering affront to all women was just a bridge too far. If I had been in that debate, I would have lost my cool and told the moderators "She's lying!! Can I finally say something?!"

Just wait until she has to debate Trump. You'll miss those polite finger wags while he eviscerates her.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
35. There were eight debates and hundreds of wags and waves.
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:21 PM
May 2016

If you wonder why there is such a large gender gap, this is part of the reason. He and his supporters have a huge blind spot with regard to women. It goes along with him having no women among his top ten advisors. Not one.

Trump won't be a problem in a debate with Hillary. He'll make a complete fool of himself. Blustering and sputtering insults won't scare her, as it did his Rethug opponents.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
37. Just so you know, lots of women HATE Hillary
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:25 PM
May 2016

In fact, I talk to more women than men that absolutely can't stand her and wouldn't vote for her in a million years. So you can enjoy that gender gap meme and hang on to it when she loses in the GE if she makes it that far.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
43. And yet the large gender gap is in Hillary's favor, so obviously most women don't feel
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:51 PM
May 2016

like your friends. They aren't representative of the voters.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
45. Trump Will Bring Up Hillary Things No One Dared
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

It's all going to be about Bill and his womanizing and partying. Watch.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
46. Good luck on that. He has QUITE a history himself, including his own
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:55 PM
May 2016

1997 rape lawsuit.

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/exclusive-inside-the-donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuit/

There has been much talk of late about Donald Trump and the law. In addition to his regular threats to sue Ted Cruz, LawNewz.com discovered Trump has been named as a plaintiff and defendant in at least 169 different federal lawsuits. Some of the cases have been resolved, a few dismissed as frivolous, others privately settled. In the context of that research, we found one that was particularly interesting, even scandalous. So we did some further digging and obtained an exclusive copy of the $125 million lawsuit filed in 1997, which had been buried deep in a federal archive warehouse in Kansas City, Missouri. The case has almost never been reported on, and the shocking allegations just seemed to suddenly vanish in an era before the widespread availability of the internet.

The lawsuit was filed by Jill Harth who then went by Jill Harth Houraney on April 25, 1997. Harth, who was in her early 30’s at the time, alleged that Trump engaged in hostile and offensive sexual behavior towards her from 1992 to 1997 including “groping” her under her dress on several occasions, “forcibly” moving her to his daughter’s bedroom in an attempt to have sex with her, and repeatedly, aggressively and inappropriately propositioning her for sex. She called it “sexually abusive” and LawNewz.com spoke to her in an exclusive interview.




And his ex-wife's claim that he physically assaulted her and raped her.

And his lawyer's excuse that marital rape wasn't a crime.

How many people has Hillary been accused of raping?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
64. I didn't say it will stop him. But it will put any attacks on Hillary into proper context.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:25 AM
May 2016

His history is just as eventful as Bill's.

And Bill isn't the one running for President.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
65. His history is just as eventful as Bill's. -oops,sorry
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:27 AM
May 2016

Conflated with Bernie.

Trump, I'd guess you're right.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
69. Just Hope It Doesn't Bring Up How Hillary Treated Bill's Accusers
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:36 AM
May 2016

Most of that wasn't pertinent to the public when Bill ran for office. Now we have social media and the 24/7 news cycle...AND it's Trump setting the agenda this time not the networks.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
72. Which one are you talking about? The one who still says their relations were entirely consensual,
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:04 AM
May 2016

or the one who swore in a deposition that nothing happened?

And what was this terrible thing that Hillary did, other than not divorcing Bill?

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
29. Spot on.
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:12 PM
May 2016

It wasn't so much a finger-wag as a cry for help: "Holy moley, she's just letting loose a torrent of half-truths and distortions and there's no end to her yakking in sight. Moderators? Hello?!"

Oh, that and he also wanted the waiter to know he was ready for his check.

dchill

(38,472 posts)
31. Wow! Another entire thread based on projection!
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:13 PM
May 2016

Congrats! The only ones buying this are already inmates at the echo chamber.

dchill

(38,472 posts)
49. Wow! I stand castigated!
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:29 AM
May 2016

By the 12 million people who approve of your silly thread about finger wagging! I'm sure you have your finger on the motivation of all those millions.

If only he hadn't wagged his finger, we wouldn't be headed to a short, bleak future of perpetual war, fossil fuel and even filthier filthy rich. And all without universal health care.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
63. Oh good grief.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:18 AM
May 2016

As if you think stating that over and will change future events.

But seeing as you are a Hillary supporter, yes do please go on wasting your time!

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
40. Finger wagging is far worse
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

than selling yourself to Goldman Sachs and the other big banks for $250,000 for a 20 minute speech, right?

Assuming Clinton is elected President, you will quickly learn that her loyalties lie with the wealthiest of the 1%, not with you or me.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
59. And you think this tone is going to attract Bernie supporters how..?
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:03 AM
May 2016

Oh right - y'all don't need 'em. Oooookaaaaay.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
68. At this point, after all the trashing I've seen of Hillary here, I don't much care.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:35 AM
May 2016


This is NOTHING compared to the lies I see here about Hillary every day.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
78. You know what the beautiful thing about this
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

thread is for me?

It says that there are 77 replies and I can only see 16. Ignore List works.

They can say what they want and they will. I just don't have to put up with it any more and am MUCH happier for that.

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