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George Takei: Vote blue no matter who (Original Post) Amimnoch May 2016 OP
Star Trek was great... scscholar May 2016 #1
Hmm, isn't that about how long ago Bernie's Amimnoch May 2016 #7
I think I just got Berned scscholar May 2016 #9
Nah not really. Amimnoch May 2016 #10
Huh? Asshole thing to say about the great Takei Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #15
George I love you and Brad but absolutely not. Biaviians May 2016 #2
.+1 840high May 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles May 2016 #5
Voting blue got internment camps. OnyxCollie May 2016 #19
You do know that Buzz cook May 2016 #21
It's not a joke. OnyxCollie May 2016 #25
Yes a bad joke Buzz cook May 2016 #28
Which party *had* internment camps? OnyxCollie May 2016 #29
"Had" spanky Buzz cook May 2016 #30
You missed the point, genius. OnyxCollie May 2016 #31
Now you're trying to teach history? Buzz cook May 2016 #32
OMIGOSH, YOU GOT ME! OnyxCollie May 2016 #33
No more voting Blue No Matter Who Silver_Witch May 2016 #4
And what does that mean? Cary May 2016 #6
Code for voting for the Dem nominee not for Trump. brush May 2016 #8
Silver Witch said something else Cary May 2016 #11
So she did. I only explained what "vote blue no matter who" means. brush May 2016 #13
Listening to Trump talking about debt, Cary May 2016 #14
Bernie Or Bust For This Citizen cantbeserious May 2016 #12
+1 nt chknltl May 2016 #16
+2 chwaliszewski May 2016 #20
I'm in jhart3333 May 2016 #22
Count me in as well TrueDemVA May 2016 #26
Next time you hear "vote blue no matter who " retrowire May 2016 #17
Easy for you to say at 79 Cassiopeia May 2016 #18
Bottom line Wibly May 2016 #23
No Can Do, Family Values Says Vote Sanders McKim May 2016 #24
Ahhh George, you live in fantasy land. oldandhappy May 2016 #27
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
10. Nah not really.
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:48 PM
May 2016

Just a jest. I actually hold him in very high esteem for his early activism, and would never seriously denigrate it.

Response to 840high (Reply #3)

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
25. It's not a joke.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:33 AM
May 2016

"Voting blue" meant voting for anti-Asian planks in the Democratic platform. (Anti-Asian sentiment was expressed by both parties, actually.) When the Japanese were interned, the White House and both houses of Congress were "blue."

Japanese Americans wouldn't have the chance to "vote blue" until 1952.

The internment was no more a military necessity than the threat of Saddam's WMD. What was a threat was the Japanese's skill in farming; wages for Japanese workers were creeping up on the wages for Caucasian workers.

Once the Japanese were interned, farm corporations struck a deal with the government to harvest the crops in the field; dummy corporations would be subsidized by the government to spare the farm corps from any risk. These dummy corporations would then sell back to the farm corporations at a very low price. Any other expenses encountered would be billed to the Japanese. (Farm corporations had liens against the crops, a consequence of the Japanese suffering decades of legislative hurdles to make their living expenses very costly.)

The congressional report, Personal Justice Denied, explained the internment as war-mongering racists gone wild, with a failure of everyone to stop them.

Oops! Our bad. These things happen.

No mention of the objective monetary incentives received by farm corporations (Financial loss to the Japanese was estimated to be between $800 million and $2 billion in 1983 dollars.)

Simply "voting blue" because they're "the good guys" is a joke in very poor taste.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
30. "Had" spanky
Sun May 8, 2016, 03:27 AM
May 2016

You're just like the idiots that say the democratic party "is" the party of the KKK.

Sorry time passes on, believe it or not it's no longer the 1940s

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
31. You missed the point, genius.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:36 AM
May 2016

It wasn't about race, it was about economic exploitation. Race was the excuse given to the rubes who might not approve of an illegal and unconstitutional power grab by the government on behalf of big corporations.

We're all "Japanese" now.

BTW, when is Hillary going to release those transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches? I'd love to hear what promises she made in exchange for a quarter of a million dollars. If Hillary is elected President, can we expect her to follow in Obama's footsteps by failing to prosecute any big banks that engage in massive fraud?

brush

(53,776 posts)
13. So she did. I only explained what "vote blue no matter who" means.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:06 AM
May 2016

Bernie or Hillary in the general to stop Trump.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
14. Listening to Trump talking about debt,
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

the man is an idiot. He is a narcissist. Anyone who would vote anything but blue has a screw loose somewhere.

Wibly

(613 posts)
23. Bottom line
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:17 AM
May 2016

If the Dems want people to vote Blue no matter Who, then they had better produce a nominee who is not tied into Goldman Sacs, does not have a history of foreign policy blunders (Iraq and Libya), does not have a history of flip flopping and pandering, and is actually a candidate people can get behind in a big way.
Sorry but, this argument that people should vote against their own principles and self interest just because there is a big scary Trump out there, does not wash.
Trump can be big and scary, but if he doesn't have Congress and the Senate behind him, he'll be mostly bluster.

No, I'm not saying I would vote Trump, but it doesn't mean I would vote Clinton.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
24. No Can Do, Family Values Says Vote Sanders
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016
I really can't vote for Hillary. Here above my computer is a portrait of my brother in law who died in Vietnam for a lie in 1967 at the age of 22. When I see his face I am reminded that should Hillary be selected, we will have many more wars and interventions. Many more young Americans will die and many many more in the Middle East will die and their countries will be destroyed. Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan, enough already. We know war at this household and it is not pretty.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
27. Ahhh George, you live in fantasy land.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

clinton is not going to fight for all those things. Please get involved and lend your name to building a permanent structure for the Sanders issues .

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