Pic Of The Moment: How Trump Compares To Previous GOP Candidates Among Crucial Voting Blocs

[EarlG]

How groups voted in 2004

How groups voted in 2008

How groups voted in 2012

Trump, Hispanic voters 11%

Trump, African-American voters <10%

Trump, women voters 31%

Trump, young voters 25%

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[underpants]

1. Are the numbers for "The Hispanics" pre- or post- Taco Bowl?

BTW I read the < as a negative at first.

[hibbing]

2. I LOVE the pictures you find for these EarlG!

Hahah McGrumpy looks like he's taking poo in his pants. Romney looks like he's watching his election results, Trump, well yeah. And the war criminal looks like he's thinking about a peanut butter sandwich his mommy made for him.


Peace

[fasttense]

3. Bush didn't win in 2004,

He stole it by hacking the Ohio vote count. The guy who could prove it mysteriously died in an airplane "accident" after having written a letter stating that if he died look into Rove. No one has ever investigated the timely murder err... death.

W never, ever won in a fair federal election. But hay this is what being a RepubliCON is all about. The long CON.

[Botany]

4. +1

"He stole it by hacking the Ohio vote count." I know I was there.

In 2004 nationwide all exit polls in states that had paper ballots the exit polls matched the
vote count w/a slight shift to Kerry that was < the M.O.E. (margin of error)

In 2004 nationwide all states that used electronic voting machines the exit polls did not match
vote count and their was a shift to w bush that was > the M.O.E.

The democratic party and our liberal media all know these facts and will not say shit.

[L. Coyote]

12. 2004 Presidential Election Results, the Exit Polls vs. the Vote Counts

2004 Presidential Election Results, the Exit Polls vs. the Vote Counts

15 States with % Disparity favoring Bush and StDev > 1.0
Disparity Range 3.03% - 4.83%
Mean Disparity = 3.65%
Mean Kerry Votes Reported = 48.37 %
Mean Kerry Exit Polls = 52.02%
33,982,586 voters

[Herman4747]

5. +1 nt

[L. Coyote]

11. Actually, Ohio 2004 was punch cards, and they were switched, not hacked.

Before they were counted.

How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes

Switching to e-voting removes the evidence that was obvious with punch card voting. HAVA was more like a Help Republican Cheats Act.

[fasttense]

16. Actually it was a vote shift but it's not the point

"The filing also includes the revealing deposition of the late Michael Connell. Connell served as the IT guru for the Bush family and Karl Rove. Connell ran the private IT firm GovTech that created the controversial system that transferred Ohio's vote count late on election night 2004 to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush's unexpected victory. Connell died a month and a half after giving this deposition in a suspicious small plane crash." http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2319:new-court-filing-reveals-how-the-2004-ohio-presidential-election-was-hacked

[L. Coyote]

18. That's a complete ruse to cover up stealing Ohio for a decade.

The counties knew their vote tallies before reporting them, and after the election the counties did their final, official counts and reported those. If one vote was changed, they would know because they know how to read numbers! There was no vote shift between the county totals and the totals that went online.

Ohio was solid blue before the right-wingers introduced the punch card system for stealing black votes. That's what they don't want you to know.

[Botany]

27. Ohio was solid blue before the right-wingers introduced the punch card system for stealing black vot

Now would that be w/George Voinovich, Gov. Taft,
Gov. Rhodes, or Gov. O'Neil?

[KansDem]

15. He didn't win 2000, either...

[liberalnarb]

20. I never knew this. (About 2004 that is, 2000 was blatantly obvious)

I always thought that w won in 2004 only because he used 9/11 as a fear mongering tool.

[certainot]

25. airplane 'accidents' have been a very effective

'accidental' assassination technique

[NewJeffCT]

6. I'm surprised Trump is getting 11%

of the Hispanic vote.

[liberal N proud]

7. What I don't understand...

is the 11% Hispanics, the 10% African Americans and the 31% Women.

Are these people insane?

[PatSeg]

17. I was thinking the same thing

Absolutely bizarre.

[oberliner]

8. How did Bush do so well with Hispanics?

That's amazing.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

9. He courted them heavily and spoke Spanish

Remember, he was open to immigration reform, which actually got him into heat with the party.

[oberliner]

13. My how things have changed

People in that community will line up to vote against Trump, I would think.

[NewJeffCT]

21. Yes, I believe so

I'm guessing we'll see a surge in the Hispanic turnout so people can vote against Trump. Then, if somebody like Julian Castro is on the ticket as well, we could be talking about Trump getting less than 5% of the Hispanic vote.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

10. LOL

He's polling 100% with assholes though!

[Doctor Jack]

14. Republicans always have that demographic locked up.. nt

[oldandhappy]

19. hahaha

Pretty clear we need shrub to make a come back. Is the two term thing total or just consecutive?
It is weird to me that with Trump down in all categories, why is he ahead in the vote?

[NewJeffCT]

22. Most polls

Have Trump behind Clinton by double digits, or close to double digits. And, the electoral math is bad for him as well

[oldandhappy]

23. I meant the repub gang of candidates.

He did came out on top of the 17. Crazy to me, but it happened.

Yea, he seems to be way behind clinton now. We have not had the conventions and we are running the GE!!! The primary season is too long.

[NewJeffCT]

24. easy explanation on Trump's success

The GOP is a lot whiter, a lot angrier and a lot older than the rest of the electorate. And, those are the people that turn out to vote in the primaries. (in solidly blue states like NY, Mass and CT, only moderate Republicans tend to have any success - yet, Trump won in landslides in all 3 states because the moderates don't vote as heavily in the primaries.)

The evangelical vote was split early between Cruz, Carson, Huckabee and Santorum, so they never had a chance once Trump did well early.

The mainstream GOP was too busy watching Jeb Bush crash & burn and hoping he could right himself before moving on too late to lightweight Rubio and then Kasich. So, they watched as Rubio and then Kasich went down in flames as well.

Rand Paul couldn't generate enough of the racist vote after Trump won their love with his comments about Mexicans and Muslims.

[Turin_C3PO]

26. Exactly what I've been trying to point out

to doom sayers; that the demographics simply don't add up for Trump.

[Cosmocat]

29. It isn't favorable for him at all

But, the demographics don't move the needle as much in some key states - Pa, Oh in particular.

I am fairly confident he is going to be himself, come off as a complete ass and make Hillary look better, and even sympathetic at times.

But, he has a legitimate path if he can hold the core R states and win Oh and Pa, where the Hispanic vote in particular is not heavy.

[stage left]

28. What's wrong with 31% of American women? nt