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Clinton Tacks Hard Right (Original Post) LongTomH May 2016 OP
The "sane" progressive is ridiculous. PeaceNikki May 2016 #1
Ridiculously accurate and truthful, yes yourpaljoey May 2016 #2
Nope, just ridiculous. PeaceNikki May 2016 #5
at best she has been a rockerfeller republcian dembotoz May 2016 #11
A lot of Bernie fans like her. liberalnarb May 2016 #22
Which part? Stryder May 2016 #31
Well that arrow points right. zeemike May 2016 #3
Yeppers! Buzz Clik May 2016 #4
K&R yuiyoshida May 2016 #6
Media framing things as Trump vs Hillary. However Bernie Sanders is STILL in the G.D. Race! zebonaut May 2016 #7
did we really land on the moon? stonecutter357 May 2016 #8
what the hell does that mean? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #16
Her new game plan kathysart_decoration May 2016 #9
it seems to fit her MO, and it's sickening Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #17
She's triangulating the electorate! immoderate May 2016 #19
A Massive Bernie Supporter BUT... LovingA2andMI May 2016 #10
her material is sourced Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #18
Does not change the opinion LovingA2andMI May 2016 #20
I can't f**king stand her. liberalnarb May 2016 #23
There's a great movie called "Hits", Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #25
Good One... LovingA2andMI May 2016 #32
Hillary was very clear about what she would do Geronimoe May 2016 #12
Obviously, her and her advisors DO think they can win by doing this. TrollBuster9090 May 2016 #13
But, that's okay tom_kelly May 2016 #14
And if she gets elected BigMin28 May 2016 #27
assuming her sources are all correct, this is totally nauseating Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #15
Anyone Beginning to Think... kadaholo May 2016 #21
Clinton doesn't tack hard right. We've seen what hard right looks like and its not in our party. liberalnarb May 2016 #24
I'm with you. My idea of "hard right" does not jibe with this. Midnight Writer May 2016 #34
That woman visually appears to be mentally unstable IMO. Trust Buster May 2016 #26
Dead chihuahua (DC) Katashi_itto May 2016 #28
She looks and sounds unbalanced to me. Trust Buster May 2016 #29
(DC) Katashi_itto May 2016 #30
Well something is going on... LovingA2andMI May 2016 #33
 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
22. A lot of Bernie fans like her.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:56 PM
May 2016

I cant stand her. I think shes a lunatic. Shes an Obama-hater as well. I wouldn't give her the time of day.

Stryder

(450 posts)
31. Which part?
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:11 PM
May 2016

It's more than a two minute blurb.
So I'm sure you can pick something out.
But all in all? I hear her.

 
9. Her new game plan
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:46 PM
May 2016

Her new game plan appears to be that she is going to dump Bernie and the rest of us and in our place pick up all those republicans who won't vote for Donald Trump to replace us. It is, sadly, possible that it will give her enough voters to win the GE if she is the nominee. Actually, she could do better in the primaries that are still left if those same republicans will vote for her there. I would love to hear her supporters spin this. She has always been a Democrat in name only, yet here on DU we, supposedly, are only voting for people on the Democratic ticket. With this plan, she is being entirely true to herself and who she has always been. Seriously, anyone really surprised if this pans out?

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
10. A Massive Bernie Supporter BUT...
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:47 PM
May 2016

So tired of this chick, so tired of her videos, so tired of her yelling fire in a crowded theatre and whatever else she's yelling.

She contacted our site FB page (will not name the page as we are not trying to cross-promote ourselves here) claiming that Bernie Sanders was "being cheated" out of the Michigan Primary - before the Primary was complete on Tuesday, March 8, 2016. Of course, being from Michigan we totally dismissed her claims (yelling, warning, think-she-knows or whatever else) because we knew what was happening on the ground -- as we live here.

As it turns out, Bernie won Michigan. The Primary was called at about 11:30ist pm ET that night and the rest is history. However, it has not stopped her from yelling or boasting "foreseeing" claims of grandeur, that she had no personal idea about from wherever her home base really is.

The moral of this story is, folks need to take things shouted on YouTube with a grain of salt, instead of automatically believing they are true. Like Niko House. Remember him? We exposed his YouTube based delusions of grandeur too.

However, as the saying goes: To Each, Their Own.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
18. her material is sourced
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

And putting aside her verbiage, do you really doubt anything she says?


Aides Reveal Clinton to Take a Hard Line with Sanders at Convention:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/278074-clinton-to-take-hard-line-with-sanders-say-allies
Clinton forming Republicans for Hillary, group to align with power and money interests within the Republican party:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/07/hillary-clinton-to-form-republicans-for-hillary-group-to-exploit/
Virginia Governor Warns Sanders Supporters to Behave:
http://itk.thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/279136-democratic-national-convention-chair-sanders-supporters-better
Charles Koch mulling support of Hillary in General:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/charles-koch-says-hillary-clinton-might-be-better-than-gop-candidates/
Rachel feigns concern about 'divisive' Bernie Protestors:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/sanders-condemns-disruptions-ok-with-protest-681128003895
Woodruff slandering Sanders as Threatening Clinton for Not Letting Himself be Pushed Out of Convention:
https://www.facebook.com/1410232216/videos/o.108200319528733/10209781178552084/?type=2&theater

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
23. I can't f**king stand her.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:59 PM
May 2016

And I haven't liked her since the beginning. She has the same smartass attitude I see in libertarians when they really don't know shit.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
25. There's a great movie called "Hits",
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:28 PM
May 2016

Every time I see a random guy/gal yelling about things on youtube, I instantly think about that movie.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
12. Hillary was very clear about what she would do
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:57 PM
May 2016

Pull the Obama campaign rhetoric pretend to be a progressive by repeating Bernie's winning lines. Take a hard right in the general and then become Wall Street's poodle.

This is like Lucy pulling the football out from Charrlie Brown's kickoff.


TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
13. Obviously, her and her advisors DO think they can win by doing this.
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

The calculation is actually very simple:

First, the GOP just nominated a f-ing crackpot, which puts all the 'centrists' and 'leaning right,' not to mention all the neo-liberals and foreign policy hawks who would normally vote Republican back in play. She has calculated that, by leaning right, she can scoop up enough of those people to offset the people she'll loose from the left. The fact that she's actively courting JEB BUSH funders is the most obvious (not to mention outrageous) example of this.

Second, the self-interest-voting left (ie-the working poor) have been essentially disenfranchised, and either can't get out to vote on election day (since it's not a National Holiday, but damned well should be) without loosing their jobs; or because they've been CAGED into gerrymandered districts.

Finally, the genuine movement progressives are mostly in the 18-30 age group, which is a demographic which is notoriously flakey when it comes to actually turning out to vote. They often turn out for Presidential elections, but rarely do in mid-terms. So, Clinton obviously feels she can write them off.

She is obviously going for a classic, Bill Clinton style 'third way' election victory, and hoping to win beck the Senate with the same kind of coalition, BLUE DOGS and all. (I wonder if Ben Nelson and Evan Bayh, and all of those other blue dog losers who screwed up the Affordable Care Act are still interested in running?)

BigMin28

(1,176 posts)
27. And if she gets elected
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

We won't have another female President for a long time after her. I see shades of Margaret Thatcher. A hardass if there ever was one.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
15. assuming her sources are all correct, this is totally nauseating
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

I don't see how any Dem can vote for her, unless they are a corporate lackey or have drank the kool-aid.

kadaholo

(304 posts)
21. Anyone Beginning to Think...
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016

Anyone beginning to think this whole election was a set-up from the very get-go? Considering that Bill Clinton encouraged Trump to run as a candidate, it does cause one to wonder if this situation was planned to "ensure" Clinton's election.... Trump/Clinton...either way we lose!

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
24. Clinton doesn't tack hard right. We've seen what hard right looks like and its not in our party.
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

The "sane" progressive is a lunatic.

Midnight Writer

(21,751 posts)
34. I'm with you. My idea of "hard right" does not jibe with this.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:42 AM
May 2016

Hard right is:

Killing voting rights

Killing civil rights

Killing (or gutting) Social Security and Medicare

Tax cuts for the rich, along with "borrow and spend" government growth

Reaching out to disaffected Republicans is a wise move, not a tack to hard right.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
33. Well something is going on...
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:26 AM
May 2016

Not sure what, but anything she says should be taken with a HIGH DEGREE of grain of salt.

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