Bernie Sanders Teaches Colbert to Never Give Up

[Uncle Joe]

[pmorlan1]

1. Great Skit

I saw that last night. Very funny.

[Cryptoad]

2. Glad to see Bern is,,,

still recruiting more voters for Trump. U go Bern. Dont forget to keep those $27 a rollin in !

[retrowire]

3. You're being an ass.

I'm not a voter for Trump.

AND

You're mocking the historical, record breaking proof that individual donations CAN fund a presidential campaign and citizens united is unnecessary. (Hillary meanwhile uses it while saying it's bad. Ok lol)

What good are you doing with your feedback?

[lewebley3]

10. Sanders is only helping Trump and hurting down state races

[liberalnarb]

51. Back up the statement or delete it. Thats a pathetic thing to say without evidence.

[mac56]

4. I am a voter for Bernie, and

You're being a dick.

[Left Coast2020]

71. Exactly. Only morons make comments like that.

One more for the ignore list.

[liberalmike27]

5. You're Doing That

By voting for Hillary, you're automatically choosing to give Trump more votes.

Sanders is still polling better than Hillary against Trump.

I've read stuff about Sanders' fantasy today, but the biggest fantasy is that Hillary is the best general election candidate.

[lewebley3]

11. Sanders has never been vetted: and we have had a contest he has lost

[99th_Monkey]

25. Sanders has been vetted in Vermont for decades, and gets 25% of the GOP vote there. nt

[Peace Patriot]

34. Har-har! You don't think David Brock has had his spies working overtime since, oh...

...New Hampshire (or before, probably August) and what have they found?

Nada. NADA! Nothing but positives so that's what Brock attacks: Sanders' great record on civil rights, on women's rights, on gay rights, on veterans' rights, on economic fairness, on war. Tear him down! That's all they can try to do.

It is absolutely laughable to say that Sanders "has never been vetted" with a candidate like Clinton as the opposition. She does 'research.' Ask Barack Hussein Obama.

As for Sanders having "lost," why are you here, wasting your precious time when you've already "won"?

Why spend your time getting nasty on Sanders and spitting on my California vote if it doesn't matter?

You know it does. You know that California matters. You know that California can give Sanders the nomination, after which he will demolish Trump. (And your candidate is polling so poorly she could actually lose to the biggest hot air balloon who ever ran for president.)

You have reason to worry, lewebley3! It. is. not. over.

[leftcoastmountains]

6. People like you are driving away any voters for Hillary.

Keep it up, you guys are doing great for the other side.

[Dustlawyer]

59. I know right?

After all of these years I alerted on my first post yesterday. The post said that all Bernie supporters were Trump supporters anyway. They voted 4-3 to leave it with one Hillary supporter writing the longest comment I have ever seen from a juror telling Bernie supporters to get in line.

I had someone tell me today that we pretty much all suck it's winner take all and Hillary doesn't need to change anything to get our votes. I guess we are to all fall in line as the spoils of war, as slaves who now must do whatever Hillary says. She does not have to earn our vote!

Sorry but that is not true, not how Democracy is supposed to work!

[TBF]

67. I have a feeling that's the point ...

at least with that particular poster.

[Gary 50]

7. Bernie recruiting voters for Drumpf?

Nope. Hillary is the one recruiting for the orange haired orangutan. Bernie beats him handily. Hillary, with her huuuuge negative popularity might squeak out a win but will probably end up losing. Then, of course, she will blame Bernie for her loss. She will take no responsibility for her God awful campaign. If she would just stop lying and renounce her lifelong neoliberal policies and release her slimy transcripts and apologize for her war mongering and support of fracking and disastrous trade policies and renounce her corporatism and at least pretend to want to change the utterly corrupt political system we now have where corporations and the one percent have all of the political power and the rest of us have only the illusion of any influence on the political system. But no, she wont do any of these things because she likes the status quo and wants only incremental window dressing change. Bernie is not the problem. Hillary is.

[lewebley3]

12. Sanders has never been vetted: He would bring the Communist argument alive

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Sanders is not Dem: I wouldn't want to defend him: and
we have had a contest and he has lost.

[bjo59]

23. My right wing grandmother thought FDR was ushering in Communism too.

To imply that Sanders is a Communist because he is not a pro-corporate "New Democrat" is laughable but also a clear indication of how far to the right US society has moved over the past 40 years.

[TBF]

35. The only people red-baiting are Hillary supporters -

and isn't that interesting on a democratic site?

BTW, your little "contest" included widespread voter sabotage and suppression. Do you really think Bernie supporters are going to put up with that and then accept your little coronation? That's delusional.

[lewebley3]

62. The contest has been lost by Sanders fair and square:Voting problems

hurt everyone and Hillary.

[TBF]

64. I disagree with that characterization of events

but it's good to know what the spin is going forward.

[Peace Patriot]

36. You don't think David Brock has test-run the "communist" Big Lie...

...and found that it is utterly useless, and hugely counter-productive, against a New Deal Democrat? Today there is no "communist menace" to use as a launching pad to shoot down common sense proposals like a $15/hr minimum wage or free public college tuition (which we once had, and lost to Reaganism). They can't go back to Nixon and resurrect McCarthyism and red-baiting. It won't work today, because the enemy is not "communism," it is CORPORATISM, and everybody knows that now. And they can't go all the way back to the 1930s and resurrect the rightwing bullshit "communist" slur against FDR, because...well, look what it got them then?

Dear, dear lewebley3, your arguments are so empty! "Sanders is not Dem." It's like you don't even have the energy to type out more words than that. Do you think the 40+% of the electorate who are now independents give a goddamn if New Deal Democrat Sanders is "not Dem" in your empty, airless, fact-less opinion?

You think that independents giving Sanders the edge in demolishing Trump--in every national poll since January--is because he is running for the Democratic nomination? I've got news for you. The transglobal corporations, the banksters and the war profiteers have hijacked the Democratic Party, which now has a bad smell to at least 40+% of the electorate--many of them disaffected Democrats for the very reason that their party has been hijacked by their enemies--and to many, many Democrats still within the party as well (including yours truly)--and, believe me, someone who has stood apart from the horror of our hijacked party, and has maintained a true-blue advocacy of New Deal policies, Bernie Sanders, is THE ANSWER. He is a real Democrat--and Clinton is not.

[pangaia]

38. BRAAAAVIIISSSIMOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scootaloo]

58. A delightful example of a gish gallop

[RiverNoord]

9. You know, just shut the fuck up.

I'll say this once, and you'll ignore it. But at least it's said.

1) If the contest between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton results in Hillary Clinton's public image suffering even more, then there's something of substance there that should be examined carefully by her campaign and sensible supporters. It's a goddamn gift at this point, well before the general election, rather than a negative.

2) If Sanders's campaign is bringing in support from a lot of non-party-affiliated voters and some Republicans, who might otherwise consider someone like Trump as a just-barely-tolerable alternative to Hillary Clinton, what the hell are we doing shooing them away? We could be sacrificing the Democratic party's greatest opportunity in decades for a truly massive shift in power. And if they go back and vote for someone like Trump, they would have done so, probably in greater numbers, in the absence of the campaign of Bernie Sanders.

Don't fucking blame Sanders or his supporters for an actual exercise in democracy which reveals weaknesses among the party machinery's highly-undemocratic shoo-in choice for the nomination.

The only ones to blame for that are the assholes who meticulously organized what was, for them and Clinton, supposed to be an uncontested march to the nomination. They are the ones you should be directing your animosity toward.

Of course, that would require some independent thought and a lot more work than completely misdirected but, apparently, personally gratifying attacks against people against whom you have an absurdly foolish ongoing grudge against.

[lewebley3]

13. Hillary has won the contest of votes: Sanders has lost: because he didn't have the votes

[Khellendross]

14. Last I checked the contest is still going,

And several states still have yet to vote, including the most populous, California.

[lewebley3]

15. Only because of Sander ego

[RoccoR5955]

18. Listen to what Yogi Berra said.

"It ain't over till it's over." And it ain't over until DC votes!

[FlaGranny]

22. Have you actually checked

what the general election vote looks like? You're only thinking about Democratic votes. No one, not even Jesus Christ could win with only Democratic votes. Just read in the latest polls that Trump has virtually tied Clinton now in 3 important swing states - Ohio is one of them. If not for closed primaries, where would Clinton stand now?

[FighttheFuture]

27. She's winning a corrupt and rigged voting system designed to suppress new, minority and independent

voters, over 40% of the voting public. Let's hope the Democrats lack of vision, petty corruption and weak candidate in Hillary will not derail them in the general like it did in 1980 and 2000 against what were considered weak, even clownish, Republican candidates.

[RiverNoord]

63. Lewebly3, do you have a random Bernie-bash-phrase computer program?

Nothing you ever write is ever remotely on point. I've seen you repost the exact same thing 3 times during one thread. And I don't get around that much - I'd have to assume that 3 times is far from your record.

And you do get poor suckers who bother to argue with you. Is that the point? Just waste a lot of people's time and energy?

Now I'm curious to see if you respond to me with something like 'you Sanders supporters really should face reality...'

[lewebley3]

65. Its always on point: you just don't like my point, and you don't like losing

[RiverNoord]

66. Yup. It's like a magic 8-ball of

random crap. Personally, I don't mind losing if I've had a good time playing. It's not much fun winning all of the time, as it's really not winning if you're so much better that you never lose.

Of course, lots of people treat politics like a game, so I suppose you mean that I don't like seeing a candidate for office who I support not getting elected.

If I 'didn't like' that, at least anywhere near the extent to which you seem to relish the experience of taunting people who support different candidates than you, I'd have given up on the Democratic party and politics years ago.

So, no, you aren't on point. No one is 'always on point.' Everyone misconstrues something sometime. Even responding to me you had to insert a pointless remark - 'and you don't like losing.' It had nothing to do with the topic I raised, and it added nothing to the discussion, except, I assume, for you.

You see, being 'on point' doesn't depend only on your view of whether what you say is relevant or not. It's largely dependent upon whether others find relevance in what you say. You don't just decide 'whatever I say is relevant and the hell with whatever anyone else thinks.' Relevance doesn't work that way.

Keep shaking that magic 8 ball that generates your ready-made and utterly irrelevant insults. Just remember that pissing people off doesn't mean you've made your point. The only point you make is that what you have to say is pointless to listen to.

[lewebley3]

68. No just truth: your theories and ideas have nothing to do with the real

world: just like Sanders as has nothing to do with reality.

[RiverNoord]

69. Wow, you really are that messed up.

Here's what I wrote:

"Now I'm curious to see if you respond to me with something like 'you Sanders supporters really should face reality...'"

And I'll be damned if you didn't do almost exactly that, with a few words sequenced differently.

Seriously, get some help, man.

[lewebley3]

70. bah bah bah: Sanders has been rejected: You need help getting over Sanders loss

[chknltl]

20. Jury left this up 6-1

I was in majority but please let that vote not discourage your use of a little vocabulary discression.

[RiverNoord]

31. Understood. It's exceedingly rare for me...

I've just seen so much of that poster's garbage...

Not an excuse, though.

[pacalo]

49. Your anger was spot on.

[d_legendary1]

30. All excellent points!

Thanks for this post. It boggles my mind how they insult Bernie Supporters (whom BTW are not all Dems) to no end and then start asking for their help to defeat Trump (even though the DNC Primaries are still going on). Almost all new voters have been going for Trump or Sanders, which speaks volumes about the type of people they can attract.

Let's see if the piss and pat strategy works in November should she steal the Nom.

[chwaliszewski]

56. I thought you didn't swear enough...

but that's just me.

[FighttheFuture]

24. No, Hillary does that all by herself, with her kiss-ass Corporatism and mealy-mouthed triangulating.

Bernie's just telling the truth.

[mountain grammy]

29. oh, give it a rest..just try.

[MrMickeysMom]

40. Completely asinine comment

You only hurt yourself, and you certainly don't have any faith in people who can only afford small donations.

Guess the corporate donors like that, so you and the Donald have THAT going for you.

[Cryptoad]

41. yet u still refuse to answer

the Q of where is the funding come from for political representation of the people living in poverty who do not have any money to donate, but u have projected it away from the Q.

[MrMickeysMom]

43. You don't keep up very well with DU commentary, still, I see...

You mean Bernie Sander's big plans for making public post-secondary schools tuition-free, as many of them were before the military budgets bloated themselves over aircraft that could not fly and nuclear weaponry?

You mean Bernie Sander's big plans to build a single-payer health care system that would have had advanced above and beyond the ACA that he was consulted on, but which did not even venture the public option under Obama, since Obama was still trying to negotiate with the Republicans?

You mean Bernie Sanders big plans to invest in repairing our crumbling infrastructure and upgrading it for a future built on clean transport and energy to sustain and improve the lives of Americans?

And, after all the posts from the Bernie Sanders supporters here on DU with working links to explain an economic plan, you still wonder where all the money is going to come from?

You want someone to put you up on their lap, tuck a napkin into your collar and explain the "pay-fors" that have been emphasize when he talks about eliminating tax breaks for the rich and corporations. This means that you don't look at discretionary spending, or you don't see how much is spent on military budgets. Do you bother to examine any big changes to the tax code on the revenue side? Sanders has addressed the need to look at spending, over on the other side of the ledger, and particularly at the big ticket items in the "discretionary" budget, the one that Congress votes on every year. Pay attention to this, the biggest ticket of them all. Because, by far, is the military's share of the budget that President Barack Obama just unveiled, it accounts for more than all the other government departments. Bernie Sanders has a strong track record of training his sights on that target, too. He not stood with only two other Democratic senators in opposing the 2014 defense bill, for example, calling it bloated "particularly in light of the many unmet needs we face as a nation." He also explained his vote, by noting that this budget had nearly doubled since 2001, not counting the billions in the separate budget on top of this to pay for the wars we are actually fighting.

(note to Cryptoad: The Bush wars of aggression, which Hillary voted to support, and Bernie Sanders did not, were OFF BUDGET)

President Dwight Eisenhower's famously declared that "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

Wall Street speculation should as well be taxed as the source of revenue to balance this, as well as 0.2% payroll tax for providing Universal Health Care (recall, that this eliminates the private insurance industry's ability to profit, and the ever-skyrocking premium and deductibles that all of us "lucky" enough to have a health insurance plan currently have to apply.) That actually saves families thousands of dollars for health care while the Wall Street speculation revenue provides public funding to extend education.

The fact is, any of this information (which should be redundant by now if you actually followed up any of the excellent explanation by other DU contributors) won't be enough, as you continue to cry and wretch and fidget with a ever-whining crescendo that won't stop until you have more and more posters put you on ignore.

[Cryptoad]

44. I ve read everything Bern has published

I guess u dont understand the Q since u refuse to address it.... oh yea love the Bern health plan that taxes people living in poverty.......

[MrMickeysMom]

47. You haven't read shit, as evidenced by your very ignorant response.

Good luck with your comprehension. The land of ignorance is populated by willfulness.

Questioning is good, but being responsible enough to follow the instructions of what Americans pay for the present health care system shows just how unwilling some people are who claim they are Democrats when all they are is willfully ignorant.

[pacalo]

50. Say what???

[Hiraeth]

42. Welcome to Ignore.

[liberalnarb]

52. Sure thats what hes doing. What a disgusting lie. Give me a break.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

55. How? Bernie wins against Trump by a larger margin.

[Scootaloo]

57. Wow. Can't let up on the bitterness and rage for even two minutes.

[ananda]

8. Cute, love it!

[RoccoR5955]

17. EXCELLENT!!!!! n/t

[LongTomH]

19. Stephen Colbert and Bernie Sanders - what more could you ask?

[George II]

21. Wouldn't his time have been better spent completing his Personal Financial Disclosure or...

...looking for his income tax returns?

[FighttheFuture]

28. Riiiight... so we can see all those billions he's squirrled away in his Panama accounts.... Ah, ha,

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ...

[George II]

32. Doesn't matter, his wife promised to release the 2015 returns on April 18 (he's 22 days late)....

....and the Personal Financial Disclosure is required by federal election laws.

[FighttheFuture]

33. Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha.... nice to see that's the most important issue to YOU! Whatever.

[pangaia]

39. I don't give a rats fuck about their financial situation.

Get a life...

[99th_Monkey]

26. Hilarious!! GO BERNIE GO!! nt

[pansypoo53219]

37. when is hillary's wall street speeches going to be released? it could be her achilles hill in AN OCT

SUPRISE. do NOT count chickens when all you have is EGGS.

[lasttrip]

45. thanks Uncle Joe.

Peace.
LT

[Enthusiast]

46. Kicked and recommended!

[840high]

48. I watched last night.

[Norrin Radd]

53. kr

[Rosa Luxemburg]

54. This is great!

[Silver_Witch]

60. So cute!

Thank you for sharing. I don't watch much on TV that is not a cooking show or educational so I miss some of these good blips!

[Skinner]

61. "Contested confection"

Love it.

[Left Coast2020]

72. Could a $100,000 bar be considered a "Super PAC?"

[Duckfan]

73. Shhhhhhhhhh.

You know how the M$M is. They will blow anything out of proportion. Even if it's not true.