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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:10 PM May 2016

Hillary Clinton May Be The Most Hypocritical Candidate In Politics Today



Hillary Clinton is calling for Donald Trump to release his tax returns – and he should. But she completely misses the irony and hypocrisy of calling on Trump to release information when she still hasn’t released the transcripts of her Wall Street speeches. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.
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Hillary Clinton May Be The Most Hypocritical Candidate In Politics Today (Original Post) GoLeft TV May 2016 OP
since when are tax returns and speech transcripts equivalent? MariaThinks May 2016 #1
Her speeches are relevant. She's been asked to produce them She refused. merrily May 2016 #4
Yep Thespian2 May 2016 #7
I love all the straw men. merrily May 2016 #8
she's calling on him to be revealing and hopemountain May 2016 #15
I don't know about the most. A lot of politicians are not exactly George Washington confessing to merrily May 2016 #2
Please chemp May 2016 #3
i'm in complete agreement with you MariaThinks May 2016 #5
Please see Replies 4 and 8. merrily May 2016 #9
Are you questioning my validity? chemp May 2016 #10
No clue what you mean by your "validity." merrily May 2016 #11
It's obvious, really chemp May 2016 #12
Sorry, you are making no sense. And perhaps protesting too much. merrily May 2016 #13
Oh, dear me, whatever could you mean, sir? chemp May 2016 #14
She can't release the transcripts because there are no transcripts and there are no transcripts... tularetom May 2016 #6
thanks, tularetom ~ this hopemountain May 2016 #16

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
1. since when are tax returns and speech transcripts equivalent?
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

it has been standard practice for presidential candidates to release their tax returns since 1976.

Have presidential candidates released transcripts of all their paid speeches (while they were in the private sector)? Should we ask her to release all the work she has done as a private individual? Legal cases she ever handled and what she was told?

Didn't Goldman Sachs pay her to do a speech? isn't that what the employee-employer relationship is about?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. Her speeches are relevant. She's been asked to produce them She refused.
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

You should at least wonder why.

If someone runs for office, it's fair to ask them to make disclosures. If they refuse, they have to expect people to wonder why they are refusing.

No one said they were equivalent to tax returns and that's not the point.

Paying someone to give a speech doesn't create an employer employee relationship, but I don't know what difference it makes anyway.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. I love all the straw men.
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

Tax returns and transcripts are not equivalent *which no one claimed anyway). Therefore Hillary should not have to produce tax returns--and no one should draw any of the very obvious conclusions from that.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
15. she's calling on him to be revealing and
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

honest. she must be willing to do the same. honesty is honesty.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. I don't know about the most. A lot of politicians are not exactly George Washington confessing to
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

chopping down the cherry tree--which he probably didn't do either.

chemp

(730 posts)
3. Please
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:16 PM
May 2016

I'm getting quite tired, as a Sanders supporter, of defending Clinton from baseless attacks.

Point 1. I WANT to see those transcripts
Point 2. Hillary has released her taxes, as has candidates for president for decades.
Point 3. Speech transcripts and taxes are NOT the same thing, and show no hypocrisy.

You are posting Trump talking points here. Period.
Attack Clinton on issues. Stuff that matter. No emails, Benghazi,pantsuit bullshit.

Thank You

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. Please see Replies 4 and 8.
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

You know, even if I did not have this avatar, I would never preface any defense of Clinton with "I am a Sanders supporter."

For the love of heaven, you have not seen a single post here about pantsuits or Benghazi. However, the emails are not in the same category as Benghazi. For just one thing, the FBI is not investigating Hillary for Benghazi.

Chemp
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chemp

(730 posts)
10. Are you questioning my validity?
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

By posting my membership status?

Merrily
Member since: Wed Jun 20, 2012

I have been here since almost the beginning! You for almost one election cycle.
I log in almost every day
I do not post often, sue me.

I am just sick of the constant bickering on this site, over who is the bigger liberal, or who should carry the flag.

Hint - Not Trump. That's who.

I see Clinton as a right of center Democrat
I see Trump as a danger to this nation.

One of the above we can survive. One we will not.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. No clue what you mean by your "validity."
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:26 PM
May 2016

I posted info that is public on this board without making any comment about it. People can draw whatever conclusions they care to.

chemp

(730 posts)
12. It's obvious, really
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:35 PM
May 2016

Why challenge my post with a cut/paste of my membership if you are not calling into question if I "belong" here?
I have been a member for 15 years.
But have only posted under 750 times.
Therefore, I am less important than you.

I have donated money to DU. Finances currently prevent me from now. And have a stack of DU bumperstickers to prove it.
But questioning my message by counting my posts is a cheap act. So I call that out.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Sorry, you are making no sense. And perhaps protesting too much.
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

By all means call out whatever you want, though I am not sure why you think you have to. What I posted is right there for all to see. Not like I pm'd it to someone.

chemp

(730 posts)
14. Oh, dear me, whatever could you mean, sir?
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

It's quite obvious what you meant by posting what you did.
And your "gosh, I just cannot figure out what you are saying" act is clear as well.

You, and your ilk, are the reason I do not post often. Instead of posting a debate, you toss a veiled attack at me. Then deny it.
I have to put up with this passive aggressive bullshit at work every day. I'm just done dealing with it here.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. She can't release the transcripts because there are no transcripts and there are no transcripts...
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:25 PM
May 2016

...because there were no speeches. The "speeches" were a thinly disguised way for Wall Street bankers and other fat cats to give money to the Clintons and evade campaign funding laws.

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