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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:10 PM May 2016

Progressive Democrats’ Message To Clinton: This Race isn’t Over Just Because You Say it Is



Rather than trying to win over progressive Democrat votes, Hillary Clinton continues to alienate those not already in her camp. On Thursday, the former secretary of state haughtily declared that she would be the Democratic nominee despite the fact that the Democratic primary rages on. Clinton’s assumptive and entitled attitude is doing her no favors for winning over progressive Democrat votes, and it could be this attitude which loses her the election. Ring of Fire’s Sydney Robinson discusses this.
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Progressive Democrats’ Message To Clinton: This Race isn’t Over Just Because You Say it Is (Original Post) GoLeft TV May 2016 OP
"Progressive Democrats"? What is that? The new name for Social Democrat? tonyt53 May 2016 #1
More crap from the HRC camp... freebrew May 2016 #5
In the same vein, you can continue the same business as usual Fuddnik May 2016 #6
Uh, all of those things you mentioned, require the help of Congress tonyt53 May 2016 #30
you mean the congress that has been bought off with citizens united? Phlem May 2016 #35
Could you make a valid point before resorting to snark? shakedown1970 May 2016 #41
President is also head of the party and sets the agenda...the direction for the country bjobotts May 2016 #27
Um. Yes it is. Hillary is 89 delegates away from victory. Gomez163 May 2016 #2
Dream on. 840high May 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Gomez163 May 2016 #24
I just love Clinton's humility.Will there be more Hillary hate or Trump hate/ Her supporters bjobotts May 2016 #23
Take off every Sanders redixdoragon May 2016 #26
The NEWT GINGRICH of the Establishment Party Plucketeer May 2016 #3
Only if you steal it. tonyt53 May 2016 #4
"This Election... kadaholo May 2016 #7
+1 n/t Melissa G May 2016 #10
+2 Hiraeth May 2016 #20
+3 840high May 2016 #22
+100!! Duval May 2016 #36
Naw, it's over. eom. reACTIONary May 2016 #43
My CA ballot has Bernie in there. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #8
The race isn't not over just bc BS says it is. 6chars May 2016 #9
odd how when hillary says something = bad and bernie says the SAME thing = good nt msongs May 2016 #11
just can't get enough can you? Phlem May 2016 #37
Did he say it was...No, no he did not. Melissa G May 2016 #12
did too - all the time 6chars May 2016 #13
The FBI still has their say, not to mention the utter gaul to discount libdem4life May 2016 #28
NO. There are valid reasons to support Bernie's statement that the race is not over. bvar22 May 2016 #34
This race is over and she WON!!! asuhornets May 2016 #14
Maybe if you say it often enough it will magically come true. Jester Messiah May 2016 #16
it will on june 7th asuhornets May 2016 #17
Then, by your own admission, it isn't over yet and she hasn't yet won. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #18
Well that got you "crickets" LOL libdem4life May 2016 #29
Doh! Phlem May 2016 #38
The sky color is Red... yuiyoshida May 2016 #19
Its over. Then again...... reACTIONary May 2016 #44
Bernie has already won.Look at all the peop0le he brought into the party & the process bjobotts May 2016 #31
So you're speaking for all "Progressive Democrats?" Cut the shit. Nitram May 2016 #15
Certainly spoke for this Progressive. Duval May 2016 #39
So you and the poster represent all progressives? CTS. Nitram May 2016 #45
For all those... MrWendel May 2016 #25
Are you a 16 year old groupie? shakedown1970 May 2016 #42
If I was.... MrWendel May 2016 #46
Message to Sander's supporters. The Democratic convention is not going to be contested because still_one May 2016 #32
I got some alphabet soup for Hillary: RFK and FBI. thereismore May 2016 #33
Could this presidential election continue to be a wake-up toward a new trend for the Democrats? maddiemom May 2016 #40
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. "Progressive Democrats"? What is that? The new name for Social Democrat?
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

To the politically naive, change can come about by just electing a President. To those that know better, they understand that it will take a lot more than just a President; it will also take at least a Democrat majority in the Senate. It appears that to Progressive Democrats and Social Democrats that they think a President can make all of the changes by themselves without the help of Congress or the Supreme Court. Yep, the politically naive.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
5. More crap from the HRC camp...
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

Progressive Democrat has been around a while. If you're 62 you should know that.

Sanders supporters know that he can't change anything by himself.

But we know he will try, not like the other candidates that will advance TPP and every other big business request.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
6. In the same vein, you can continue the same business as usual
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016

War, Wall Street, Cheap Labor, Medical costs out of control, insurance rackets....ad nauseum, just by electing a President.

I don't think I'm the naive one here.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
30. Uh, all of those things you mentioned, require the help of Congress
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

Or didn't you know that? Oh, it appears you didn't by your response.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
35. you mean the congress that has been bought off with citizens united?
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

Yea, they're going to be falling all over themselves to do the right thing.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
27. President is also head of the party and sets the agenda...the direction for the country
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
May 2016

Progressive means not settling for the status quo, pushing for the best outcome, and being unafraid to reach for the stars

Response to 840high (Reply #21)

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
23. I just love Clinton's humility.Will there be more Hillary hate or Trump hate/ Her supporters
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

only make up 25% of Democrats, The rest of the country will judge her condescending attitude and say "Just who does she think she is?" 89 delegates away but is she electable since she does not beat Trump by as large of numbers as Sanders who does not have all that hate baggage to carry around. Hillary needs to be smarter and get some humility and act like she needs the rest of her party or she will lose us this election. She is not a Queen. Merely a candidate who will work for us...not rule us.

Melissa G

(10,170 posts)
12. Did he say it was...No, no he did not.
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:34 PM
May 2016

That would be a Hillary pronouncement.

But you knew that...

6chars

(3,967 posts)
13. did too - all the time
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:40 PM
May 2016

he keeps saying it's not over, but just because he says it's not over, doesn't mean it isn't not over. Hillary has not been saying it's not over. That's Bernie.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
28. The FBI still has their say, not to mention the utter gaul to discount
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
May 2016

voters in states still to hold elections. Maybe the HRC voters will stay home because, hey, it's already in the bag. Why take a day off work?

Oh, and It's Not Over. See? People still get to vote without the stunning hubris and tagalongs rah rahs.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
34. NO. There are valid reasons to support Bernie's statement that the race is not over.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:57 PM
May 2016

Hillary has NOT crossed the finish line. She does NOT have the required number of delegates to have WON the nomination.

Bernie Sanders name is on the ballot in California.
That means the Race is still ON.


As usual, Bernie is telling the truth,
and Hillary.....well, we all know from history what kind of relationship Hillary has with the truth.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
19. The sky color is Red...
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

The sky color is Red...
The sky color is Red....
The sky color is Red...


Yeah, it doesn't work, but try and convince them!

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
31. Bernie has already won.Look at all the peop0le he brought into the party & the process
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:44 PM
May 2016

His agenda is what the majority of people when polled say they want but none of the other candidates even talk about. He has made a national populist movement front and center...one that without him would have been ignored. He has won this political revolution because the inspired young people will be involved and active in the democratic process for decades to come pushing back against the oligarchy and the multimillionaires who are trying to buy this nation's leaders.
It's not about the horse race. It's about the process and the agenda and what we stand for as democrats.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
32. Message to Sander's supporters. The Democratic convention is not going to be contested because
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:48 PM
May 2016

Bernie said so

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
33. I got some alphabet soup for Hillary: RFK and FBI.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:48 PM
May 2016

In case some reader gets "hurt", I am just paraphrasing Hillary 2008.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
40. Could this presidential election continue to be a wake-up toward a new trend for the Democrats?
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

Baby steps. I voted for Bernie in my PA primary, but I'll work for and support Hillary, or whoever the Democratic nominee, because, just look at The Donald, or Cruz or any Republican alternative. Rather than benefit from the present Republican chaos, the Democrats seem to be determined to create their own chaos. The Clintons are an puzzle wrapped in an enigma (or is it vice-versa). Bill was savaged and impeached, but pulled through. Hillary has been the"most admired woman" in the world a number of times, but deals with a hatred that claims her a criminal worthy of being prosecuted in the U.S. Bill disappointed me during his term, but I'd rate him a distaff Richard Nixon, charm aside. Both of them claimed a certain philosophy in governing: both skewed away from it when it seemed an expedient standard of governing. Nixon (Yow,I'm choking) actually did far more "liberal" good than Bill Clinton. I think we're still pretty stuck in 2016. BUT the Bernie supporters need to continue after 11/16. I'll definitely do my part.

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