Mika: It Feels Like Hillary Clinton Is Lying Straight Out | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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[Thinkingabout]

1. Good for Mika, who cares about what Mika feels.

[Betty Karlson]

18. Maybe we could focus on the issue: Clinton lied AGAIN.

Even her spin (a.k.a. campaign statements) are starting to lack consistency. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" - and Mika isn't selfish for pointing that out. You are selfish for attempting to make this about Mika. This is about Clinton, and her severe shortcomings.

I hope and pray that California and New Jersey will end her campaign once and for all. This is a trainwreck.

[lewebley3]

46. Hillary didn't lied: and Mika is a GOP person: her cash comes from a right

winger. The report about Hillary emails back up Hillary

[Betty Karlson]

59. All criticism of Clinton comes from the right? Delusional reply. eom

[ReRe]

70. You got that right...

... you've never met up with him before? Delusions are his specialty. You'll get used to him.

[Jester Messiah]

104. Classic Louie Blewie.

Not even on speaking terms with reality.

[lewebley3]

109. Yes, almost all because Hillary is running for President: DA

[AntiBank]

75. Clinton :"It was allowed" and "The rules were only changed after I left" <<<< 2 categorical lies

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At some point even casual "barely news following" people are going to be hit with these examples so much that their votes will be affected. I do NOT WANT a fucking President Donald fucking Trump and each week that possibility is going up up up. If we have to spend all or most of our energy defending Clinton, how the hell do our issues, issues that are winners, get to be placed centerstage???

[Betty Karlson]

95. Clinton is the culmination of everything wrong with Debbie's candidate-selecting. eom

[lewebley3]

108. 80% of the Goverment are breaking the record rules and laws now

[AntiBank]

112. link please AND 80% of the government is not the SOS nor the potential Dem nominee for POTUS

and having a private server is not just "record keeping".
You make it sound like she forgot to keep receipts for a business lunch at The Palm.

Are we really going to go down the old "look! everybody is doing it too so it is not wrong" route? nad everybody was NOT doing this

some of the LAWS (not rules)potentially broken:


Mishandling Classified Information

Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email.

By using a private email system, Secretary Clinton violated the Federal Records Act and the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual regarding records management, and worse, could have left classified and top secret documents vulnerable to cyber attack. This is an egregious violation of the law, and if it were anyone else, they could be facing fines and criminal prosecution.

Violation of The 2009 Federal Records Act

Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:

“Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.”

Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency’s record-keeping system. In Clinton’s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department records.


Violation of the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA)


MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell believes that the use of a personal emails server appears to be a preemptive move, specifically designed to circumvent FOIA: “‘Hillary Clinton’s system was designed to defy Freedom of Information Act requests, which is designed to defy the law.'”


Circumventing the Freedom of Information Act in the United States: the Controversial Case of Hillary Clinton

http://transparencyaudit.net/news/2015-04/circumventing-freedom-information-act-united-states-controversial-case-hillary-clinton

Prior to the discovery of the existence of Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email account, the State Department left many FOIA requests related to her activities with the agency unanswered. Clinton and her aides recently released over 55,000 pages of emails from her personal account to the State Department, but FOIA requests, subpoenas, or other document searches were all left unfulfilled over the past five years because there were previously no official records. The oldest request was submitted in 2010, and although the federal agency acknowledged receiving the FOIA requests and created case numbers, they still have yet to produce any of the documents that were requested.

Under Federal law, government emails (with exceptions for classified information) are supposed to be a matter of public records so they can be available to members of Congress, the news media, and ordinary citizens. Clinton’s exclusive use of a personal email account violates NARA's rules for preserving records. The code requires federal agencies to make and preserve records that document agency activity, decisions and procedures, so that they are readily available when needed; in this case, for FOIA requests and congressional inquiries. Clinton’s aides took no actions to preserve the emails from her personal account. Had she used a government provided email address, all of her email sent and received would have been archived in the State Department system.

[MrMickeysMom]

98. Derp!

[world wide wally]

51. It's a good thing Trump never led to her or Joe

At least that they ever mentioned

[busterbrown]

72. Nice Try..

could not give a shit about her email problems...Only ones who do, simply are locked in...

Does not anyone around here give her credit for the job she did as Secretary of State..?

[pangaia]

78. Both are the problem

[passiveporcupine]

54. Who cares about what you feel.

I actually do care about what you feel or support, but obviously you are only about you.

[MrWendel]

2. If...

using Trump cheerleaders Mika and Joe and a paragon of facts and truth isn't a stage a grief, I don't know what is.

[dorkzilla]

4. It's okay, you'll hit the acceptance stage soon :)

[MrWendel]

11. I will...

on June 7th. Having the most VOTES and DELEGATES in this election helps.

[LenaBaby61]

13. Don't really nor have I...

Ever paid attention to or liked Mika/Joe, and especially not after Trump told them to take it easy on him during their little Town Hall "love fest" in South Carolina.

[Press Virginia]

3. Why shouldn't she, at this point? Her supporters clearly don't care if she lies

as long as she wins.

[lewebley3]

48. Hillary doesnt' lie: Sanders lied about free college and breaking up banks

[Voice for Peace]

62. no, leweyblewey, she lies, and lies and lies. and then she lies about lying.

[840high]

63. haha-

Stop this nonsense - ever yone knows she lies.

[Press Virginia]

76. How could he lie about that?

[Duval]

77. Sorry, lewebley3. You are wrong. nt

[lewebley3]

107. Wolf Biz read Sanders word to him during the Debate: Sanders

promised free college to everyone.

[AntiBank]

97. what are you possibly talking about???

a truly bizzarre post

[MrMickeysMom]

99. Really?

Tell us how he did that...

Or, is this another ... Derp?

[zebonaut]

5. HRC must STEP DOWN; and allow Bernie Sanders to be the Stronger Nominee for the Democrats

[shenmue]

22. From what?

Kerry is now Sec. of State.

From what is Clinton supposed to step down?

And why, when she's leading Sanders by 3 million votes?

[Dustlawyer]

65. Because most Independents and some Republicans and

lastly, a whole lot of Democrats support a man who wants to restore Representative Democracy instead of an oligarch tool!

In the restrictive Primary there are more victims of the MSM propaganda who are convinced to support the candidate bought and paid for by TPTB! You have to be in denial to believe Hillary when she says the money doesn't influence her!

[pangaia]

79. So 3 weeks ago u read 3,ooo ooo votes

And now repeat and repeat and repeat it...

But. She is NOT ahead by 3,000,000 votes.
🐗🐽🐽

[noiretextatique]

111. 3 million independents could not vote in NY alone

Your numbers mean nothing.

[libodem]

50. Golden Toad

[Darb]

106. That is fuckiiiiiiiiiiiing funny.

You should go on stage.

[Squinch]

6. Another right wing propaganda piece by those who can't accept their loss.

Someday you all will be ashamed of this.

[slipslidingaway]

7. Andrea Mitchell in the clip 'there are many flaws in the Clinton argument ... nt

[gordianot]

8. Mitchell is the corporate shill of shills.

She actually runs the hive.

[AntiBank]

96. which makes her going after the corporate backed

and owned Clinton all the more damning.

[gordianot]

101. Abosolutely Hillary has lost Andrea,, I will watch her tomorrow how Andrea goes so goes the weather

I suspect they are holding on to this for later nary but a brief mention by the phony progressives of MSNBC. Notice for the most part media gets it Clinton was cooked in the report. Even Chuck Todd (Toad) gets it. When confronted yesterday Hillary focuses on she was allowed to mix personal emails and go back to they all (former Secretary's) did it and she was allowed to have a private server. So it comes down to Colin Powell was experimenting with email and Hillary did not really have permission for a server she used an insecure BlackBerry for email and when problems with her server were noticed she refused to use a secured laptop. Hillary was the first SOS to use email extensively she screwed up and it was probably unintentional. Go to the present day she is trying to cover up and spin, impossible when in the final stages of an investigation.

Incredibly bad judgement, her opposition still wants to dredge up old stories such as Biill the Goat, when Hillary has fouled up her communications at never before seen levels. She is still self destructing.

[AntiBank]

103. its becoming hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil all over again

with a bonus of "the documents were always in a secure location" (although Sander Berger's pants have been updated to Hillary's server in the basement of her home)

[JDPriestly]

9. You work in an office. You're the boss. You hire an IT guy or gal.

Your IT person makes sure that your e-mails and computer files are secure.

That is how this is done. Back in the 1980s and 1990s, a lot of this was new and these kinds of mistakes were understandable.

But this mistake is not acceptable unless maybe you are in a small business for yourself and your computer is both your personal and your business computer.

This is not the kind of mistake that the IT people at the State Department should have accepted. Where were they? Didn't they notice that the Secretary of State was not on their secure computers. I am assuming that the State Department functions like any business.

Businesses have to have secure computer systems because they handle their clients or customers' very personal information like credit card numbers, etc.

The information Hillary was handling was even more confidential than that if possible. How could she have used an insecure server? And how could she have failed to make sure all of her work e-mails were on the State Department server when she left?

Did she leave too unexpectedly?

Was she leaving because she wanted to or maybe for some other reason?

How long before leaving did she plan her departure?

[zalinda]

14. There is a reason for this.

This is a very damning article. I don't know if they are RW or not, I didn't check. I got to it from Yahoo's front page. But the snippet below should answer your question.


"The Office of the Inspector General at State, as in all federal departments, exists to ferret out internal fraud, waste and illegalities. However, State had no real IG boss from 2009 to 2013, with an acting director heading up the office. Neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton were in any hurry to find a permanent director for State’s IG shop. Now we know why."

http://observer.com/2016/05/game-over-emailgate-just-crippled-the-clinton-express/

[scscholar]

16. And then they picked someone anti-Clinton for the job

Just sad.

[zalinda]

23. So you are saying that Obama or Kerry is anti Clinton? eom

[scscholar]

25. That is not what I said at all! Did you not listen to Fallon?

He was clear that the second in command had a confirmed bias and hinted that the IG was of the same kind.

[zalinda]

49. You mean Hillary Clinton's spokesman Brian Fallon? Oh, yeah I believe him. LOL eom

[JDPriestly]

27. Who is 'they'?

Would that be Obama? Or Congress? Or State itself?

[CentralMass]

102. It would seem that anyone not willing to sweep this under the rug would be deemed anti-Clinton

[pnwmom]

24. That "very damning article" is from a Trump Family publication.

Nothing the Observer pushes about Hillary should be taken seriously, ever.

The publisher is Trump's son-in-law and the editor is a Rudy Guiliani henchman.

[ReRe]

86. I usually take everything I see...

... on YahooNews with a grain of salt and some cross-checking. However, I read the observer.com article and also found parts of it very informative.

Especially about the Office of Inspector General and what their actual function is:
to ferret out " 'internal' fraud, waste and illegalities." Doesn't an Acting State IG have exactly the same duties as the permanent State IG, with the understanding that it is a temporary position?

I have all kinds of questions about the IG position itself. Does the President appoint the Dept of State IG? Is that a position that has to be run thru the Senate for a vote? Did the Bush State IG agree to stay on as temporary State IG for the PO administration? Jeez Louise, my mind is exploding with a gazillion questions.

This whole thing has opened up a Pandora's Box. Like.... could we actually be seeing the END of the right wing of the Democratic Party before our eyes? It's a bigger scandal than Watergate ever thought about being.

[Demit]

53. Yeah I don't think the State Dept functions like any business.

Comparing government to business is a simplistic comparison no matter how often people make it. In this case you are comparing a system of static information (credit card numbers) with diplomatic dealings that are in constant flux, consisting of events & information that shift in an ever-changing, multi-layered, worldwide dynamic. I would imagine that IT employees at State don't expect to always be read in on matters of state importance. They probably tend to give the head honcho, who is dealing with governments both friendly and hostile, and with volatile situations both longstanding and sudden, some room to maneuver as he or she sees fit.

[SheilaT]

71. Actually, the government doesn't operate at all like a business.

Sometimes that's good. Sometimes it's not so good.

Back in the 1960's, when computers were first being installed in lots of places, some genius in the FAA said, "Rent computers? Are you nuts? We'll BUY them!" About forty years later the entire air traffic control system was in an enormous crisis because of those old computers. Meanwhile, pretty much every business out there had, thanks to the miracle of renting computers, upgraded their hardware and software pretty steadily. And here's a recent article about the computers in the Air Traffic Control System. http://www.wired.com/2015/02/air-traffic-control/

Although some businesses have done it better than others. About twenty years ago my now ex went to work for a company when they were getting new computers, and things were in a bit of a crisis for them. He was very good at his job, and the eventual changeover went quite well and they kept him on to manage that department. The main thing he did for the fifteen years he worked there was to continually upgrade and improve all the computers, everywhere in that business. He even got the salesmen to use computers, which was something of a miracle. I remember him telling me "There's a reason they're in sales."

And I've heard that Hillary Clinton had no idea how to check emails when she first became a Senator, but have no idea how true that may be. But I wouldn't be surprised. Often people at the top have enough staff that they don't have to do many day-to-day things. In any case, she was even less tech savvy than I am, and that's not good. She would have had no way of understanding the ramifications of setting up her own email server in her home. I at least was married to an IT guy for a long time and he explained lots of stuff to me.

More to the point, she was told explicitly not to do that, and she did it anyway. What part of No do you suppose she has trouble understanding?

[passiveporcupine]

10. Wow...even Chuck Todd is agreeing with this

This is very damning for Clinton. Andrea Mitchell and Chuck Todd coming out against her on this?

Chuck says (these are my words, not his) that she could not even be confirmed as Attorney General if this was revealed while vetting her...yet we are trying to anoint her President?

Please people, take this seriously. Until this report that shows she broke the rules, I wasn't open to considering this as a legitimate issue against her, but I think now that it truly is legitimate.

And I am not one to look for reasons to hate her or deny her this win (there are enough valid reasons without making shit up)...I don't like her and I don't think she is qualified (for foreign policy if nothing else) to run this country, but I really hate the conspiracy theories...no matter whom they are addressing.

But this isn't conspiracy theory any more.

[CatWoman]

36. fuck Mika; fuck Morning Joe; fuck Chuck Todd

and fuck conspiracy theories

[passiveporcupine]

39. Yeah, fuck some real journalism for a change.

But you go with what you got...it ain't much.

[LovingA2andMI]

45. Real Journalism???

Out of the MSNBillClinton Network from Andrea Mitchell (HER Buddy) and Chuck Todd, no less?? It MUST be looking bad for HER. Real Bad...

[tomm2thumbs]

47. pretty sad

all these current issues still floating to the top for easy picking, and just around the corner, the GOP has already drained the swamp and have lined up months of sh*t to throw during the election. Swiftboating will look like a paddle boat swan ride when they're done. And her untrustworthy numbers will reinforce all that is tossed out. THAT is the difference between mere attacks, and attacks that STICK.

Why establishment Democrats think this chosen one is the best answer to follow President Obama in the White House is BEYOND REASON...

[CatWoman]

68. again:

fuck Mika; fuck Joe; fuck Chuck

and their bullshit disguised as "journalism"

Yes, I WILL go with that.

[passiveporcupine]

87. Everyone gets to make their own decisions.

I"m fine with that.

[CatWoman]

93. as am I

[passiveporcupine]

12. Please everyone...give this a kick

I know...it's shocking that this is on MSNBC, but this is a very important and relevant story right now.

K&R 1000

[jalan48]

15. Oops! Time to put more money in the "Correct the Record" account.

[SammyWinstonJack]

57. Ha!

[Cryptoad]

17. How much longer

will these Right Wing attacks on HRC45 be allowed on DU?????????

after June 7th will these ass holes go away or just change their usernames?

[Betty Karlson]

19. Clinton victimhood knee-jerk response # 2063.

pfffffff.... Could you guys at least make an effort of repeating that stuff in an original way? This ad nauseam repetition is not working, I tell you.

[Laser102]

28. President Hillary Clinton. Will that work. Acceptance is the first step.

[Betty Karlson]

32. Oh she will work - for the 1 %. Which doesn't work for me.

I'm done accepting the status quo. I certainly won't vote for it.

[Cryptoad]

35. Go vote for Trump,,,,,,, yall deserve each other.

[humbled_opinion]

61. Any vote for Hillary

Is effectively a vote for Trump because she can win with this email baggage over her head not possible the whole thing looks like a bunch of lies and cannot be blamed on anyone but herself....

[840high]

64. You mad?

[noiretextatique]

113. Vast GOP conspriracy, I tell you

But it seems the vast DLC conspriracy worked even better. We have people arguing FOR nominating a totally corrupt candidate.

[MFM008]

83. JUNE 14

its ALL over.

[Cryptoad]

94. is that the date when DU

becomes a "Democratic" Site again?

[AntiBank]

105. they are not "right wing" attacks, ffs, we DO NOT want Trumpf as POTUS, and each week that horrid

outcome is becoming progressively more likely.

The US body politic is not one giant "Hillary Clinton Group" on DU, no amount of trashing about and simply going snarky-smug authoritarian doublethink on us "rebel, crazy left wingers" is going to change that.

Completely putting aside my ideological differences with Clinton, she still is a tragically flawed candidate, and is spiralling down into levels of lies (ie. "I was allowed to have the private server" and "The rules were only changed after I left the State Dept&quot that any 4th grader can grasp as an untruth, a straightforward falsehood.

I do not want to wake up der Trumpf getting sworn in in as POTUS next winter, and from my vantage point, that possibility looms ever larger.

[BigBearJohn]

20. K/R

[BigBearJohn]

21. and here starts the Avalanche get out your snowshoes

[redstateblues]

26. Oh no- Republicans said something bad about Hillary. Imagine that

Of course The dead Enders post it here

[passiveporcupine]

40. Yeah, you go with that.

[redstateblues]

55. Whatever- can't wait til Bernie endorses Hillary and helps to get her elected

What will you post about then?

[passiveporcupine]

58. Whatever it takes to get dems elected.

Does that scare you?

Because I can tell you right now you guys scare the hell out of me, because you don't seem to give a shit about this country...it's all about Hillary or bust for you.

[840high]

66. Republicans?

[Kall]

29. JFC

Watching people try to spin this on her behalf is absolutely pathetic. Facts from Obama's IG and how what she said on video in the past completely independently of any "right wing conspiracy" contradict them just don't even matter. It's Bosnian Sniper Fire Part 2.

[tomm2thumbs]

33. it's a vast LEFT wing conspiracy now, apparently....

[ReRe]

92. ROFLMAO

[Loki]

34. Facts from the IG, did you read the report?

This has been going on for decades. The record keeping, which apparently is like printing a piece of paper containing the email and filing it in a box is their standard. Colin Powell didn't even bother to follow that one. The system is completely outdated and even diplomats in the field have no secure way to send information unless they are in their "safe" compound called an embassy. My email server is safer than the State Department, and Hillary was probably pretty smart to use her own. Do you even know what the standards for record keeping are? I have a son who works for the DHS in record keeping and it's still paper in paper files and it takes people to file them. I don't need to spin on her behalf, we have an out of date, unsafe and unsecure record keeping system that no one has taken seriously for a very long time until now. Of course we do an "investigation" because it's so much easier to "investigate" than to fix the damn thing. That takes money and people who actually want to get something done. Yeah, she's supposed to do this one all by herself. Bull shit.

[Kall]

38. Maybe you can explain how

"I'll cooperate fully with the investigation" means refusing to give an interview to the IG, but don't bother doing it to me with another batch of word salad.

[Loki]

74. How many emails did she turn over? Do you know?

Didn't think so. Do you know what the standards for preservation of records are as required by the National Archives and Records Administration? Tell me, since you seem to know it all.

[Kall]

84. You didn't explain the very simple contradiction

in refusing to cooperate after emphasizing that she would, and instead diverted into a complete non-sequitur, and we all know why.

[Loki]

30. Mika is straight out lying about having a functioning brain.

She and "breathless" Andrea together can't put together one complete thought.

[passiveporcupine]

43. Andrea has always been on Hillary's side

If you don't know this, then you haven't been paying attention.

The tide is shifting. It's not going to protect Hillary any more.

[Loki]

73. Bull, Andrea is on Andrea's side.

She had her head up Romney's ass so far you could see her when he smiled.

[840high]

67. Andrea is a big Hillary gal.

[ReRe]

91. Gurglqp-9348y1- 58u1qb

[tomm2thumbs]

31. I wonder if she can 'wipe' this video from the internet 'with a cloth or something'

Sooner or later, the truth does win

"As much as I’ve been investigated and all of that, you know, why would I —- I don’t even want -— why would I ever want to do e-mail?" she's seen on tape telling Peter Paul on home video captured at a fundraiser.

"Can you imagine?" she said.

.....

playing naive does not work in the age of YouTube -- enough pretending to be innocent about 'email' and 'complicated technology' -- Clinton knew EXACTLY what she was doing

[INdemo]

37. Just like George W and his military service records and now Hillary with her email

accounts,it will all be squashed soon and Hillary will return to her"by God its may turn and nothing,nothing or nobody is going to stop me" "even if I broke the rules." status.

[Enthusiast]

41. Holy shit!

[ffr]

42. Where's my Pinocchio?

Try as they may, try as they might. Do whatever it takes to keep this race close.



Wake me up when the M$M starts to talk substance.

[passiveporcupine]

52. Like the MSM hasn't been all about Hillary unitl this.

You don't get to ignore this...as much as you'd like to.

[ffr]

60. Yeah man!

Why even bother replying?

[shadowmayor]

44. I feel like

Every time I see or hear Mika or Joe my DNA degrades and my faith in humanity ceases.

[humbled_opinion]

56. That's because she is lying

It was never allowed and no other Secstate ever had their own private server in their home to handle all of their government email. It is clear now she did it to keep things away from FOIA requests....Bad judgment on her part.... It doesn't help for her to go out there over and over with the obfuscation and the lies.... this is exactly why Bernie would make a much better nominee than her.... and it's not too late...

[Loki]

69. Bernie is going home to Vermont.

The sooner the better.

[humbled_opinion]

85. Nope

He is going to Philly and hopefully the FBI will recommend her indictment by then and we can all come together and support a real Progressive and not have to hold our noses... or defend the indefensible.

[awoke_in_2003]

80. Why I will never take her seriously

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[KoKo]

81. MSM Source Goes Rogue and "Speaks the Truth"....Great Watch!

But, yeah, I know..."Consider the Source." But...still an Interesting Watch!

[MFM008]

82. The mouse that roared

Mika speaks.....................

[Ruby the Liberal]

88. They are following the script

Get it out now before the GE so she can get it behind her.

The only surprising thing is that Camp Clinton hasn't had a response yet.

[Mike Nelson]

89. Easy solution for Mika...

...Mika should vote for someone she does not call out as a liar - her "honest" pal Trump ...and, even better for Mika, he won't raise her taxes.

Let's put a Democrat in office and help point Mika to the more honest politician.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

90. The same Meeker who performs oral sex on Trump with their now daily phone call

After her handler Dead Intern Joe is done, of course.

[MrMickeysMom]

100. Some animals are more equal than other animals...

Lift up the rocks and see them scurry...

[Beaverhausen]

110. Mika sucks Trumps dick daily

Whoever gives a shit about what she thinks is just plain stupid.