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ancianita

(36,017 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:06 PM Jun 2016

Hillary: How Will You, As Commander-In-Chief, Deal With Military Rape

Victims must first tell their units' commanders, who are also often the commanders of the alleged perpetrators. Further complicating the matter is that for these commanders to prove an assault has occurred, they must also admit a failure of their own leadership.

As Bee points out, "Commanders can't indict a rapist without indicting themselves." That might explain why servicemen and women who do report an assault are 12 times more likely to suffer some form of retaliation than to see their offender convicted of sexual offense...

So why has the bill stalled? Not just because Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) suggested that military commanders would be replaced with lawyers, but because President Barack Obama has not endorsed it.

"If the president came out and supported this bill, it would be done," Gillibrand told Bee. "It would be over. He promised, I think now close to three years ago, that he was going to give the military one year to fix things. Well, I can show him this year's report...They have not fixed things...what happened to 'No Fucks Obama?'"

One of the most important points here is that this is not a women's issue.

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Hillary: How Will You, As Commander-In-Chief, Deal With Military Rape (Original Post) ancianita Jun 2016 OP
so I am wondering if the new Miss USA was raped while in the military? RussBLib Jun 2016 #1
A quick check tells me no. Besides, she was an officer. I'd think it's the enlisted non-coms who ancianita Jun 2016 #2

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
1. so I am wondering if the new Miss USA was raped while in the military?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jun 2016

I'm probably late to the conversation, but I remember hearing that 1 of 3 women in the military would be raped by their fellow soldiers or superiors. Would be rather striking, and tragic, to hear that it also happened to the new Miss USA.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
2. A quick check tells me no. Besides, she was an officer. I'd think it's the enlisted non-coms who
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jun 2016

likely bear the brunt of rape. But I haven't looked up stats on that.

I'm sure the CIC will have all those rape charge filings.
If she sees that, those superior officer rapists will do brig time.

I wouldn't say "it happens to" them, either. Weather happens. Men rape.

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