WATCH: Computer Programmer Testifies He Coded Computers To Rig Elections

[berniesandero]

The fact that this is not shouted across US media demonstrates that US "democracy" is a cruel hoax and the media is 100 percent complicit

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[elleng]

1. This is old testimony,

and the hoax has been apparent for anyone interested for years.

[TwilightZone]

2. Decade-plus-old hoax.

[elleng]

6. No hoax,

but it was (and appears still to be) convenient for many to ignore it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis

[TwilightZone]

8. You should have kept reading.

Feeney never met the guy, the machines weren't even considered until months after Curtis claims the hacking took place, and Curtis didn't mention it in his book four years later.

The guy is a fraud.

[elleng]

10. I read it all, and followed it in real time.

On April 9, 2005, the St. Petersburg Times published an article about Curtis's charges and potential Senate campaign, including a confirmation that Curtis had taken and passed a polygraph test regarding his charges.[2]
On August 10, 2006, the Orlando Weekly published an article surveying Curtis's charges, Feeney and Yang's responses, and the surrounding publicity.[4]
The documentary Murder, Spies & Voting Lies chronicled Clint Curtis's story was released in 2008 and won a number of awards, including best documentary at the New Jersey Film Festival.[10][17] Clint Curtis also appears in an interview in the documentary, Stealing America: Vote by Vote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Curtis


Twilight Zone indeed.

[TwilightZone]

14. You think news articles reiterating his allegations are proof?

Oh, please. His entire story is nonsense.

He created the vote-stealing hoax after his claims that his former employer was overbilling the Florida DOT fell apart. The allegations got him fired from the DOT, so he had an ax to grind. Enter Feeney.

He claimed that he was hired to falsify touch screen results in West Palm Beach in 2000. As is quite famously known, WPB didn't have touch screens. He later "clarified" that it could be used elsewhere.

His own website indicated that he hadn't actually written anything other than an outline of what the software might have looked like had someone pursued it and that he'd written no actual software.

A reporter (noted in the Wired story) who worked closely with him in 2002 to write several stories about his allegations against his former employer said he never said a word to her about the voting fraud allegations. Another person in the story said Curtis didn't even have access to the source code so couldn't have changed anything.

He's a fraud.

[zeemike]

18. Or the election is a fraud.

And denial is the cover for it.
It amazes me that we can be fooled so easily...even when we know that computers can be hacked and programs to cheat are so easy to write a child could do it.
But we must believe.

[nikto]

20. I would recommend taking this issue and your questions/doubts about it to The Bradcast

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IMO, Brad Friedman is the best single source for all things relating to election fraud.

For any questions,
I say, ask Brad Friedman himself, by posting on his site.
He answers all serious questions
on election integrity issues on the Bradcast, weekdays:

http://www.bradblog.com/

If the guy mentioned above, Curtis, is a hoax, Brad will confirm it, or not, if it isn't.
Bradblog helped break the story at the time, but perhaps, new info has come up
which disproves the original story?

If so, then HE (Brad) is the guy to take issue with.
In which case ...
Good luck with that.

If that is indeed the case (not a hoax in Brad's estimate),
I'd love to hear the exchange between you 2.
Brad is way too smart for any BS.

Arguing on DU is one thing, but here in Progressive America (at least with Bradblog)
you can talk directly with the source,
and in this case, BRAD is it.

Not saying you'd disagree. But if so ...

You could even call him & do it ON AIR.

Election fraud in America is REAL.

At this point,I can't vouch for or against this Curtis guy, in particular (Brad hasn't reported on him in a while).

But massive election fraud has been and IS STILL HAPPENING
in the USA.

You do understand that fact, right?

And please, if you have the wherewithall to factually disagree with him,
talk to Brad, by all means.

[LittleGirl]

25. Indeed, Been following Brad for years. eom

[Sweeties Mama]

32. Yes, computers are hackable. And there

is no reason to think there aren't people who would do it for money (or power). It has been done for lottery winnings. Go listen.

From bradblog: http://bradblog.com/?p=11132

"So if one guy can do it with all the security measures (and lottery dollars are government money) and only get caught because he can't figure out how to cash the ticket...

He did this for a measly $14 mil; what's a state wide or national election worth? Either in dollars for the mercenary, or in effort for the true believers?

Explain again how electronic voting is secure? This sure looks like a contrary proof to me."

[MrMickeysMom]

37. And, we have your rant as "proof"...

That's rich.

[Stevepol]

30. It is absolute truth. The guy is honest. Check out Brad Friedman. You are the fraud

and if not a troll a patsy for the voting machines. Are you working for ES&S? Friedman has been at the center of trying to make people aware of what's happening with our voting machines from the very beginning. He played a central role in the video documentary about Curtis that won some awards when it was first issued some years ago.

Nobody knows if Feeney actually made use of the prototype that Curtis put together, but the intent is absolutely clear as shown in the documentary. If anybody is interested in checking into it just go to bradblog.com and maybe get a copy of the video, MURDER, SPIES AND VOTING LIES, which details what happened when Curtis realized what was going on at Yang and the complicity of the corrupt FL Repubs and Bushies.

For those interested in buying here's a link:

https://www.amazon.com/Murder-Spies-Voting-Clint-Curtis/dp/B001FCLQ78?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001FCLQ78&linkCode=as2&redirect=true&tag=tbb-20

This all happened in FL, which was then and still is a cesspool of corruption and cronyism and very likely even mafia-like murder.

When will Dems realize that YOU CAN'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY IF THE VOTE COUNT CANNOT BE VERIFIED OR IS NEVER VERIFIED???? The only way that this can be made right is if enough Dems or the right Dems take Curtis's warning seriously and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!

[kadaholo]

3. The Institute for American Democracy and Election Integrity...

...takes this video quite seriously! See their video Protecting Our Elections at http://trustvote.org/ .

[TwilightZone]

4. They don't even mention it. Stop the spam, please.

[kadaholo]

9. Obviously you didn't take time to see the video.

Oh my!

[MrMickeysMom]

38. They do...

Do you need a device to help your eyes or ears? It would be lovely to be of assistance to you.

[Phlem]

5. Greatest way to have a post sink. Post the truth.

I'ved worked with programmers for 15+ years deep in math and 3D in the tech field. It's painfully simple to lodge code anywhere in a program to perform a task which can be written in such a way to be camouflaged.
Essentially all your doing is switching a one for a zero.

No other way to say it.

[elleng]

7. You got it, Phlem.

Happens all the time.

[kadaholo]

11. +100

[840high]

12. yes - inconvenient truth.

[Duval]

13. That's correct.

Denial, denial, when presented with the truth.

[elleng]

15. and just keeps on keeping on!

[RoccoR5955]

17. Yep

I have worked with programmers for the past 25 years, in the government field. These guys could put code anywhere in the program to flip votes in their freakin' sleep. And as you say, it is easy to camouflage this code, by doing what malware and virus writers have been doing for many years. We have a few bright script kiddies who can do it as well. Even some of the old COBOL programmers know how it can be done.
But people don't want to hear the truth, I guess.

[rjsquirrel]

29. You've "worked with programmers?"

Of you are one?

Cuz what you wrote suggests a very limited knowledge of how commercial code is produced and audited.

[Phlem]

41. uh huh. Okee Dokee.

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Technical 3d art lead, Scripting, currently teaching myself c# so I can make my own games. I know enough to know it can be done no matter what anyone says chief.

If voting machines were built by a company do they have a verification process so the public can analyze the code, you know since they are public voting machines? Are those audits being verified by unbiased entities?
When people crack software, is their code easily discernable from whatever they've added during the cracking process.

How do people crack and break into networks? Cause they're so fucking secure?

code can be cracked chief especially if it's written to enable it in a particular way.

We in the tech industry call them "features" sarcastically, other might call them bugs, but you already know that don't you.

I started in 1995 before games became fully 3d and I've been in DU for 10+ years.

You joined in 2014 and you know everything about anything? You're no different than rest of your "new associates whom have joined recently, and talk with authority to people whom have already been there and done that, for fucking years.

http://columbusfreepress.com/article/diebold-indicted-its-spectre-still-haunts-ohio-elections

If you know ANYTHING about tech and code especially, you know there are always ways to get around blocks. Always.

[rjsquirrel]

44. I've been writing code since 1980

albeit I became a scientist.

[Phlem]

45. Well good for you. I've had a subscription to

Scientific American for 10 years and New Scientist for 5. Wish I could have had the opportunity to get into science because I would have loved it but that's not always how life works.

[reformist2]

16. It's only a hoax when Repugs are doing it. Dems never steal elections. Esp not from each other!

OMG, it's so easy to be a credulous pleb.

[BainsBane]

21. And this denial by the remaining Bernie supporters is a perfect example

of not only willingness to believe any self serving argument without evidence, but an impenetrable sense of self entitlement that justifies their complete dismissal of the votes and rights of 16 million Democrats. That something is possible doesn't mean it happened.


That we here this from the same people who insisted the voters in the South shouldn't count, that complained that the elderly and disabled with allowed to cast absentee ballots in caucuses, or that Nevadans dareded to register on caucus day. Then most absurdly they insisted problems in predominately non-white precincts deprived Bernie wins, even though those same precincts heavily favored Clinton and polling always showed Bernie trailing hugely among Latinos and especially Latin Americans. Bernie supporters cried fraud every single time voters in a state failed to vote as they demanded. When polls showed Bernie losing, they even cried fraud before voting took place. Ultimately, the "fraud" was that Americans dared to believe they have a right to cast their votes as they saw fit. Then we had ongoing arguments that elections should't even matter, than the corporate media polls showing Bernie doing better against Trump should take precedence over the votes of mere citizens. Given all that, pretending some great concern about voting rights is utterly unconvincing.

Throughout this primary we have seen Bernie refuse to devote resources to organizing efforts, despite outspending Clinton 2-1, and his supporters refuse to do the work necessary to turn out votes. They instead have argued that they were owed power, simply by virtue that they see themselves as superior to the majority. Political science shows how elections are won, and it requires personal, positive contact directly with voters. Not tee vee or rock star areas, but get out the vote efforts. Instead, they spent this entire campaign, from Netroots on, insulting voters. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that's not a winning strategy, but they did it anyway because ultimately they couldn't help but reveal what they really resented--Democratic voters. This is a mere continuation of that same effort. Why bother working to win elections when they are so convinced they are simply owed power?


It was obvious two months ago to even Bernie's campaign staff that he wasn't going to win the nomination two months ago, as they disclosed to Politico last week. Some are moving on to work for Clinton's campaign, as is usual when primaries wind down. The political experts don't think Bernie was robbed the election, and even Bernie himself conceded this week that the DNC didn't tip the scales against him. It's time to start dealing with reality and stop making excuses, particularly when those excuses involve erasing the votes of the Democratic majority.

[rjsquirrel]

28. Truth spoken here ^^^^. eom

[Stevepol]

34. Why are you still trying to beat Bernie?

You better wake up and realize that the danger with the voting machines is maybe Hillary's biggest threat right now. Those of us concerned about the stealing of elections are concerned about FAIR elections, not necessarily elections that end as we would like them to.

The concern is that these machines are easily, EASILY, rigged no matter what defenses are used, especially by insiders who have a few minutes' access to the machines, and particularly the central tabulators.

I know nothing will come of this latest tempest in a teapot because the Dems are blissfully unaware of what's happening and refuse to pay attention to the experts that have been telling the same story for many years now, including Republicans and those of other parties who are just as concerned as Dems that our elections are no longer being decided by the actual vote but by the particular hack or rigging that insiders are able to plant in a matter of seconds inside the machine at any point in the voting process.

[blackspade]

35. Still can't resist the Sanders bashing.

I guess you had to get it in before the deadline.

[MrMickeysMom]

39. You only speak for yourself, BB...

So, don't be disingenuous with your crying here.

The "remaining" supporters didn't suddenly drop off the end of the earth, as you might have wished.

[OldRedneck]

19. Critical facts are missing

I'm a member of the electoral board in a rural Virginia county. I know electoral board members and registrars all over Virginia.

When it comes election time, we do not simply pull the voting machines out of the closet and haul them out to the polls.

Voting machines contain programmable media that contains the names of candidates, the positions for which they are running, and other election-specific information. The media consists of either USB drives or proprietary memory cards.

We have --locked in our vault under two=person control -- keys that are unique to each voting machine.

The media is programmed by programmers that are certified and inspected by the state electoral board.

When our programmed media is sent to us, it cannot be loaded into a machine without our key.

Once we load the media into the machines, we conduct on each machine a logic and accuracy test. That is:
-- In the case of optical scanners, we mark 2-3 dozen ballots. In marking the ballots, we cast one vote for each candidate. On some ballots we "overvote" -- vote for too many candidates. We mark some ballots with stray marks. Essentially, we mark ballots in every possible way. We then feed the marked ballots into the scanner. WE KNOW WHAT THE RESULT SHOULD BE BECAUSE WE MARKED THE BALLOTS. If the machine does not produce the result that we know it should produce, that machine is called out of service and we call the techs.

-- In the case of touch-screen machines, we calibrate the screens then run the same logic and accuracy testing.

Everything is then sealed; seal numbers recorded; machines go in the vault until election day.

In addition to machine security, there are double-checks.
-- When you check in to vote, you are counted in a pollbook. The number of ballots cast should equal the number of people checked in the pollbook. Our poll workers are required to check the pollbook count against the machine count EVERY 15 MINUTES throughout the day. If the counts do not equal, they stop voting and determine where the problem came from.
-- Spoiled ballots and provisional ballots also are counted so every ballot is accounted for and matched with the pollbook count.

From time to time, one of our local crackpots starts raising hell about machines not counting his vote. Not a single complaint has ever proved out.

[GoneFishin]

22. All of the steps you recite are placebo. Nothing you mention prevents the existence of vote

flipping code embedded in the software.

I know I could do it in ways that you would never be able to test for it. Probably 1% of the people on this site could probably also do it.

[BainsBane]

23. What "could happen" is not evidence for what actually did happen

Evidence, not theory. Without substantial evidence that shows the results were changed in a large number of states, this is nothing more than self-serving excuses.

It's been obvious for months that Bernie would not win. Even his campaign staff knew it. It's time for his supporters to accept the fact that other Americans also have rights and to start moving on.

People here even cried fraud in Puerto Rico, which doesn't use voting machines at all. The excuses are constant and ever changing, and no small number of them involved expressions of outrage that people were allowed to vote who those Bernie supporters didn't think should.

[GoneFishin]

24. Hundreds of accounts of cheating including video, and red-shifted exit polls do the rest.

[swhisper1]

26. very probable

[13Dogs]

31. Ohio 2004 is a Perfect Example of Election Flipping

You can see why the Republican apologists are so upset about this. If they can't rig elections they'd never win anything. The only people they serve are the 1%, their policies put the screws to everyone else, so it's no surprise that they'd have to find ways to steal elections. What is surprising is that they routinely get away with it because most American's would rather live in denial, than believe that their democracy is being subverted by a small group of zealots like Twilight Zone.
Time to clamp down on these treasonous bastards.

[L. Coyote]

42. Ohio 2004 was a punch cardf election, so this video is irrelevant to how Ohio voters were switched.

How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes

In the few Ohio counties that votes on Diebold machines the shift was blue and the undervotes were few. Diebold machjibnes made the Ohio elections much fairer than the punch cards ever were.

The Ohio punch card system was designed to steal votes, and they stole votes in the African-American communities. It was a racist as it was fraudulent.

Download vote_switching.ppt featuring highlights from the study.

[Scuba]

33. In 2009, Dems in DC has a chance to protect our votes and elections. They passed.

Kinda like Florida 2000 never happened.

Kinda like Ohio 2004 never happened.






A more cynical observer might conclude that Dems in DC don't give a shit about voting rights or fair elections.






.

[blackspade]

36. +1000

[MrMickeysMom]

40. Got an hour and a half?

If not, bookmark it -

http://www.stealingamericathemovie.org

[L. Coyote]

43. We also produced this film: