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Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)(sorry, couldn't resist the Star Wars ref.)
There will always be a new best hope. And if we get Clinton and say...Warren, and enough down-ticket races to swing a few House and Senate races the laws of our country will begin to shift back to the Left. And then the next Dem candidate will be even more progressive & less corporatist. I like to think maybe we've finally reached the breaking point and perhaps the swing back has begun.
Night Watchman
(743 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)K&R
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... and that was ultimately his undoing.
So Bernie took Goldman Sachs money? News to me.
Cher
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... with the discussion at hand?
LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)Lying about a Democratic candidate. What does that have to do with anything at all?
I love how some of you can twist third party positive comments on Bernie, as somehow him bragging about himself. While I understand completely, that when one has nothing else, some must resort to lying and distortions and insults.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... " Only in his own mind ... and that was ultimately his undoing."
I'm trying to figure out how THAT remark equates to "lying about a Democratic candidate", or "resorting to lying, distortion and insults".
LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)That was a perfectly innocuous comment.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Bernie made the mistake of actually embracing the hype that he was the Great Saviour of the nation.
I fail to see where that statement constitutes " "lying about a Democratic candidate", or "resorting to lying, distortion and insults".
LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)In Hillary's mind, she thinks she is the Great Saviour of the nation. And she has embraced the hype (about becoming the first woman president?)
The implication being that she is a megalomaniac with a God complex and that in her primary run was simply blinded by others hype about her.
Would you say this is truthful? That its not a distortion? That its not an insult to Hillary?
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If you had said - Bernie himself was confident that his platform was the best solution for the country to begin to address the inequalities in the system, but I personally don't think it would have worked - It would have been taken differently.
Why be a sore winner?
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... Bernie Sanders went from being a little-known politician from a small state to being the centre of attention - not just national, but international attention.
Suddenly he was drawing huge crowds, appearing on political programs, late-night talk shows, and the cover of magazines. His every utterance was reported, discussed, repeated, and journalists clamoured for his opinion on every topic imaginable. His name was on billboards and yardsigns; his image was on T-shirts and banners.
It went to his head - and quickly so. When his supporters started saying that only Bernie could save democracy, only Bernie could achieve progressive goals, only Bernie could beat Trump in the GE, he actually started to believe it. And it showed.
I think that's why he refuses to concede, refuses to endorse HRC, refuses to even acknowledge that he lost the primary. He doesn't want to leave the spotlight after living in its glow for over a year, and he's come to believe that Bernie Sanders the celebrity is far more important than anything he hoped to accomplish.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)GET THE FUCK OVER IT
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Now where have we heard that before?
Skittles
(153,138 posts)IT FITS
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)Mike Malloy... and others, underestimate their own power. Sanders is a good man, I like him, like his policies, his ideas... I've got a lot of admiration and respect for him and all the work he's done - and for his integrity. He is, however, still one person among many. Many who have the same ideas, the same drive, the same goals, the same integrity and desire to work for change.
His supporters - for one thing - many of them young people and millenials who, for the first time, became interested in politics and felt that they had the power to influence change. We all have that power. None of this has been just about Sanders. It's about US. All of us, working together to accomplish what we believe in. The things Sanders believes in and fights for - so do we all - and I for one, have no intention of stopping.
There is no last hope as long as there are some of us left - and there's a whole lot of us who will be here for years to come, ready to carry on the fight. We may not get everything we want right away, but we're getting some things (check out the new platform) and we WILL get more in the months and years to come. We just have to stay positive and keep fighting for it. No reason we can't elect more progressives, run for office ourselves, campaign, organize, get involved in our communities and in the world at large in pursuit of all the noble things we struggle for.
Sanders is a great person - but he is one person. It is all of us, working together - and not him alone - that will bring the changes, the progress... and the hope, that we need.
nikto
(3,284 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Avalon Sparks
(2,563 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)Its a headline that says Sanders WAS the last best hope.
Relax, we have excepted that we have lost our chance, unfortunately.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)PJMcK
(22,023 posts)Why is Mr. Malloy continuing on this path? Isn't the Democratic Primary over? I like Senator Sanders, too, but that ship has sailed.
Additionally, it's insulting to everyone else who is trying to make our country more progressive. Will they fail because Senator Sanders lost? What about the future leaders? Are their efforts doomed before they've even begun? There are many of us who will continue to strive for a better nation to live in. Are our efforts hopeless?
Mr. Malloy is wrong. There are many hopes for our future. To think other wise is peculiarly cynical and craven.
KeizoOshima2
(17 posts)Bernie as president would probably have been the best thing to occur for this country. Still, I'm okay with HRC, as she is a billion times better than Drumpf.
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