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Oh fuck this bravenak Jan 2017 #1
I'm just sure you meant to say "oh fuck him" (Booker) ciaobaby Jan 2017 #2
No. I mean fuck this bravenak Jan 2017 #10
Booker , et al , are denigrating our party by voting with republicans when we need to be united. ciaobaby Jan 2017 #13
Bullshit bravenak Jan 2017 #29
And Booker being the largest Democratic recipient of Big Pharma contributions had nothing at all . . markpkessinger Jan 2017 #20
Probably not. Bernie refuses to make friends and negotiate bravenak Jan 2017 #30
Yeah, and that guy had to throw in "if the one in the hospital had shown up". These guys are... George II Jan 2017 #35
It's fucking annoying bravenak Jan 2017 #38
Is anyone concerned about how Dianne Feinstein is doing? Of course not, but... George II Jan 2017 #39
Of course not bravenak Jan 2017 #44
K&R CentralMass Jan 2017 #3
To think of the number of times Democratic Party loyalists like me have been called totalitarians, baldguy Jan 2017 #4
Precisely. But they "excuse" Sanders when he votes for questionable legislation or... George II Jan 2017 #36
I appreciate the news reporting. Thanks for the post. Equinox Moon Jan 2017 #5
Combine the best of Booker and Sanders, and we'll have a great candidate. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #6
My mother, before she died, would go on those seniors bus tours to Canada.... 4bucksagallon Jan 2017 #7
You might want to read the amendment. George II Jan 2017 #40
Achilles Heel HassleCat Jan 2017 #8
Bernie has a D minus rating from the NRA. CentralMass Jan 2017 #9
Bernie's real achilles heel is that he turns off large portions of the democratic base bravenak Jan 2017 #11
Maybe you should stop feeling that "black folks" are the only people that... 4bucksagallon Jan 2017 #15
I did not say cater to, I said not turn completely off bravenak Jan 2017 #28
What does the NRA hve to do with this ammendment to allow INdemo Jan 2017 #45
I bet if Bernie had a (D) behind his name Booker and the others would have voted with him. Right? jalan48 Jan 2017 #12
Maybe if he had a wad of cash CentralMass Jan 2017 #14
Are you kidding? BainsBane Jan 2017 #26
Just a guess but probably not. dgauss Jan 2017 #16
Exactly. tecelote Jan 2017 #31
No. Democrats also voted on drug re-importation and didn't pass it for the ACA. Eric J in MN Jan 2017 #17
Amy Klobuchar co sponsered this bill; it wasn't an anti Bernie but a pro-big pharma vote by 13 Dems stuffmatters Jan 2017 #18
This is correct and if the Dems can't stand together on something like this elmac Jan 2017 #43
So....this among many other situations INdemo Jan 2017 #47
Perhaps if he'd taken the bill seriously enough BainsBane Jan 2017 #27
It's a good thing all those Republicans and that handful of Democrats saw through Bernie's ruse. jalan48 Jan 2017 #42
Booker and the other Democrats didn't "screw Bernie Sanders" with this vote . . . markpkessinger Jan 2017 #19
That's an accurate, less divisive way of expressing it! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #22
Hiding behind the excuse of "upholding FDA standards" . . . markpkessinger Jan 2017 #21
It reminds me of the BS argument that a company named Genentech tried... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #23
One of Rudy Giuliani's first jobs... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #34
Democratic party Members only from now on.......thanks. stonecutter357 Jan 2017 #24
Yeah. That'll do it. tecelote Jan 2017 #33
The title certainly shows priorities BainsBane Jan 2017 #25
I doubt that anyone complaining here even knows what the amendment was about, nor..... George II Jan 2017 #37
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #32
#NeverBooker Already? otohara Jan 2017 #50
WHY BOOKER VOTED AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT!!!!! George II Jan 2017 #41
this is a poor excuse for someone elmac Jan 2017 #46
Thank you! mcar Jan 2017 #48
Well the video took a shot at Feinstein for "not showing up", never considering... George II Jan 2017 #49
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
10. No. I mean fuck this
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:13 AM
Jan 2017

If the framing is going to continue to be Bernie vs. Democrats, then there is no way to bridge the divide. Maybe if bernie had found common cause with democrats in our establishment, he coulda convinced Booker to vote his way. Instead he chooses to denigrate our party, no surprise that he cannot herd those cats.

 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
13. Booker , et al , are denigrating our party by voting with republicans when we need to be united.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:21 AM
Jan 2017

markpkessinger

(8,927 posts)
20. And Booker being the largest Democratic recipient of Big Pharma contributions had nothing at all . .
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:25 AM
Jan 2017

. . . to do with this. Please.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
30. Probably not. Bernie refuses to make friends and negotiate
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:58 AM
Jan 2017

Might be easier to pass if you alllow other senators to share their concerns before hand. The democratic party owes him nothing

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. Yeah, and that guy had to throw in "if the one in the hospital had shown up". These guys are...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:23 AM
Jan 2017

...unbelievable.

Seems like some go out of their way to find things to criticize Democrats. How DARE she have surgery, how inconsiderate!!!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
38. It's fucking annoying
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jan 2017

They hate democrats but cannot build a coalition without the bulk of the votes coming from democrats. Maybe insulting democrats all day everyday is not helpful to getting anything passed

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Is anyone concerned about how Dianne Feinstein is doing? Of course not, but...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:38 AM
Jan 2017

....she should have showed up yesterday to vote.

At least she wasn't off buying a vacation home on Lake Champlain.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
44. Of course not
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jan 2017

Democrats have on duty; to serve the interests of BS. We are not allowed to get pacemakers to prevent our own demise if that conflicts with doing what BS tells us to

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
4. To think of the number of times Democratic Party loyalists like me have been called totalitarians,
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:35 PM
Jan 2017

Corporatists and worse over the last year by people extolling the "virtues" of being independent of the supposed boot-heel of the DNC, just because we stressed the need for the Party to stick together, with one message, one face & one voice to counter the fascist Republicans - finding these Dem-hating & Clinton-hating "liberals" criticizing Booker et. al. for doing the exact same thing they advocated for is highly amusing.

Not.

George II

(67,782 posts)
36. Precisely. But they "excuse" Sanders when he votes for questionable legislation or...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:28 AM
Jan 2017

..votes against good legislation, with the typical excuse "it would have passed anyway" or "it would have lost anyway".

If any of these so-called "analysts" would actually READ what the amendment was perhaps they wouldn't have been so critical. But that takes time, and who has time when there's a chance to bash Democrats?

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
5. I appreciate the news reporting. Thanks for the post.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:36 PM
Jan 2017

Sad day for Dems with this vote. Sad day indeed.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
6. Combine the best of Booker and Sanders, and we'll have a great candidate.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:39 PM
Jan 2017

Booker is known for his civil rights fights whereas Sanders didn't fare as well with that message (fair or not).

I'm concerned about the influence of money in politics, so I'm not too keen on Booker for that reason.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/why-do-liberals-hate-cory-booker/278992/

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
7. My mother, before she died, would go on those seniors bus tours to Canada....
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:40 PM
Jan 2017

from Maine with only one purpose, that was to buy their life saving drugs at a price they could afford. How can anyone call themselves a progressive and block this measure? TYT are spot on with the assessment that it's easy to talk the talk when your not going against your big money donors. These kinds of people are not true progressives. Bernie is and always has been and he can call himself a Democratic socialist all he wants. He is proof that this is the leadership America needed but now will not have....

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
8. Achilles Heel
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:44 PM
Jan 2017

Every politician has one. Bernie Sanders has the gun industry. Cory Booker has big pharma.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
11. Bernie's real achilles heel is that he turns off large portions of the democratic base
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:16 AM
Jan 2017

Namely minorities. I see folks are still surprised when black folks don't hop to when Bernie says jump. Now, if he wants to work with democrats maybe he should stop insulting the entire party.

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
15. Maybe you should stop feeling that "black folks" are the only people that...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:30 AM
Jan 2017

progressive democrats should cater to. It's a big country, blacks are still only about 13% of the population and many of them don't vote for whatever reason, certainly not this year in percentages that win national elections.... I'll turn the tables on you. You want your own party.... start your own party. Now where have I heard that before?

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
45. What does the NRA hve to do with this ammendment to allow
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:48 AM
Jan 2017

Canadian pharmaceuticals imported?

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
12. I bet if Bernie had a (D) behind his name Booker and the others would have voted with him. Right?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jan 2017

dgauss

(1,560 posts)
16. Just a guess but probably not.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:52 AM
Jan 2017

And if Sanders did finally put on the (D), those who don't like Sanders now would move their focus away from the (D) to some other reason to dismiss him.

Eric J in MN

(35,639 posts)
17. No. Democrats also voted on drug re-importation and didn't pass it for the ACA.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:36 AM
Jan 2017

Bernie Sanders didn't introduce that ACA amendment.

stuffmatters

(2,580 posts)
18. Amy Klobuchar co sponsered this bill; it wasn't an anti Bernie but a pro-big pharma vote by 13 Dems
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 01:47 AM
Jan 2017

And, yeah, it's why Dems can't even stand together for even the most common sense start to reducing big Pharma's deadly fleecing of Americans.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
43. This is correct and if the Dems can't stand together on something like this
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:44 AM
Jan 2017

then the parties future looks very bleak. They better get their shit together quick or the fascists will have their way for not only 8 years but for decades.

INdemo

(7,024 posts)
47. So....this among many other situations
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jan 2017

is another example that The Corporate mafia owns many of Democrats..Once again dont expect any change in 2018 midterm when there are those Democrats that like the status quo and I'll bet those 12 Democrats just got a hefty bonus Constitution from the pharmaceutical
companies.

BainsBane

(57,771 posts)
27. Perhaps if he'd taken the bill seriously enough
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:04 AM
Jan 2017

To talk to other senators about their concerns and made modifications, like specifying precisely what safety meant? But then he never intended it to be law, did he?



jalan48

(14,914 posts)
42. It's a good thing all those Republicans and that handful of Democrats saw through Bernie's ruse.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:41 AM
Jan 2017

markpkessinger

(8,927 posts)
19. Booker and the other Democrats didn't "screw Bernie Sanders" with this vote . . .
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:20 AM
Jan 2017

. . . they screwed the American people.

markpkessinger

(8,927 posts)
21. Hiding behind the excuse of "upholding FDA standards" . . .
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:30 AM
Jan 2017

. . .Give me a fucking break! And besides, if Americans are willing to trust the judgment of Canadian regulators -- and I, for one, would probably place more confidence in them than I would in oiur own FDS -- why should we be prohibited from doing so? We don't need this kind of paternalistic 'protection' from Booker or anybody else. I mean, it's fucking Canada already -- it's not like we're tlaking about Somalia or something!

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
23. It reminds me of the BS argument that a company named Genentech tried...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:42 AM
Jan 2017

a few years ago.

I get injections of a drug named "Avastin" in my eyeballs periodically to drastically slow down eventual blindness.

Genentech scientists developed the drug to treat colon cancer (as an IV drip), but it didn't have a good reputation for that treatment and hospitals often had unused bags of it.

Some ophthalmologists in Florida decided to test the drug, in tiny doses injected directly into the eyeballs, as a treatment for macular degeneration. It worked great! In short time, many other ophthalmologists and retinologists started buying unused IV bags of Avastin from hospitals, dividing the drug into many tiny doses for direct injection.

Meanwhile, Genentech decided to develop their own "eye drug" based on Avastin, calling it Lucentis. If I'd been forced to pay for Lucentis instead of Avastin, I would've paid about $2000 per shot instead of $300 each!

Genentech then appealed to the government to make Avastn eye injections illegal, supposedly out of concern for the "safety" of patients who might get tainted small doses that weren't subdivided in sterile conditions!

Yeah, I'm sure that "safety" was their main concern! Greedy MF'ers!

Eye doctors around the country made a big stink about it, and they essentially said they were going to keep doing it anyway, and Genentech eventually backed off.

They still scored a "financial win" by getting Medicare/Medicaid to pay for the more expensive Lucentis but not Avastin, though!

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,472 posts)
34. One of Rudy Giuliani's first jobs...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 08:33 AM
Jan 2017

..... after being "America's Mayor" was shilling for pharma by using his "security street cred" he somehow gained by being mayor of NYC when it got hit.

He ran around all the news media worrying about how importing drugs from Canada could be dangerous and maybe, just maybe, be a source of terrorist attack.

Now some of our own people are pulling the same shit.

tecelote

(5,156 posts)
33. Yeah. That'll do it.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 07:10 AM
Jan 2017

We'll be stronger all alone. We don't need no one else.

We lost on so many levels and we can do it again!!

BainsBane

(57,771 posts)
25. The title certainly shows priorities
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:00 AM
Jan 2017

As long as you cast issues in terms of what Bernie is owed, you're going to generate opposition. While Bernie Sanders supporters may believe him more important than every other human being on the planet, we all don't subscribe to the positivist, great man view of politics. Some of us actually believe all human beings are created equal.
.
It is intersting that the day Obamacare is repealed, the only thing the Bernie people care about is that everyone didn't vote for an amendment that was never going to pass. The people who are about to lose their healthcare don't rate compared to the far more important issue of obeying Bernie.



George II

(67,782 posts)
37. I doubt that anyone complaining here even knows what the amendment was about, nor.....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:31 AM
Jan 2017

....did they bother to read why Booker and others voted against it.

It was a weak and vague amendment. Of course, look at who "wrote" it.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
41. WHY BOOKER VOTED AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT!!!!!
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:40 AM
Jan 2017

“I support the importation of prescription drugs as a key part of a strategy to help control the skyrocketing cost of medications.

Any plan to allow the importation of prescription medications should also include consumer protections that ensure foreign drugs meet American safety standards.

I opposed an amendment put forward last night that DIDN'T MEET THIS TEST.

The rising cost of medications is a life-and-death issue for millions of Americans, which is why I also voted FOR amendments last night that bring drug prices down and protect Medicare’s prescription drug benefit.

I’m committed to finding solutions that allow for prescription drug importation with adequate safety standards.”

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
46. this is a poor excuse for someone
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 09:49 AM
Jan 2017

who has to chose between paying the rent or paying for medication each month.

mcar

(46,170 posts)
48. Thank you!
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 10:11 AM
Jan 2017

I find it - interesting - that some of Bernie's fans are singling out Booker for their scorn.

George II

(67,782 posts)
49. Well the video took a shot at Feinstein for "not showing up", never considering...
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jan 2017

...the reason why she didn't.

She was having a pacemaker installed. How inconsiderate of her, didn't she know that "Bernie" had an amendment up for a vote? Damned Democrat!!!

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