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EarlG

(21,947 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:30 PM Jan 2017

Pic Of The Moment: Trump's Infrastructure Plan: Brought To You By The Makers Of Trump University



Top Senate Democrat blasts developer tax credit for infrastructure

Build He Won’t



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Pic Of The Moment: Trump's Infrastructure Plan: Brought To You By The Makers Of Trump University (Original Post) EarlG Jan 2017 OP
Fasten your seatbelts, kids, it's Mr. Toad's wild ride 2naSalit Jan 2017 #1
The fleecing of America ffr Jan 2017 #2
On the side of big business. Certainly not ours. PatrickforO Jan 2017 #10
Trump and Idi Amin on spending money keithbvadu2 Jan 2017 #13
Make America Broke Again!!! Initech Jan 2017 #3
That's the one thing you can bet he will accomplish. lark Jan 2017 #6
Sad and true. ffr Jan 2017 #11
F that guy. nt irisblue Jan 2017 #4
Up goes inflation as shipping goods gets more expensive on all those toll bridges... Johonny Jan 2017 #5
Or More Of It Gets Diverted To Rail DallasNE Jan 2017 #16
Yet again... Mark.Gray Jan 2017 #7
In his speech he did say first that he was going to make America wealthy again Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #8
couldn't ask 4 a more crony fascist idea. Glad we avoided that corporate witch HRC, millenials who Bill USA Jan 2017 #9
When a real estate developer says, "Drain the swamp"... Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #12
Privatize profits and collectivize losses and liabilities. keithbvadu2 Jan 2017 #14
What Problem Would The Trump Plan Fix? DallasNE Jan 2017 #15
Jobs... Blanks Jan 2017 #19
Lack of this sort of graft is clearly one of the reasons Rs blocked infrastructure projects Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #17
The Art of the Steal IronLionZion Jan 2017 #18

ffr

(22,670 posts)
2. The fleecing of America
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:51 PM
Jan 2017

Put a snazzy title to it, like America Back to Work Infrastructure Bill, but what's in it is a means to loot the public.

63 Million Joe and Jane Hoodwinks really fucked us on this one. Thanks guys! Whose side are you on???

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
10. On the side of big business. Certainly not ours.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 09:19 PM
Jan 2017

The taxpayers are just a cash cow for these people.

keithbvadu2

(36,802 posts)
13. Trump and Idi Amin on spending money
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:07 AM
Jan 2017

Trump and Idi Amin on spending money

http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1290570/44-money-uganda

A story is told of a former Governor of Bank of Uganda who was killed after defying orders from President Idi Amin to print money. It is reported that Joseph Mubiru, was summoned by Amin and asked to release money urgently. The governor told Amin that the treasury did not have money. -

Mark.Gray

(12 posts)
7. Yet again...
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jan 2017
This is, like so much else, sheer madness - the 1% of the 1% (just 32,000 Americans) will clearly never relinquish their hold upon us until, as a nation, we break that hold...

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
8. In his speech he did say first that he was going to make America wealthy again
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 04:37 PM
Jan 2017

One can see what Trump sees as America ......... the wealthy need all the help he can give them

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
9. couldn't ask 4 a more crony fascist idea. Glad we avoided that corporate witch HRC, millenials who
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:13 PM
Jan 2017

didn't vote????

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
12. When a real estate developer says, "Drain the swamp"...
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 11:58 PM
Jan 2017

...it's because they want to build on it.

But as the comment above me said, it was Clinton that was "crooked" and "too tied to corporations", right?

And btw, this technique of privatizing previously public works is far more crooked than this synopsis voiced; typically, local governmentt still holds all liability. A great example is the Doyle Drive project in San Francisco, for anyone curious about how this form of privatization works.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
15. What Problem Would The Trump Plan Fix?
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:24 AM
Jan 2017

There aren't that many new roads that need to be built. We have many roads that need to be upgraded.

Let's say that we have an Interstate that is congested with 3 lanes of traffic each direction. The logical solution would be to expand it to 4 lanes each direction, and all that that would entail. That highway is currently funded 90% federal and 10% state and paid for with fuel taxes from each jurisdiction. So how do you convert that from public to private - by bids? Would the proceeds from that sale then pay for tax cuts for his wealthy friends? I'm having trouble visualizing how this works. When the work is done I am still paying the same fuel tax as before but now I am also paying the toll charge to use the road. The consumers look screwed to me while the fat cats make out like a bandit.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
19. Jobs...
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jan 2017

They don't have to build new roads or even widen existing roads. They simply resurface the road and the contract is set up such that the entity paying for the improvement owns the utility (road in this case).

This is all about repatriating the funds that the wealthy have offshore that they want to bring into the country tax free.

The toll fees won't kick in until after 2020, so Trump will get the credit for getting the economy going, creating jobs and get reelected. Then everyone will start paying for not just toll roads, but privately owned sewer, water, electric. Of course there'll be less regulation (as promised), which is another way of saying that the utility prices will have less (or nonexistent) control over them.

It's a very dangerous plan. When America was Great(er), such things (infrastructure improvement) were paid for by a top marginal tax rate of 91%.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
17. Lack of this sort of graft is clearly one of the reasons Rs blocked infrastructure projects
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 03:37 AM
Jan 2017

when Ds tried to implement them. That and Rs cant bear for the public to benefit if Ds get credit.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
18. The Art of the Steal
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 07:57 AM
Jan 2017

Private roads and bridges get built in places that have lots of people who can pay the tolls - cities. Not much is going to be done for the rural people who voted for Cheeto face to create some jobs for them. Unless they want to come to the cities to build our roads and then leave.

Private developers love immigrant labor.

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