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Fri Feb 24, 2017, 01:24 AM

 

Michael Moore says it will be Worse than we think:

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Reply Michael Moore says it will be Worse than we think: (Original post)
tomhagen Feb 2017 OP
bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #1
MADem Feb 2017 #2
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #3
StubbornThings Feb 2017 #6
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #8
StubbornThings Feb 2017 #10
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #11
Post removed Feb 2017 #12
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #13
JudyM Feb 2017 #14
MADem Feb 2017 #18
JudyM Feb 2017 #21
yallerdawg Feb 2017 #4
coco22 Feb 2017 #5
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #7
Merlot Feb 2017 #16
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #22
putitinD Feb 2017 #26
obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2017 #9
BlueWI Feb 2017 #15
Merlot Feb 2017 #17
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2017 #20
BlueWI Feb 2017 #24
90-percent Feb 2017 #23
putitinD Feb 2017 #27
sarcasmo Feb 2017 #19
Stuart G Feb 2017 #25

Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 01:54 AM

1. Moore needs to start digging into the Russian connections from the Trump administration.

 

Yes, I'm talking about a "Fahrenheit 9/11-type" documentary that exposes these bastards for who they really are.

I do agree with him about a changing of the guard in the DNC leadership-- Ellison would be the perfect fit to lead us into the 2018 & 2020 elections. A concerted grassroots effort (50 state solution) that catapulted us in 2008 should be the starting point for all involved.

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:47 AM

2. He's thrilled--he'll make one of his movies and people will buy it

like it makes a difference. Trump makes him rich. A Clinton presidency would have forced him to work much harder to find something to complain about on film.

I'm not impressed with him at all anymore. After he tried to paint himself as a Woman's March leader, lecturing the crowd about what they have to do, and was tugged away from the mic by Ashley Judd, I've quite soured on his antics.

I don't regard him as a leader in the 'resistance' effort and I don't think he'll motivate a large following (he'll always have die-hard fans). This thing is organic and bottoms-up--no one's waiting for pronouncements from Gods On High; they're working this locally and regionally, and that's great.

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Response to MADem (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 07:33 AM

3. yeah, good points. I was never a huge fan but he turned me off a bit during the election

 

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 08:52 AM

6. Why? What did he do? nt

 

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Response to StubbornThings (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:25 AM

8. too much Hillary bashing and passive-aggressive Trump support

 

not to mention the BS Moore pus out just in this video.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:08 AM

10. When did he bash Hillary?

 

I found examples of him saying that Trump could win and Hillary needed to do better campaigning, but I can't find any where he bashed her.

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Response to StubbornThings (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 12:25 PM

11. I can't remember specifics, but he was a strong Bernie supporter, and as such, leveled a lot of

 

criticism at her.

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Fri Feb 24, 2017, 06:39 PM

13. yes, I was a Bernie supporter too, and not to rehash it, but things got testy between the two sides

 

I could see the point at which criticism of Hillary got counter-productive.

In any case, my bigger beef here is his take on Trump, and calling him honest is too much!

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Response to MADem (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:30 PM

14. He's continuing to work quite hard to motivate people to protest and call congress, and we can see

this is actually helping, based on comments even from rethugs in Congress.

I don't have a problem with a feminist of either gender speaking up at a women's march, and proactively mobilizing critical action.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 12:01 AM

18. He's turning as many people off as he's "encouraging."

I don't take my cues from him.

First he looks at the purse.

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Response to MADem (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:37 AM

21. Is your first statement based on evidence? Or anecdotal?

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 08:22 AM

4. Ya gotta feel for old warriors like this.

Been tellin' us the 'awful truth' for decades and America gives us Bush, and now...this.

Added 'The Reistance Calendar' for reference - three events in Alabama now! - with links!

Never quit fighting.

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 08:35 AM

5. Mr.Comfortable aka Don Lemon..

is talking like Joe Scarborough about branches of government and things taking care of themselves, and to that I say BULLHOCKEY!

This kind of talk has helped to normalize these maniacs.

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:25 AM

7. Moore says Trump is "honest"-- WTF????

 

Never mind the constant barrage of lies from Trump.

The TRump people are are only in honest in trying to do extremist rightwing things.

They are NOT going to do any of the good things they promised.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:05 PM

16. He said trumpft was honest in saying what he felt

things like saying he could shoot someone and get away with it. I don't think Moore thinks for a minute that trumpft is an honest person.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 09:56 AM

22. perhaps, but he didn't qualify it and I didn't like the way it came across at all

 

He was saying that Trump was honest about "what he's going to do". But I don't think Trump is honest about replacing ACA with something better or saving SS and Medicare, at all.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:01 PM

26. +1

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 09:49 AM

9. The worse it gets

the better it is for MM.

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:04 PM

15. The Moore hate is classic DLC.

Moore makes brave, timely, and relevant films. Ever see them? He made his money with left leaning documentaries with a punch. Remember Bowling with Columbine? Sicko? Farenheit 9-11 when trembling liberals were voting for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act? When not one Dem senator was brave enough to call out the vote suppression in Florida as the 2000 election was being certified, Moore put that mess on the big screen. Who else did that?

Hillary Clinton cashed in with Goldman Sachs and people yawn. Moore makes an honest dollar with left films and gets bashed. Welcome to DU!

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:11 PM

17. Agreed. Moore is a truth teller.

Cynical people always say he's in it for the money. And even if he were "in it for the money" it still woudn't change the content of his docs.

And yes, he said drumpft would win. That didn't mean he wanted him to win. I always thought Hillary would loose no matter who she ran against. Doesn't mean I wanted her to loose. And we know that without all the skulduggery she would have won. But any dem who doesn't recognize that skulduggery is part of the repub play book is going to loose.

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 01:17 AM

20. Spot on!

Omg!!!! Michael Moore earns a ton of money making very successful films!!!!

This is when the DLCers turn in to communists - just for this topic.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 04:08 PM

24. Exactly.

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 11:07 AM

23. Thank you

I've loved Michael since Roger and me. His nineties tv shows, one on nbc and one on fox, were his mix of humor and charming gentle comedy like his Canadian Bacon.

He is on the side of the American way and liberty and justice for all. And his pre-election prediction shows he can be spot on in his observations. He mingles with the little people a lot more than most public figures.

Like my lifelong hero Frank Zappa, Michael is only concerned about wealth in so much as it allows him to create his next works.

-90% Jimmy

ps - didn't he do a nice pre-election anti-propaganda about hillary and how shes not so bad after all?

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Response to 90-percent (Reply #23)

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:09 PM

27. That movie came out right about the time I was 18, It was a major factor in me looking to

the Democratic party. I was raised in a family of staunch Republicans, whom I've had much success in converting most of them to Democrats. MM makes obscure things going on around us mainstream.

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2017, 01:00 AM

19. New blood is right.

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Response to tomhagen (Original post)

Sun Feb 26, 2017, 06:54 PM

25. A number of other observers also said...."It will be worse than we think"

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Van Jones said the same thing in December on the Daily Show:...(an article about that from Daily Beast)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/06/van-jones-on-daily-show-trump-is-much-worse-than-we-realize.html

and the Daily Kos said the same in a long article on November 14...here is that link:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/14/1599005/-It-s-worse-than-we-think

very very scary...

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