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Trump voters now Disgusted with first 100 days (Original Post) tomhagen Apr 2017 OP
Wasn't there some poll over the weekend that said 96% of them would still vote for him? femmocrat Apr 2017 #1
Yes, and that poll was far more valuable than anecdotes. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #19
Here's the full video bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #2
Sounds like the two women on the right and the guy with the bow tie need to pull cstanleytech Apr 2017 #13
Oxygen deprivation not fooled Apr 2017 #15
Their biggest achievement... Blanks Apr 2017 #3
Plus it was a stolen seat, kept open for a year by cheating McConnell. nt tblue37 Apr 2017 #5
McConnell is a huge problem. eom Blanks Apr 2017 #6
The Republicans also ... aggiesal Apr 2017 #11
There's not much Obama could have done... Blanks Apr 2017 #12
Well, yes, there was more Obama could have done... Raster Apr 2017 #14
Obama could have, by sheer strength of will... Blanks Apr 2017 #20
I am not downing the Big O... but I ask you... Raster Apr 2017 #21
I think you underestimate how much the repugs HATE Obama trc Apr 2017 #22
Obama is a brilliant orator, and perhaps one of the best examples... Raster Apr 2017 #23
I'm sure we are going to agree to disagree... Blanks Apr 2017 #24
It takes a big person to admit you made a mistake. Kudos to him. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #4
God help us if zentrum Apr 2017 #7
I want to sell his voters on whatever it is they'll buy from me. ffr Apr 2017 #8
Too fucking bad RhodeIslandOne Apr 2017 #9
Something, something Buttercup, something, something. czarjak Apr 2017 #10
The vast majority of Trump supporters.... SergeStorms Apr 2017 #16
Oh now they are? Wassamatter.. can't the M$M cover Cha Apr 2017 #17
didn't an ABC poll just say they would all vote for him again mdbl Apr 2017 #18

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. Wasn't there some poll over the weekend that said 96% of them would still vote for him?
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 01:17 PM
Apr 2017

They are too stupid to feel sorry for.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
19. Yes, and that poll was far more valuable than anecdotes.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 08:55 AM
Apr 2017

I'm amazed by the number of rec's and replies that anecdotes receive -- e.g., "My neighbor voted for Trump, but he told me today that he made a horrible mistake and he was crying!"

Great story, but it means very little when there's millions of voters.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
13. Sounds like the two women on the right and the guy with the bow tie need to pull
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 04:10 PM
Apr 2017

their heads out of their ass before brain damage sets in assuming it isnt to late.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
3. Their biggest achievement...
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 01:33 PM
Apr 2017

Is that he supported a Supreme Court justice. They were fawning over him this morning as being the first to appoint a Supreme Court justice in his first hundred days.

Which is stupid. How many presidents have had a Supreme Court justice to fill in the first 100 days.

That and passing the law allowing ISPs to sell our data are the only true accomplishments. They want to count signing executive orders, but that's literally just signing a piece of paper.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
11. The Republicans also ...
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 03:45 PM
Apr 2017

had to change to rules to actually get Gorsuch seated,
otherwise they would not have been able to seat anyone within 100 days.

Not to mention that the seat was stolen.
I'm still pi$$ed at Obama for not coming out and saying that the
American people had already decided which president to select
a supreme court judge (in 2012 election), after McConnell said
that they will wait for the American people to decide who should
select the nominee.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
12. There's not much Obama could have done...
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 03:55 PM
Apr 2017

The whole situation is tragic, but I don't blame Obama.

There's a special place in hell for McConnell, seated somewhere near O'Reilly I suspect.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
14. Well, yes, there was more Obama could have done...
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 05:46 PM
Apr 2017

...however NO DRAMA OBAMA thought, just like the rest of us, that Clinton would be the winner, and he opted to defer any action.

I like President Obama, I voted for him twice. Sorry, but he should have fought like hell to get his guy confirmed.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
20. Obama could have, by sheer strength of will...
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 09:11 AM
Apr 2017

overcome the republican's senate majority.

No, perhaps there's more Harry Reid could have done, or Chuck Schumer, maybe as the leader of the democrats, Obama could have applied more pressure on the democratic leaders in the senate, but he nominated a justice, and it's the senate's job to confirm.

We all thought the Republicans were imploding because of Trump, it would have empowered the republicans if he'd done some kind of back channel maneuvering. He did what he could.

It's the same with the Russian hacking, he couldn't intervene without risking damaging the democrats in the election. It is more painful in the short term this way, but the Trump disaster will run its course, and as we all talked about before the election. It was likely that the republicans were going to control the house no matter what.

All of this is likely to change control of the house and senate in 2018, if the democratic leaders can get the message together.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
21. I am not downing the Big O... but I ask you...
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 09:16 AM
Apr 2017

...President Obama put several things on the back burner because he thought Clinton would win the election. What do you think would have happened had P.O. NOT thought that Hillary was going to win the election? Would his actions and positions have been the same his last year in office? No, I don't think so.

Sorry, I disagree. And I NEVER said nor implied that "...by sheer strength of will..." He could have exited fighting.

trc

(823 posts)
22. I think you underestimate how much the repugs HATE Obama
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 09:56 AM
Apr 2017

They were not going to do anything to move the nomination forward, period. Their entire plan for 8 years was to thwart Obama's agenda, and after the first 2 years they did just that. Obama had no way constitutionally to get Garland forward, there could be not recess appointment because, under the repugs, congress never went into recess. This was a theft by the repugs of a SC seat, pure and simple. Now we have to control our message and hammer on the repugs inability to govern and their complete disregard for the humans that (already) make America great .

Raster

(20,998 posts)
23. Obama is a brilliant orator, and perhaps one of the best examples...
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 10:11 AM
Apr 2017

...of any politician in our time who is aware of the power of the bully pulpit and the power of words. I agree, President Obama had no constitutional recourse. One thing President Obama did have was President Obama. And I am not saying President Obama would have changed Comrade McConnell's actions and gotten Garland confirmed, however, IMHO, President Obama could have made McConnell pay for every racist, obstructionist step with the power of his words and overall popularity.

McConnell refusing to even give Garland a hearing was the Capitol Hill version of calling President Obama "boy." President Barrack Obama should have called McConnell out PUBLICLY.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
24. I'm sure we are going to agree to disagree...
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 10:27 AM
Apr 2017

but what I think we aren't seeing discussed enough is the fact that we all expected for the republicans to maintain control over the house.

It may not have been in our long term best interest for Hillary to have won because the republican controlled house would have started impeachment hearings immediately. A couple of years of that kind of thing would have been really bad for democrats.

One of my biggest complaints about Sanders was that all of his promises were empty promises because control of congress (the house for sure, senate maybe) was still going to be in republican hands.

What is going on here is as George Will said (and Mark Cuban said it too) is political chemotherapy. We are putting poison in the system in the hopes that it kills the bad stuff.

It's gonna hurt, but it's what its gonna take in order for our system to survive. The supreme court nominee was a pretty harsh dose of that chemo, but in the long run, it will clean out the system. It's good that it was Scalia's seat, because even if Gorsuch is worse that Scalia, he can't be much worse than Scalia. If he'd been replacing Ginsberg, that would be really, really bad.

On CNN, I see the republicans talking the same unproven nonsense: tax cuts will stimulate the economy. We are going to have a recession before the mid-term election, and it'll all be in the republican's court. Trump claimed to be a great 'job creator', but much like Hoover was blamed for the Great Depression, EVERYONE is going to blame Trump for the recession.

They are playing the short game and it's going to cost them, if the democrats can get a little more control over their message.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
7. God help us if
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 03:04 PM
Apr 2017

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..he keeps his promises.

The wall. Muslims banned from the country. (And with it a destroyed tourist industry).Tax reform that helps billionaires. The end of Bank regulations. The end of Arts funding. Corporate schools. Corporate prisons. The end of the EPA. A health plan that penalizes the sick and elderly and that leaves the parents of the young and still healthy at risk. No raise in minimum wage. The end of women's choice. A more and more Citizen's United SC. The KKK in the background at the WH.

His incompetency protects them from their own stupidity.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
8. I want to sell his voters on whatever it is they'll buy from me.
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 03:07 PM
Apr 2017

They are all suckers who will give their last dollar to hurt other Americans. The common trait amongst many of them is that they are vindictive assholes.

63 million suckers hell bent in their beliefs and totally programmable. Imagine the $ billions that could be bilked from them?

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
16. The vast majority of Trump supporters....
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:07 AM
Apr 2017

are trapped in a cult of personality. They're WILLFULLY trapped, mind you, but trapped just the same. They don't even see what Trump's doing, saying, thinking. All they see is the propagandist image of Trump from his campaign, his MAGA hat (that they all have and cherish), and his 'tough talk' bullshit about "America First", AND THE WALL! Most importantly, THE WALL! Well, now that THE WALL is in complete jeopardy, the cult must find someone else to blame this on. DEMOCRATS! Although the Democrats are in the minority, and Trump's "The Art of the Deal" tactics can't penetrate the Democrat's force field, IT'S STILL THEIR FAULT! DAMN THEM!

Cults don't react to outside stimulus in a rational manner. It all collapses inward. Now, if we can only find a way to convince Trump to mandate a "Drink the Trump Kool-Aid Day", we'll be rid of them forever. Rid of Trump forever as well, but he'll never join his enthusiasts in drinking the Kool-Aid.

Cha

(297,205 posts)
17. Oh now they are? Wassamatter.. can't the M$M cover
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:17 AM
Apr 2017

for trump.. can't trump tweet out enough FAKE news fast enough?

Glad getting through their skulls.

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