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Pic Of The Moment: An American Dog Whistle In London (Original Post) EarlG Jul 2012 OP
You mean there's a racist left that Mitt doesn't already have on his side? Scuba Jul 2012 #1
I missed the "Atlanticist" bit Enrique Jul 2012 #2
Well, that would be... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #5
Yeah, that's a new one Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #43
Dog whistle? How about racist to the core? chelsea0011 Jul 2012 #3
Seriously, they've dropped the whistle and flat out calling to the dogs, now. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #11
Sounds more like hog calling to me. Preview of the GOP convention in Florida: freshwest Jul 2012 #49
I thought Romney had a little bit of class. avaistheone1 Jul 2012 #4
We Anglo-Saxons 'ave a lot of bloody class! flamingdem Jul 2012 #6
Whatever would have led you to believe that? nichomachus Jul 2012 #7
Is Mr. Romney aware rocktivity Jul 2012 #8
Those people have no core. nolabear Jul 2012 #9
I don't have a drop of Anglo Saxon blood aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #10
Americans everywhere are crying out for more Anglo-Saxon relations with Great Britain: struggle4progress Jul 2012 #12
Anglo-saxons in Great Britain DON'T LIKE Mitt Romney Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #20
Now, now.. whathehell Jul 2012 #24
We're an hour past "dog whistle" and into full on "Alphorn". HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #13
Best response I read was on another site, tsuki Jul 2012 #39
I have read good arguments stating that we fought on the wrong side in WWI. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #14
So... we should have fought alongside the Germans against the English? Really? Chorophyll Jul 2012 #18
One of my history teachers described WWI as "Queen Victoria's grandchildren fighting each other" whathehell Jul 2012 #21
This is my error. I instinctively read World War TWO where you had said World War ONE. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #22
Oh, no problem...We're all guilty of those kind of oversights whathehell Jul 2012 #25
I was gonna say that the internet has made me too quick to comment, Chorophyll Jul 2012 #40
For the blushing smiley Control-Z Jul 2012 #33
Oh thanks. Let's just test it out... Chorophyll Jul 2012 #41
My pleasure! n/t Control-Z Jul 2012 #42
I had a history professor who pretty much said the same thing dflprincess Jul 2012 #50
My own opinion is that we should never have entered WWI on either side. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #29
Read Germanys Aims In World War 1 fedsron2us Jul 2012 #60
Obvious right wing racist is obvious. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #15
My ancestors fart in the general direction of Angles and Saxons ... pantywaists they were. TahitiNut Jul 2012 #16
LOL!..n/t whathehell Jul 2012 #19
But you lost the American Civil War. ieoeja Jul 2012 #26
Sadly, the Norse gene pool was terribly polluted in the antebellum South. TahitiNut Jul 2012 #35
Always the best way to start a day. lonestarnot Jul 2012 #54
Wow. I had heard the Anglo-Saxon remark but not the others. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #17
And to think here we thought that Caeser67 Jul 2012 #23
Our Non-Anglo-Saxon Presidents Smilo Jul 2012 #27
"Anglo-Saxon" mean "Anglo" (England) and "Saxon" from Scandinavian Places-- Moonwalk Jul 2012 #36
No Mittens Flatpicker Jul 2012 #28
...oops, time for Willard to issue an apology "to those who may have been offended". MarinCoUSA Jul 2012 #30
Nope, they're coming out swinging, attacking the newspaper. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #46
Willard Robme has lost his mind with Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #31
Barack Obama's family tree is very interesting. DhhD Jul 2012 #32
So, Romney = British (anglo-saxon) and the French (he loved his time in France, right?) Moonwalk Jul 2012 #34
Okay, I'll bite. How many votes can Romney expect from the U.K.? Is his dressage horse... Moonwalk Jul 2012 #37
Well, considering the President is part Irish, I guess that's understandable... GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #38
Take Back Mercia! Romney 1012! tanyev Jul 2012 #44
Hahaha! freshwest Jul 2012 #52
Romney is now disputing this by calling it a "FOREIGN paper!" progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #45
If it's the Telegraph (aka the Torygraph) that's the paper most likely to favor Mittsy. MADem Jul 2012 #56
What? Mitt is too classy to say "WHAAAAAT PAAAAAR?" muntrv Jul 2012 #47
I had lunch with my youngest daughter today... Kalidurga Jul 2012 #48
Shared history? dflprincess Jul 2012 #51
He is the only one who attends his own summit. Initech Jul 2012 #53
Is this "advisor" a total nitwit? Land of Hope and Glory? Does the moron understand that that song MADem Jul 2012 #55
No such thing as pure Anglo-Saxon people in the UK. eom Norrin Radd Jul 2012 #57
The way Mitt walks kitt6 Jul 2012 #58
Racist statements, Insult NAACP, Purge Minority Voters - a pattern is developing AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2012 #59

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
8. Is Mr. Romney aware
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:11 PM
Jul 2012

that the United States REBELLED against being owned by England about 250 years ago???


rocktivity

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
9. Those people have no core.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
Jul 2012

The mind just boggles. If you'll SAY this kind of thing, what on earth will you DO?

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
20. Anglo-saxons in Great Britain DON'T LIKE Mitt Romney
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jul 2012

Romney: It ranged from "who" "not another Bush" and "save us"

(just came back from there)

and the non Anglo Saxons over there don't like Mitt Romney

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
24. Now, now..
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jul 2012

You don't want to rile up the UK forum, do you?


I AM joking, btw...I've known quite a few Brits, dated one, visited there

and am actually a fan of the UK in many ways, and what surprises

me (along with asshatted racism) is that the jerk

doesn't realize how many BROWN and Black people are "British".

Could he be as ignorant as Dumbya who, on a visit to Brazil, supposedly

whispered in their president's ear "Wow..You have Black people here, too, huh"?

Jackass

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
13. We're an hour past "dog whistle" and into full on "Alphorn".
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jul 2012

It's just that these people are being far more brazen with their agenda lately. I don't know whether to encourage them or fear that their assholiness is being bought by the mAsses.

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
39. Best response I read was on another site,
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jul 2012

I forget which site-

Good-bye racist dog whistle, hello honkey foghorn...buuurrrppp, buuurrrppp, buuurrppp...

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
14. I have read good arguments stating that we fought on the wrong side in WWI.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jul 2012

Without our intervention, the British Empire would not have doddered much further into the twentieth century if the Great War had been a stalemate.

In WWII, Churchill was just as worried about retaining Empire as defeating Germany...and he got us to do most of the dirty work for him.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
21. One of my history teachers described WWI as "Queen Victoria's grandchildren fighting each other"
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:49 PM
Jul 2012

World War I was not about nazis and such, as in WWII.

To my understanding, it was basically about monarchy and colonies.

The Austrian-Hungarian empire was a big player then, and what kicked it off,

was a Serbian dude getting pissed off at being (along with the rest of the Balkans)

under their thumb......My maternal grandparents came from "next door" in Croatia

about 15 years before WWI and always referred to themselves as "Austrians",

which, in terms of citizenship, of course, they were.

As their grandchild, I was always confused by the fact that their names

sounded Russian-like, they spoke Italian, but they called themselves "Austrian".

I was the first in the family to find out we were actually Croatian.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
22. This is my error. I instinctively read World War TWO where you had said World War ONE.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jul 2012

So yes, and never mind. Do we still have the blushing smiley?

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
25. Oh, no problem...We're all guilty of those kind of oversights
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:09 PM
Jul 2012

and misreads...I've made a few duzys, especially when I'm tired.

I just checked the smilies, and, no, it seems we don't have that

blushing smiley anymore, and that just goes to show ya

-- There's just no humility anymore!

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
40. I was gonna say that the internet has made me too quick to comment,
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jul 2012

but I read Ikonoklast's original post like five times and still misread it somehow.

You will both have to accept my verbal expression of humility instead: d'oh!

ETA: And I'm still not reading properly. I'd best pack it in for today. Au revoir, DU...

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
50. I had a history professor who pretty much said the same thing
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jul 2012

He called it "the family feud to end all family feuds"... Few in the class caught his play on the WWI (or "Great War" as it was called before we knew we'd need to number them) slogan "war to end all wars".

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
29. My own opinion is that we should never have entered WWI on either side.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:32 PM
Jul 2012

But as I said, I have read papers written that gave just as good a reason to fight with Germany against Great Britain, as for them.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
16. My ancestors fart in the general direction of Angles and Saxons ... pantywaists they were.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jul 2012

My ancestors were Norsemen, often called "Vikings" but less commonly known as the foundation of Norman France (aka Normandy). Even the Frenchified descendants of my Norse ancestors kicked Anglo-Saxon butt ... repeatedly.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
26. But you lost the American Civil War.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jul 2012

The north was dominated by Anglo-Saxons. The south was dominated by Normans. There were even two proposed plans for replacing African slaves with Anglo-Saxons : raid the north if the south achieves independance, or conquer the north, tear down the cities and reimpose feudalism with Norman rule over Anglo-Saxon serfs and peasants.


TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
35. Sadly, the Norse gene pool was terribly polluted in the antebellum South.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:29 PM
Jul 2012
The purer and reconstituted strains survived only where rhubarb grows.


Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
17. Wow. I had heard the Anglo-Saxon remark but not the others.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jul 2012

Pure, undiluted racism, chased with desperation and zero policy on anything.

Caeser67

(156 posts)
23. And to think here we thought that
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jul 2012

Mitt Romney had come to terms that Blah's were people too. No we didn't, was wondering how long it would take before he went there, now we know. He'll be overseas so he will have time to come up with a weak, nonstandard, standard reply to this.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
27. Our Non-Anglo-Saxon Presidents
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jul 2012

"Obama is not our first non-Anglo-Saxon president. And because his mother, Ann Dunham, was of English descent, he’s actually more Anglo-Saxon than many of his predecessors.

Here’s a list of presidents who were less Anglo-Saxon than Obama.

Martin Van Buren, 1837-1841: Van Buren was the first president who had no ancestors from the British Isles. In fact, English was not even his first language. Van Buren was born in Kinderhook, N.Y., a Dutch settlement in the Hudson Valley. His great-great-great grandfather, Cornelis van Buren, had emigrated to the New World in 1631, but the Van Burens never completely assimilated with their Anglo-Saxon neighbors.

Theodore Roosevelt, 1901-1909: Like Van Buren, Roosevelt was also a New Yorker of Dutch descent. The founder of the Roosevelt family, Claes Maartenszen von Rosenvelt, bought a farm in Manhattan in the mid-17th Century. However, Roosevelt’s mother was from an old Georgia family, making him at least half Anglo-Saxon. He belonged to the Dutch Reformed Church.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1933-1945: A fifth cousin of Theodore Roosevelt, FDR was also descended from Claes Rosenvelt. His mother, Sara Delano, was descended from Dutch Pilgrims who arrived in America shortly after the Mayflower. In the White House, Roosevelt once railed, “This is an English and Dutch country! Everyone else is here on sufferance,” making him a bit more inclusive than Romney’s adviser.

Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1953-1961: Eisenhower was our only president of predominantly German descent. His ancestors were Pennsylvania Dutch who had migrated to the United States in the 18th Century. Despite his lack of Anglo-Saxon heritage, he was able to work with English generals to plan the D-Day operation, one of the great moments in our special relationship with Britain.

John F. Kennedy, 1961-1963: Kennedy’s Irish ancestors had been in conflict with the Anglo-Saxons for hundreds of years. His maternal ancestor, Thomas Fitzgerald, emigrated to America during the Irish Potato Famine, one of the low points of that relationship. As president, though, Kennedy visited Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham Palace.

And then there is.............. Ronald Reagan, 1981-1989: Reagan was also of Irish descent. His great-grandfather, Michael O’Regan, was born in County Tipperary before emigrating to London, then Illinois. The Republican president’s friendship with Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was the strongest between an American and a British leader.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Our-Non-Anglo-Saxon-Presidents--163699306.html#ixzz21eui67YH

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
36. "Anglo-Saxon" mean "Anglo" (England) and "Saxon" from Scandinavian Places--
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:37 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

The word was created thanks to all the invasions England and it's "Anglo" population (the Angles themselves having been invaders who stomped all over the native Britons) suffered from the Scandinavians (Saxons) in the centuries prior to when they got invaded by Normans. So. technically, all the Dutch Presidents were equal to "Anglo-Saxon" as they're descended from the same invaders that created the "saxon" in Anglo-Saxon--and all the Irish Presidents were, more or less, equally Anglo-Saxon as they, too, were invaded by Saxons and, later by Anglo-Saxon-Norman British.

Of course, following this logic, tracing back and back to who invaded whom from where to where we eventually end up back in the only continent of origin that counts for human beings: Africa

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
28. No Mittens
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jul 2012

Not Atlanticist.

You're supposed to be more Atlantean. You should probably go looking for them. Maybe they have a new place for you to hide your money from the IRS.

Anybody got video of Mitt saying these things?
I'm sure it would play well with Latino's and African Americans if it was aired in the states.

MarinCoUSA

(891 posts)
30. ...oops, time for Willard to issue an apology "to those who may have been offended".
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jul 2012

--- if one can hear the dog whistle, it ain't no dog whistle anymore.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
46. Nope, they're coming out swinging, attacking the newspaper.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:13 PM
Jul 2012

Just saw it on yahoo's front page. They're attacking the Daily Telegraph as a "foreign newspaper" in a derogatory fashion.

They're calling it an anonymous comment.. but I bet the Telegraph will be happy to name names if Mitt continues his lame attack on them. His peeps need to know the difference between off the record and anonymous, or they will soon.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
31. Willard Robme has lost his mind with
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jul 2012

these dog whistles coming from his campaign. There's these statements that make it as if Obama is some foreigner, Robme's palling around with the Birther King Trump, and him going in front of NAACP intentionally getting booed.
I can't believe I actually thought once that he was the only non-racist Republican in the primary. But he's just as mean-spirited as Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, and Herman Cain if not more so.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
34. So, Romney = British (anglo-saxon) and the French (he loved his time in France, right?)
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jul 2012

Am I wrong or don't most right-wingers (1) Make a big to-do about Americans dumping British tea into that "Atlantic" there and (2) Really hate the French?

Someone help me out here. How is all this supposed to make Romney more attractive to his base?

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
37. Okay, I'll bite. How many votes can Romney expect from the U.K.? Is his dressage horse...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:43 PM
Jul 2012

...in the Olympics likely to get him London voters? Oh...wait...silly me! Britain's not part of the U.S.

Hm. Do you think his campaign advisor forgot that?

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
38. Well, considering the President is part Irish, I guess that's understandable...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:06 PM
Jul 2012

Yes, that was .

(He also has English ancestry, BTW.)

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
45. Romney is now disputing this by calling it a "FOREIGN paper!"
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jul 2012

It's hilarious to watch them freak out. What happened to their special relationship? NOW they call it a "foreign" paper in a derogatory way. Here's the link. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-spokesman-blasts-british-paper-false-quote-anglo-184521146.html

<<"Spokesman Ryan Williams angrily denounced the comment on Wednesday as "an anonymous and false quote from a foreign newspaper." >>

haha, how quickly they turn on the UK when caught being racist jerks again. Thing is with a quote like that, and there was more than what that tool at Yahoo put up, is that it would be impossible for someone to make that up. Where would a journalist even come up with an entire line of thinking like that to attribute to Romney's advisor???

Of course the ass kissers at yahoo are like.. 'oh, that paragraph is not that bad,' but it was not the only thing that was said there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
56. If it's the Telegraph (aka the Torygraph) that's the paper most likely to favor Mittsy.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:41 AM
Jul 2012

He can't get a single thing right it would seem.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
48. I had lunch with my youngest daughter today...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:05 PM
Jul 2012

One of the first things she brought up was she heard that Mittens adviser said something about Obama not being Anglo-Saxon enough to understand the Brits. Not in those words exactly, but this is a direct quote: "Mitt Romney is a racist a55h013." This is from a girl that rarely swears and doesn't like politics, well until a couple of weeks ago. She tells me it's like watching a soap opera.

Initech

(100,042 posts)
53. He is the only one who attends his own summit.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:27 PM
Jul 2012

He has to purchase all of his twitter followers - using actual US currency.

People liken him to Sasquatch - the only difference is that people don't go out of their way for a photo opportunity with him.

He'll occasionally go wild at happy hour and order several glasses of sparkling apple cider - and he'll still ask the bartender to call a cab.

He's never eaten a buffalo wing.

You can never tell if he's a pacifist or not.

He is Mitt Romney - the least interesting man in the world!!!

"I tried beer as a teenager once - I didn't like it."

Stay boring my friends.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
55. Is this "advisor" a total nitwit? Land of Hope and Glory? Does the moron understand that that song
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:33 AM
Jul 2012

(which we use in its "Pomp and Circumstance" iteration at high school graduations) is the "unofficial" National Anthem, most well known for being sung, drunkenly, on the last night of the proms?

Who the fuck WOULD want to sing LOHAG, unless they were BRITISH? The song is like any other anthem--"We're better than anyone else."

The stupid, it burns.

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