The Zapruder Film - NEW FINDINGS

[bucolic_frolic]

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Researchers never sleep, as the years roll by they just keep digging. The film is from 2015, though I rarely visit the issue so its conclusions are novel to me. It traces custody of the Zapruder film from the time Zapruder had it developed in Dallas to a couple of days later, based on surviving evidence of the time period and interviews over ensuing decades. This video was made by a member of the Assassinations Review Board and concludes the film known to the public for 50 years is different film from the original.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. What are the new findings? Sell the video otherwise most people won't invest the time since

... since it is likely to be about as much nonsense as the voluminous time-wasting nonsense that surrounds the Kennedy assassination.

Why should we spend time on this particular video?

[bucolic_frolic]

2. A valid question

Because it traces custody of the Zapruder film from the time Zapruder had it developed in Dallas and made 3 copies which he sold to Life Magazine, which subsequently upped the ante by $100,000 for all rights and then never publishedit. The government seized control of it either en route to LIFE or from LIFE, had prints made from it, reprocessed it the same day, and had other prints made from it. This film, made by a member of the Assassinations Review Board, interviews one of the members of the print teams at that time. The teams were sequestered and prevented from disclosing their activities to anyone, including colleagues, and especially to each other. What emerges is a pretty strong case, based on interviews and surviving prints, that the Zapruder film was altered on Day 2, and by Day 4 was a different film from the original.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. Thanks. . . nt

[Major Nikon]

4. So the conspiracy widens

Mind you, there's no proof of any of it, just that the alleged conspiracy is now bigger than anyone ever imagined, even among people with very active imaginations.

BTW, there's nothing new about it as the youtube is as stale as all the other fart-in-a-whirlwind "new" information that constantly squeaks out of the deepest, darkest, anals of the interwebs.

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Well yes but no

There is not proof other than the tangible records of the time, more than 5 decades of interviews of people in various government positions and the fact-checking between those oral records, and modern forensic digital evaluation of the remaining evidence. Researchers continue to process information, and find inconsistencies, which lead to more questions.

The only thing stale is old and tired minds that piss on anything their mental rigidity can't fathom for whatever their reason or agenda.

[longship]

6. "find inconsistencies"

More properly "make up more made up shit."

And my mentality is doing just fine. I just do not adhere to wacko conspiracy theories based solely on obscure anomaly hunting.

All the evidence indicates that Oswald acted alone. I get tired of the grand conspiracy rubbish.

Sorry!

This thread belongs in the conspiracy/speculation forum, not here.

[Major Nikon]

7. Sure, that's why the only people who take this seriously are...

obviously mentally flexible folks like Alex Fucking Jones, Jessie Fucking Ventura, and Jim Fucking Fetzer, the later of which promoted this whole idea well before along with many other nutty CT nonsense, much of which is decidedly anti-Semitic. Meanwhile the Zapruder film was viewed by millions of people at the time, including people who were there and inexplicably nobody seemed to notice the whole thing was doctored. Kinda funny how that works.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. No one asked you for your vitriol

[Major Nikon]

9. When you post info for public consumption you take your chances

If you're looking for an echo chamber, you might want to seek a different soapbox. Just sayin'

Meanwhile I believe it was you who made a thinly veiled personal attack, so your accusation of vitriol seems to be more than just a bit of Freudian projection.

[bucolic_frolic]

10. I am putting you on full ignore

I have posted a straightforward thread for discussion.

[Major Nikon]

11. Music to my ears

Your personal attacks are the lowest form of discussion anyway.

[gopiscrap]

12. interesting

[kellytore]

13. If a high level person in the Mafia, CIA, FBI, or foreign

government wanted Kennedy killed, they would have used something other than a $20 Italian gun from WW2. Oh but then the conspiracy nuts will say there was gunfire from the grassy knoll. Conspiracy folks are similar to religious nuts, when confronted they change the direction of the argument.

[John1956PA]

14. I believe that the copy which the public has seen is a reformatted version.

As I understand it, the original version was understandably shaky, since Mr. Zapruder was holding the movie camera without the benefit of any stabilizing device. The process of reformatting the frames and re-sequencing them produced the copy which the public is familiar with and which allows the tragic event to be more easily followed by the eye than it would be if the the original version were to be viewed. I think I have heard that one or more frames of the original footage do not appear in the reformatted version.

As an aside, I note that I never thought that any sinister efforts were exerted in producing the reformatted version.

[rwsanders]

15. Thanks for the post

I was too young to remember, but I'm still curious even though these posts bring out all the locked in concrete professional deniers.
Wish Octafish was still around. He had all the details and the patience to pick the denials apart.

[longship]

16. Zapruder used to be the gold standard to the conspiracists.

Remember? Back and to the left!

Now, apparently it is all yet another part of the grand conspiracy, which apparently swallows everything, including itself.

That's why nobody should take any of this shit seriously.

Not so much "New Findings" as "New Made Up Shit".

[bearssoapbox]

17. Thanks for posting.

Not that I think or believe one way or the other.

It's just that it's interesting to me and I haven't seen this before.

I've noticed that, no almost no matter what gets posted, sometimes, there's going to be some negativity.

It comes with posting anything I guess.

It's easy enough to click off if it doesn't seem interesting.

[L. Coyote]

18. If you want real conspiracy theories, see Alex Jones, far more entertaining.

This is produced by someone touting OJ's innocence, 9/11 conspiracies, etc. Take it down. This crap does not belong on DU. We take pride in our reasoning.

[stopbush]

19. JFK CTs.

[miamipilot]

20. It's Not Just the Zapruder Film Alone

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Below is one of the best documented treatises I have encountered regarding the Kennedy assassination and all of its 'inconsistencies' (see below). Retrospect seems to offer up many 'alignments' that are not always so apparent when living history in real time. The Warren Commission (subsequently) even concluded that there was likely to be more than one shooter.

Given the political climate at the time, the deep state agenda, it is easy to see why...based upon circumstantial evidence alone...there might have been foul play surrounding Kennedy's assassination. This stuff is not going away anytime soon (or at least until these inconsistencies have been addressed). The Genie is out of the bottle, and the naysayers (those who are intellectually lazy at least) best suspend their judgement, preform their research and nail down their counter-arguments regarding this rather complex fact pattern.

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