Fox doc attacks Bernies 'Medicare fo All' by citing Canada 20-week surgery wait; but its only 48 hrs

[DonViejo]

Fox doc attacks Bernie’s ‘Medicare fo All’ by citing Canada 20-week surgery wait — but it’s only 48 hours

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/fox-doc-attacks-bernies-medicare-fo-all-by-citing-canada-20-week-wait-time-but-its-24-weeks-in-the-us/

[emulatorloo]

1. Omg is Fox lying about universal healthcare again?

[Not Ruth]

2. You only have to wait 48 hours for surgery in Canada? That is amazing, we need single payer now!

[tymorial]

4. No that isn't exactly true. The type and nature of the surgery determines priority

Medical necessity and imminent need determines wait time. The article points out that 48 hours is typical for priority surgeries but again it depends.

It can be similar in the US now where a non priority procedure may be delayed for weeks to months or even be bumped the day of surgery. This is common. It depends on the diagnosis and required surgical intervention for treatment. There are also procedures which are not considered medically necessary but improve quality of life significantly due to reduction or elimination of pain. It is not unusual for example to be placed in a waiting list to have a cholecystectomy (gall bladder removal) due to stones even though they can cause pain and discomfort.

[INdemo]

3. We will get single payer health care eventually because the younger Generation

will demand it. However for now scenes like this is only the beginning because Health Insurers and pharmaceuticals will spend Millions to campaign against this system.
Like 2009 when single payer was originally proposed the Insurance companies spent millions and we ended up with the ACA which was the best we could get and Democrats in Congress said "Well it is a start and we will move closer to Medicare for all" So far that was proven to be just words.
I just don't believe that with the Insurance companies spending millions this time around will stop the demands of the millennials.

[tomhagen]

5. Just Imagine; a Nation making sure ALL its Citizens are healthy.

[DK504]

6. Medicare for all must happen here.

It won't be able to happen until we regulate the insurance companies from raising their premiums to prices no one can afford and regulating drug companies so we don't pay 10x's what every other country in the world pays.

It's not about taking all profit out of healthcare, it's about stopping the fleecing of Americans that need to see a doctor. Congress will never agree to regulate these monopolies because they are so entwined with them.

[CTyankee]

7. That lie is SO old and has been cited as a falsehood since I was in my 20s and I'm

77 now.

You see, this is why Trump won. So many people believe this shit, even when they are repeatedly told it is NOT. Oh, well, there's the Trump mentality for you

[Hoyt]

8. I think there probably is a longer wait time for non-emergency care in Canada and Britain, but

I'm not sure that is necessarily bad if more people have coverage and the cost is more affordable. Do we really need MRI's in doctors' offices, instant lab results, elective surgeries within a day or two, etc., in most cases.

I'm also not sure Medicare-for-All will be significantly lower cost without some major changes to the system.


http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/comparing-health-care-in-canada-to-the-us/

http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/comparing-health-care-in-canada-to-the-us/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7860896