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gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 09:31 PM Sep 2017

Is Melania Trump really fluent in five languages?

According to the White House Melania Trump is fluent in five languages, but I can't seem to find any video or audio of her speaking a language other than English and her native Slovenian. Saying hello in Italian or how are you in French doesn't count.




According to her Wikipedia page, Melania Trump attended the University of Ljubljana for one year but didn't graduate, though it is listed as her alma mater. If she only went to college for one year how did she become fluent in five languages? If I'm not mistaken, she has not lived in any country other than her native country and the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump
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Is Melania Trump really fluent in five languages? (Original Post) gyroscope Sep 2017 OP
Does lying count as a language? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1
She has learned from the master himself gyroscope Sep 2017 #2
Hilarious Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2017 #24
No wonder not fooled Sep 2017 #29
Too funny . . . and she thought nobody would notice, LOL. Er, you were saying what are morals? ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #38
The language of lying..... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #33
Trump himself certainly has a sizable "seat of deceit". guillaumeb Sep 2017 #39
He certainly does.... SergeStorms Sep 2017 #40
Almost big enough.... guillaumeb Sep 2017 #41
I don't believe it. Control-Z Sep 2017 #3
One of them Soxfan58 Sep 2017 #4
Keep in mind that in most of Europe they don't wait until high school PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #5
She didn't ever do the international runway shows, mostly "lad magazine" nudies and shitty bettyellen Sep 2017 #14
I've traveled to Paris for business. I got along fine without knowing French. rickford66 Sep 2017 #20
That's the thing, people in other countries do learn other languages from an early age Rhiannon12866 Sep 2017 #32
There's a video from when she was in Paris, at the children's school, fierywoman Sep 2017 #6
She apparently speaks multiple languages unc70 Sep 2017 #7
Got any links? gyroscope Sep 2017 #9
Not sure how good the links are unc70 Sep 2017 #19
She speaks passable English GeoWilliam750 Sep 2017 #27
Years ago I had a girlfriend who was from the then Yugoslavia. Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian.... George II Sep 2017 #16
Having grown up in Slovenia before the Berlin wall came down, it's likely she studied Russian fierywoman Sep 2017 #8
She can't speak those languages. madaboutharry Sep 2017 #10
Very doubtful she can speak French gyroscope Sep 2017 #11
Just tRump's kind of "lady"!! Scarsdale Sep 2017 #36
In the Netherlands Turbineguy Sep 2017 #12
Her tubby hubby BHDem53 Sep 2017 #13
NO ! BUT I got a semi from the frosted tips . stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #15
When she's with the donald, I understand she'll never "communicate" without a translator.... George II Sep 2017 #17
I can say... 3catwoman3 Sep 2017 #18
I'm sure she can tell you how much Mr.Bill Sep 2017 #21
Maybe she can say "Hi sailor" in 5 languages? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #22
Привет, моряк ! stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #23
Zdravo mornar left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #26
Remember Trump had her lie on her website Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2017 #25
tRump lies Scarsdale Sep 2017 #37
everything about her is phony Skittles Sep 2017 #28
Yeah, if she has practiced someone elses speech. Doreen Sep 2017 #30
I find it likely she also took Russian in school and possibly English Warpy Sep 2017 #31
Does gibberish count as a language? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2017 #34
She may speak 5 languages but it is clear from the time she has been seen chelsea0011 Sep 2017 #35

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
38. Too funny . . . and she thought nobody would notice, LOL. Er, you were saying what are morals?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 08:55 AM
Sep 2017

That was so uncool. Shame on you Melania, I'm embarrassed for you.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
33. The language of lying.....
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 02:10 AM
Sep 2017

is inherent in every Republican. They have an extra pair of chromosomes, making 48 in total, and that extra pair of chromosomes is the "seat of deceit". Only Republicans are born with it. Others may attempt to pretend they have the pair of chromosomes, but under close scrutiny the are found lacking.

That extra pair of chromosomes means the Republican's other chromosomes lose some of their potency. In Trump's case his hair and midriff paid the price for his lying. In Mitch McConnell, he lost his chin and other parts of his face, making him closely resemble a Green Sea Turtle. In John McCain, it was his brain that made the sacrifice of his lying. And so on, and so forth. They all paid a price with decreasing power of their other chromosomes to claim the dubious power of lying.

So yes, Malaria sacrificed her integrity, her dignity, her looks, and her pride to possess the power of lying. Has anyone - beside myself - wondered what Malaria looks like without her daily three hour regimen of make-up application? Would we even recognize her? I'm guessing......NO!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
5. Keep in mind that in most of Europe they don't wait until high school
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 09:49 PM
Sep 2017

or worse yet college, to start learning other languages. They generally start in elementary school. It's more than possible she learned several languages, other than her native Slovenian, before she graduated high school. Oh, and you're wrong about her not having lived in any other country besides Slovenia and the U.S.

The Wiki article you linked to says she worked as a model in Paris, so she probably got fluent in French then. I wouldn't be surprised if while modelling, she travelled extensively in Europe, hence learning Italian and German if she hadn't already studied those languages.

You're showing your own ignorance about what life and learning languages is all about in much of the rest of the world.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
14. She didn't ever do the international runway shows, mostly "lad magazine" nudies and shitty
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:36 PM
Sep 2017

Ads where she's acting like she has the hots for Joe Camel. Ivanka boasted fake covers like her dad, and the reamcovers she got weren't from rags that paid for shoots- it was people using her stock photos, because Trump... runs ads.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
20. I've traveled to Paris for business. I got along fine without knowing French.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 11:12 PM
Sep 2017

Several trips totaling over 9 months. You only need a few words because they all speak English. They do appreciate you trying.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
32. That's the thing, people in other countries do learn other languages from an early age
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 01:39 AM
Sep 2017

So chances are good that people you meet will know English. I went to the USSR in 1986 with my grandmother as part of a peace group and it seemed like everyone we met from the post WWII generation spoke English - even an 11-year-old girl who went on an amusement park ride with me (my grandmother's group was mostly senior citizens ). We went to an opera and during the intermission I chatted with a girl about my age who was sitting next to me. She obviously spoke Russian, said she was fluent in French and Italian, but kept apologizing because she "didn't finish" her English. I relied on my HS French, but it was tough!

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
6. There's a video from when she was in Paris, at the children's school,
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 09:49 PM
Sep 2017

where she walks in and says, in French, "Hello, how are you?" Then she says, in French, "My name is Melania," and then it was English only.
There's the ability to say a couple of things in a language, and from there it's a long way to "near native fluency".

unc70

(6,113 posts)
7. She apparently speaks multiple languages
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 09:50 PM
Sep 2017

As I understand, Melania speaks Slovenian, of course, and learned Serbo-Croatian, German, and English in school. She then learned Italian and French while living in Milan and Paris. Her French and Italian seemed pretty good from the brief examples I’ve heard.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
9. Got any links?
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 09:56 PM
Sep 2017

I'll believe it when I see it.

I have learned not to trust anything that comes from the mouth of Don the Con and his crooked family.

I'll need to see some hard proof.

unc70

(6,113 posts)
19. Not sure how good the links are
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 11:07 PM
Sep 2017

Many of the fawning articles about Melania are in somewhat suspect publications — Daily Mail, Washington Examiner, etc. or just repeat the basic claims. I saw a fairly decent article somewhere this summer that discussed the languages spoken by all the Trump family members. (Ivana speaks a bunch of languages — Czech, Russian, French...) Can’t find that article at the moment.

My guess is that she is functional but less than fluent in several of the languages.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
27. She speaks passable English
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:00 AM
Sep 2017

Slovenian is her native language, and most Slovenians seem also to speak Serbo-Croatian. There is a significant Italian minority in Slovenia, and Italian is one of the official languages of the country, so it would be hardly strange if she is comfortably conversant in Italian, which would raise some interesting questions about her visit with the Pope. Living 25 miles from the border of Austria means that she probably also heard a great deal of German (and probably Italian) language radio and television growing up.

Heaven knows about her French, but it is very easy to believe that she speaks at least five languages rather comfortably, but so do a large percentage of other people in that region.

From Wiki:

"Regarding the knowledge of foreign languages, Slovenia ranks among the top European countries. The most taught foreign languages are English, German, Italian, French and Spanish. As of 2007, 92% of the population between the age of 25 and 64 spoke at least one foreign language and around 71.8% of them spoke at least two foreign languages, which was the highest percentage in the European Union.[231] According to the Eurobarometer survey, as of 2005 the majority of Slovenes could speak Croatian (61%) and English (56%).[232]:21

A reported 42% of Slovenes could speak German, which was one of the highest percentages outside German-speaking countries.[232] Italian is widely spoken on the Slovenian Coast and in some other areas of the Slovene Littoral. Around 15% of Slovenians can speak Italian, which is (according to the Eurobarometer pool) the third-highest percentage in the European Union, after Italy and Malta."

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Years ago I had a girlfriend who was from the then Yugoslavia. Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian....
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 11:00 PM
Sep 2017

....and German for her were pretty much interchangeable.

fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
8. Having grown up in Slovenia before the Berlin wall came down, it's likely she studied Russian
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 09:52 PM
Sep 2017

and is fairly fluent in it -- which adds an intriguing twist to the state of the world at the moment.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
10. She can't speak those languages.
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 09:56 PM
Sep 2017

You would also think there would be video of her speaking French to the Macrons during the trip to France.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
11. Very doubtful she can speak French
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:06 PM
Sep 2017

just by the way she talks its pretty obvious she is not very intelligent. people who are fluent in several languages tend to be highly educated and intelligent which is reflected in their speech and mannerisms, but Melania Trump just sounds like a total airhead bimbo with not much going on upstairs.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
36. Just tRump's kind of "lady"!!
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:46 AM
Sep 2017

They do not need to have anything "going on upstairs" as long as they have lots going on "downstairs"!!

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
12. In the Netherlands
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 10:07 PM
Sep 2017

we had Latin, French and English in the first year with German and Greek added in the second year of preparatory school.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. When she's with the donald, I understand she'll never "communicate" without a translator....
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 11:01 PM
Sep 2017

...if you catch my drift.

3catwoman3

(23,977 posts)
18. I can say...
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 11:04 PM
Sep 2017

...yes, no, please and thank you in Spanish, German, Japanese, French, Italian and Russian.

That hardly makes me a polyglot.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Remember Trump had her lie on her website
Wed Sep 20, 2017, 11:51 PM
Sep 2017

Saying she got a degree in architecture? I saw it on there and then poof it was gone. He probably made up the languages too

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
30. Yeah, if she has practiced someone elses speech.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:38 AM
Sep 2017

She can plagiarize with the best of them in any language she wants.

Doesn't fluent in a language mean read and write also?

I had a friend in high school who was fluent in 6 languages that she taught herself. Yes, she could read and write them also. I think two of them were Slovenian and Farsi. They were mostly middle east and European languages. They were languages usually not offered were I live. We are offered Spanish, a little ( very little ) French, and a little German. French and German are only offered in the community college ( yes, we actually have one of those ) and not very often.

The difference probably is that my friend is a genius where as I would never think that Melania comes even close.

Oh yeah, Russian. It has been years ( a lot of them ) so I do not remember all of the ones she knew. Truth be told some of them I had never heard of until she said what she knew.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
31. I find it likely she also took Russian in school and possibly English
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:56 AM
Sep 2017

with French and Italian added later because those are languages you need in the fashion industry.

Europeans aren't stupid about language the way the US is. They start in primary school, when kids learn them quickly. We wait until high school, when the barn door has largely closed if the kid doesn't already speak a couple of languages.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
35. She may speak 5 languages but it is clear from the time she has been seen
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 07:22 AM
Sep 2017

with trump, the two almost never communicate. It is quite creepy.

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