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Related: About this forumJohn Oliver: Daylight Saving Time - How Is This Still A Thing?
Daylight saving time doesnt actually benefit anyone. Strangely, its still a thing!
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Okay, not only did I lose and hr, but the JO video on Sunday MORNING made me think I lost a day too!
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Did you know Arizona and Hawaii don't observe DST?
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)Before work, I get up at 5:00 to lift weights and run 6 miles. Nice to run with a little daylight! It is also nice for the sun to go down later after work in the spring and summer!
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)It's depressing when it gets dark so early and I'm sick of driving home - or anywhere - in the dark. But I couldn't resist posting this since John Oliver is always funny!
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)thesquanderer
(11,992 posts)DST steals an hour of light from the morning and adds it to the evening. (Obviously, no change to the clock can actually create more daylight, all we can do is "move" it.)
The reason you have more morning light in the summer than winter is because of how the earth is moving/tilting relative to the sun, not because of daylight savings time. We naturally have more total daylight per day during part of the year, giving us that flexibility in how we "assign" it. That is, we then have enough hours of light that we can "afford" to move some of the daylight from the early morning to the evening.
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)In the winter, I want more light in the morning hours since the sun going down at 430 or 530 I am indifferent to - so standard time is better in winter. Sunlight at 430am in the summer is a waste - I would rather have that sunlight at 830pm instead of 730pm along with sunrise closer to 530am. The morning run in the summer would always be filled with light in both standard and DST.
I cant say one or the other is better permanently, hence DST is useful to me.
joshdawg
(2,651 posts)Period!
Someone gonna stop the earth from rotating? That would be the only way to save daylight.
Setting the clocks ahead or backward is sheer lunacy. It benefits no one.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/03/09/daylight-saving-time-starts-saturday-night-heres-how-things-would-change-if-we-got-rid-of-it/?utm_term=.2e20a40536d1
It's to give us more daylight in the evening instead of the morning
CousinIT
(9,257 posts)Stupid humans cannot change time and all the fiddling is ridiculous and purposeless.
thesquanderer
(11,992 posts)If we're talking about the concepts of determining "what time it is," what units to break the day into and so forth, in these respects, humans invented time. So sure, we can change it. We didn't even invent time zones until 1883. So sure, while it may have been earlier in Los Angeles than it was in Chicago, people had no reference for exactly what time it was where. Time may exist in nature, but the concept of "what time is it" is a human invention.
CousinIT
(9,257 posts)For instance, can you or I step forward or back 6 hours in Time? We can't. No one can. What has passed has passed. Humans can't control it. They can only fiddle with their own references to it. And when it comes to DST/CST - they need to stop. There's no valid reason for it -- for disrupting the majority of a population for something that only serves a small group of them (Chamber of Commerce for instance evidently still insists we keep this crap going).
Humans didn't create time. Humans can't control time. Humans can only refer to it and live by their own references to it (in some ways which are idiotic).
thesquanderer
(11,992 posts)Which is why it makes no sense to conflate the two, and suggest that the fact that humans can't control time itself has any relevance at all as to what we humans decide to do in our attempts to reference and schedule things around it.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)I've been to western Europe (Germany) several times where they don't have daylight saving time, and they seem fine without it. But it gets light awfully early every morning in the summertime, while their sundown seems to come strangely early.
The American way is what I'm comfortable with, and I think most of us are. Daylight saving time was opposed by farmers, but they've been outvoted by the city-folks. If we were to ever go back to No Daylight Saving Time - I think a lot of people would be upset.
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)Specifically Kaiser Wilhelm originally.
The real instigator of the dreaded spring forward was Kaiser Wilhelm, who wanted to preserve daylight on the battlefields of World War I. Yes, you lost an hour of sleep thanks to Germany.
http://time.com/3736864/john-oliver-daylight-saving-time/
Jeroen
(1,061 posts)It starts on March 23
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)Jeroen
(1,061 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)Some (like my computer) change automatically - and others (the clock I woke up to) do not!
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)...is beyond me. After all, they've made clocks that melt:
Hello, Dali!
betsuni
(25,618 posts)Summer: you wake up and it's broad daylight and getting hot, the birds are screaming and loud cicadas starting up, you think you've overslept and look at the clock -- 4:30 a.m. Do not like.
Rhiannon12866
(206,016 posts)Not only have we had two major snowstorms in less than two weeks, but it gets dark so early this time of year that it seems like we're constantly in the dark. The winters are long - we had a blizzard in May one year - and summers seem way too short. When I was in school I had a summer job driving a (purple!) train at an amusement park. I loved that job and I'd sometimes just sit back and feel the warm breeze hoping to remember what it was like in the long cold winter.