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Initech

(100,063 posts)
2. Wouldn't this be a direct 1st amendment violation?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 10:56 AM
Apr 2018

Oh wait - the GOP doesn't care about that either.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
6. Are you kidding?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:05 PM
Apr 2018

They set up special zones for it! The rest of the population just wanders around, free-speeching wherever they feel like it.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
3. I wish the rapture would happen & take all these mean-spirited fucks off the face of the planet.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:36 AM
Apr 2018

My own state, no less.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
4. So, if it is so vitally important that teachers do not walk out......
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:55 AM
Apr 2018

......isn't locking them up sort of also keeping them out of the classroom? Or will the kids just have class at the local correctional facility?

Maybe "some state lawmakers" should rethink their so called solution.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
11. Or they can just fire them on the spot
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:33 PM
Apr 2018

Which I'm guessing would be more what would happen.

Hickenlooper will never sign it. Dumbasses. Trying to show they won't be pushed around like WVA or Oklahoma by a bunch of teachers.

I live in Douglas County Colorado. On the last Forbes list of wealthiest counties in the US - Douglas County was 5th on the list of most wealth. We are the only county on the list that was not in a coastal state. And I would say even though Colorado ranks 46th in the nation for worst teacher pay, Douglas county probably ranks even lower. We had a BOE of Koch backed Betsy De Vos styled "reformers" who absolutely decimated this school district. It took 10 long years for even the republicans to wake up to the destruction and vote them all out and get a decent school board in that will fund our public schools. But there was so much damage done.

This was the perfect county for their prototype experiment. White, conservative christian, affluent, a lot of empty nesters that consume fox news. And it worked. Taxes, Unions, liberal - just put those words on campaign post cards and the dutiful army of republican idiots would do their job and vote for the Koch candidates.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
7. colour me soooooo not surprised about the two CO assholes, seen here:
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:20 PM
Apr 2018

paul lundeen

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bob gardner

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Colour me soooooooo not surprised--bobby is a charter school/voucher/ "school choice" activist

. . . .

Gardner graduated from the United States Air Force Academy in 1976, and served as a missile launch officer in the Air Force.[4] While an Air Force officer, Gardner earned a J.D. from the University of Texas in 1981 with honors and a L.L.M. from the George Washington University School of Law in 1986, specializing in government procurement law.[5] After earning his law degree, Gardner served in the Judge Advocate General's Corps.[4] He also taught procurement and business law as a member of the Air Force Academy law faculty.[5]

After leaving active duty in 1989 at the rank of lieutenant colonel,[4] Gardner became an attorney in private practice, specializing in government contract law,[6] representing public contractors and charter schools. He served on the board of Cheyenne Mountain Charter Academy, which he helped found, from 1994 to 1997 and on the board of the Colorado League of Charter Schools Legal Advocacy Fund.[4] He continues to operate a private law practice in Colorado Springs, Colorado,[5] specializing in government affairs and contracts, business and commercial law, and campaign and election law.[7] The law firm website is www.rsglaw.net. Gardner is divorced; he has two adult children: Bob Jr. and Laura.[6]

Political activism

From 1993-97, Gardner served as chair of the El Paso County Republican Party[4] and was involved in numerous candidate and issue campaigns in the Colorado Springs area.[citation needed] In 1999, Gardner was treasurer for the Colorado Springs Safety Association, a group opposing a ballot measure to grant police and fire personnel collective bargaining powers.[8]
Gardner registered the political committee Citizens for Honest Government to oppose a slate of candidates during Colorado Springs' 2001 city council elections,[9] and distributed fliers critical of four candidates; he was threatened with arrest following a dispute with a deputy city clerk regarding distributing flyers near an early voting site at city hall.[10] Gardner helped coordinate campaigns for a slate of "reform" candidates for Colorado Springs School District 11 in 2003 who backed school vouchers.[11][12]

He played a prominent role in the formation in 2004 of Citizens for Student Achievement and Progress, a local political committee formed to support "education reform candidates and issues" in El Paso County,[13] In 2005, he was a spokesperson for the Colorado branch of All Children Matter, a national political group supporting school choice.[14] In 2004, Gardner worked on the campaign for a local ballot measure to increase taxes to support The Resource Exchange, a nonprofit serving people with developmental disabilities. During the campaign, he submitted, for anonymous publication in voter guides, statements opposing the tax increase including: "The families of people with mental retardation, [should] not expect the government to help," and "By funding programs to care for these children, we are encouraging irresponsibility." Others working on the campaign justified the statements as a campaign tactic designed to stir support for the tax measure.[15][16]

. . . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Gardner



ancianita

(36,023 posts)
8. This issue really gets my goat. Public education is THE only human development industry
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:41 PM
Apr 2018

that's built the whole country for the last two hundred years.

 

keepleft101

(82 posts)
10. This is BS
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:16 PM
Apr 2018

I live in York, PA. Republican country and it drives me nuts because I have around 8 friends who are teachers and they all vote republican. I never understood voting against your own interest. How could any teacher vote republican?

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
13. My son's ex-inlaws are both retired educators with good pensions.......and......sigh.....
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:04 PM
Apr 2018

Now they are staunch Republicans.

I don't get it either.

Same wih my brother. Retired police officer whose union saved his ranking when the department tried to do away with his designated position years ago. Great pension and free health care for life. But.....he's a Trump supporter.

This country is full of people that once they get theirs, they don't give a crap about anyone else.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
12. Colorado Republicans are not alone in wanting to lock up teachers.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:39 PM
Apr 2018

During the West Virginia walkout, Attorney General Patrick Morrisey (presently the leading candidate to run against Senator Joe Manchin), said that he would be happy to arrest teachers.

“Let us make no mistake, the impending work stoppage is unlawful. State law and court rulings give specific parties avenues to remedy such illegal conduct, including the option to seek an injunction to end an unlawful strike.

“This illegal work stoppage affects hundreds of thousands of students and families across our state. Our office is prepared to support any relevant state agency or board with legal remedies they may choose to pursue to uphold the law. We also stand ready to assist and support any county board of education or county superintendent as they enforce the law.

“Any such action would be consistent with my duty as attorney general to uphold the rule of law and designed so as to ensure our students have access to the education they are entitled to by our state’s constitution. Breaking the law does not set a good example for our children.”


(http://wvmetronews.com/2018/02/21/attorney-general-teacher-strike-is-illegal/)


This statement was made at the beginning of the WV teacher walkout. Morrisey assumed that local school boards, superintendents, parents and other voters would be against the teachers.

Morrisey assumed poorly.


 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
14. yeah and
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:25 PM
Apr 2018

Interesting how many teachers are protesting wages and conditions AFTER....AFTER the students basically had enough dying in the classrooms..... Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Colorado...... hmmmm I wonder how many of these teachers voted for Trump, and after all this, after the threats to your students who spoke out, after the threat of jail for what the constitution says you can do.... HOW MANY OF YOU WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN AGAIN...... One can only fucking hope for change.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
15. When I had to change professions and go back to college for a second degree
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:56 PM
Apr 2018

I chose teaching for several reasons. Since then I learned that I made the wrong choice. Teaching sucks for so many reasons that I could go on for days about why. One reason I chose teaching was due to the fact that in CA there is a city, state and a national union. When I finally was able to get a contract (and my hellish life as a teacher began) I became a union rep for my school site. What a frustrating experience! Not only did I have to fight the school board and my school administration but also fellow teachers who didn't have a backbone and didn't really support the union when we needed them the most. The younger teachers were the main problem and held the rest of the employees back from making any real progress in negotiations.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
18. 78% say teachers should be paid more
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 09:31 AM
Apr 2018

But only 50% are willing to pay higher taxes. This same ratio could probably apply to many other things. In Houston, after Harvey, the big question is why hasn't Houston done more to control flooding. The mayor and the head of the flood control district said they have dozens of projects they would like to start, but their budgets won't allow them.

I will say, at the federal level, I am unwilling to pay higher taxes as long as we continue to blow hunders of billions on our bloated department of Department of Defense.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
19. There's a walkout happening here in AZ on Thursday April 26th
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 10:13 AM
Apr 2018

The teachers in the cities of Tucson and Phoenix (and suburbs) are all walking out so they are closing the schools for the strike. Some of the local churches here in Tucson are going to be open to host the students for the parents that work.

I pay 2500+ a year in property taxes and I support these teachers because they require a master's degree to teach. Where is that money going? I would really like to know.

They are calling it REDForED here.

edit: missing words for clarity.

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