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Mon Sep 3, 2018, 03:28 PM

A more sobering look at John McCain's legacy

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Reply A more sobering look at John McCain's legacy (Original post)
Power 2 the People Sep 2018 OP
elleng Sep 2018 #1
pennylane100 Sep 2018 #2
yuiyoshida Sep 2018 #3
Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #11
jodymarie aimee Sep 2018 #4
BamaRefugee Sep 2018 #5
BamaRefugee Sep 2018 #6
mucifer Sep 2018 #7
BamaRefugee Sep 2018 #8
mucifer Sep 2018 #9
elmac Sep 2018 #10
Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #12
BamaRefugee Sep 2018 #13
rusty quoin Sep 2018 #14
Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #16
Nitram Sep 2018 #15

Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 03:34 PM

1. Thanks.

I've posted this in several places.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 03:50 PM

2. I have also read some less than flattering reports about his life.

However, the elaborate days" long public celebration of his life did not bother with any negative facts about his life. That would have not allowed for the endless hours of viewing all the good things he had done, and there were also many of them. It was also a show of public brain washing and a poke in the eye of Trump.

Sadly the only balance in today"s "free press" comes from people like Any Goodman.

Thank you for the link.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 04:31 PM

3. I remember being disgusted with McCain's "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb....

Bomb, Bomb IRAN" comment and laughing about it... I wonder if the Beach Boys were
disgusted with that comment as well?

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 10:01 PM

11. Brian was the only Democrat but the other three living members are all Fox News right wingers

so they probably loved it.

As usual the Democrat was the only talent in the band.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 04:39 PM

4. was not a fan when he was alive..

 

not a fan dead. Simple as that.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 04:55 PM

5. Does this mean we can now tell the truth about this guy and not get slammed here?

Man, the way DUers were wailing and gnashing their teeth at his death, I can't imagine the heights that will be reached when Bush and Cheney meet their maker.
I don't get it.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 05:06 PM

6. SHORT AND SWEET: all he ever really did is CURATE HIS IMAGE. Name one thing he proposed and passed..

...that helped the little guy.
Don't give me his "thumbs down" on the health care vote, that was 100% his way of getting revenge for tRump's "I like people who weren't captured", nothing else.
For cripes sake, this guy FILIBUSTERED against raising the minimum wage from $5.15, and totally opposed the minimum wage for ANYONE.


Why were progressives weeping for him?????

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 05:32 PM

7. I agree with you. I just stayed away from McCain threads those days and kept

my opinions to myself.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 05:35 PM

8. me too basically, amazing that on a Democratic forum we are forced to stay silent about a Republican

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 05:37 PM

9. I didn't feel forced. I just didn't feel right to bring it all up between his death and the burial.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:22 PM

10. I witnessed some nasty responses, name calling

 

when negative statements about Mccain were posted in the farewell to the king threads. I respect his service, mainly before his political days, but it went on, and on, and on, started before he passed.

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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 10:09 PM

12. He did champion and pass the McCain-Feingold Campaign finance reform taking money out of poltics.

He lived off of that accomplishment for 8 years before Citizens United blew it up. Even though it was his signature legislative accomplishment,in true McCain fashion,he shrugged his shoulders and got in line when it was blown up.

John McCain was a maverick with his words but a right-wing sycophant with his vote.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 10:43 PM

13. yep, do McCain-Feingold, then vote FOR the confirmation of

Those justices that would bring it down.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:00 AM

14. McCain to me was a mixed bag.

 

It seemed he had scruples earlier in his career, but politics became more important even after the 2004 South Carolina hit job on him by Rove. It was on his adopted daughter, during the primaries.

So I watched McCain speak at the 2004 Republican Convention go after Michael Moore who was there. The Republicans love to hate, so McCain got them on his side. He ended up by embracing Bush, even after what they did to his family. McCain had lost respect from me then. The angry guy was willing to do anything to keep Republicans elected.

He ran in 2008 and I thought he had the best chance to win out of the clowns. I thought if he picked Joe Lieberman as his running mate that we could be in trouble. Wasnít it during that race he did a commercial saying something like, Build this damn wall. He didnít believe it. He had lost his scruples. He would do anything to win, and thank God he picked Sarah.

So maybe the thumbs down vote was good. It was good. People die without health insurance and it may be the greatest vote of his life.

I have thought that the reason that Obama took up up healthcare was a moral reason. I think of him as a good person who saw probably the biggest crisis here, and went through this exhaustive solution to it. McCain gave the thumbs down vote.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:22 PM

16. Correct Rusty. He did whatever it took to stay in power. Self preservation was his main motivator.

He got in bed with the radicals when it suited him.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:10 AM

15. I don't mind that eulogies after McCain's death omitted the negative aspects of his life.

Even the media is expected to show that kind of respect on such an occasion. but after some time has passed, it is time to fill in the gaps and set the record straight for posterity. McCain was often a childishly enthusiastic war hawk, devoid of compassion for the downtrodden and disadvantaged people in our society.

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