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The Time to Impeach is Now. (Original Post) tomhagen Jan 2019 OP
It's hard to disagree, but. . . matt819 Jan 2019 #1
Caught a interview the other day with Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #2
No. It's not. Why play into Putin's hands and give him an impeachment he'll survive? Baltimike Jan 2019 #3
The Republican party has lost their way. ffr Jan 2019 #4
went to the youtube link to check on the over-under 0rganism Jan 2019 #5

matt819

(10,749 posts)
1. It's hard to disagree, but. . .
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jan 2019

The impetus has to come from the Republicans, both in the House and Senate.

If there's no substantial Republican support in the House, the attempt to impeach will be seen by the RW as a coup and further embolden the hard right, possibly to the extent of violence.

Let's say there's bipartisan support for impeachment and it goes to the Senate. If the Republicans vote in a block, they will stop the veto, which, as above, will embolden the right.

Nixon resigned when he realized that he had lost the support of the Republican Party. At this point, notwithstanding a few Republicans, Trump still has the support of the Party and of his so-called base. Yes, they are crazy and despicable. But they are also dangerous. To say nothing of how they will be encouraged and maybe even financially supported by the hard right billionaires and the Russian government and oligarchy.

Yes, things suck now, and they are going to get worse. We all wake up every day wondering what fresh new hell awaits us, and Trump and his cult followers do not disappoint in this regard. Every. Single. Fucking. Day. But RW legislators, and some portion of the RW base, may/will only be moved to action when they realize that it is their own party that is doing the damage. And as the cannibalize themselves, it may even move some of the crazies to vote D in the 2020. But if the Dems start the process with impeachment, I fear we lose that edge. Yeah, that sucks, and it hurts a lot of people in the meantime, but it is the only way we can rebuild.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Caught a interview the other day with
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jan 2019

Tom Steyer. Yes,we are way past the point of issuing letters of Impeachment,but,until the MSM starts the Conversation in their Ranks,it is not going happen. If Nancy Pelosi's stance on this joke of a border symbolic wall is reversed,well,kiss the House of Representatives good bye my friends.

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
3. No. It's not. Why play into Putin's hands and give him an impeachment he'll survive?
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:04 PM
Jan 2019

If anything, we need to get rid of Pence first, then Trump just after. That's the only way we will see real justice.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
4. The Republican party has lost their way.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jan 2019

Their leader, Mitch McConnell is watching as his party dies slowly every day. It appears he feels that his best move to to retain whatever power the GOP can clutch to before the inevitable. Sad really, but mostly unconstitutional and un-American.

McConnell should resign. He is a disgrace to all those who serve this nation.

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