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The American Destruction of Venezuela - The Real Story (Original Post) Power 2 the People Feb 2019 OP
K&R Thanks for emphasizing that point. alwaysinasnit Feb 2019 #1
K & R LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #2
Thanks for posting this. Best discussion yet on Green-N-D. This should be required onit2day Feb 2019 #3
On paying 4 Green New Deal onit2day Feb 2019 #4
This is so shameful in so many accounts, in regards to Venezuela Perseus Feb 2019 #5
Hartman show is on RT, right? Trueblue Texan Feb 2019 #6
No. Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #7
Both Hugo Chavez and his successor Nocolas Maduro are life long communists. olegramps Feb 2019 #8
vladimir pootin is a lifelong communist too DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #9

LiberalLovinLug

(14,154 posts)
2. K & R
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:36 PM
Feb 2019

A general, brief synopsis. But worth watching.
He makes a point about all kinds of system's economies diving at points in history all over the world, and in fact occur more often in capitalist countries.
They were already sanctioned and starved of American dollars. The oil crash was the nail in the coffin. And the vultures doubled their pressure. .

Also his comment about how on Maduros side of the legislature, they were all dark skinned, as are the majority of the country. On the other, all white European descendents who represented the oldest privaledged minority who got rich selling off their country, and want to get back to it.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
3. Thanks for posting this. Best discussion yet on Green-N-D. This should be required
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:38 AM
Feb 2019

video for anyone talking about paying for GreenND. Trump is backing a coup to overthrow a democratically elected gov. bby making it harder on its citizens with sanctions etc. just cause Trump thinks it will help get him reelected. Human life means nothing to this Psychopath. I am ashamed of America for putting all those children ion cages, thousands of 'em, and private contractors charging $700/per child per day to cage. Pence and Trump should go to jail for this.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
5. This is so shameful in so many accounts, in regards to Venezuela
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:44 AM
Feb 2019

Lets start with the flimsy reason Thom brings about "people of color" and "white people" in Venezuela. Venezuelan's have never cared about color, a common nickname for a dark person in Venezuela is "negro", and they are proud to have that nickname.

For Thom Hartman and Richard Wolf to not recognize that this is not about racism, that it is about a regime that is not "socialist", "democratic", but a ruthless dictatorship and a kleptocracy of the highest order is a sad situation that misleads people in the USA who watches them and don't bother to read about the topic somewhere else.

Venezuela is a bank account for the thugs that hold the government, Maduro is Colombian, he was not born in Venezuela and all the people in the government are not fit to hold positions in the government or even be executives at small businesses. Some of the people in the government today do not have the ability to write well, and when you hear them speak you end up thinking trump is an academic.

The other day one of the senators was praising some industry they claim they started and said "it is magnificent, they build 400 chairs in one week, which comes down to 4,000 chairs per month"...you do the math.

Guaido is not white as Thom and Wolf imply, Venezuela is a melting pot, has always been and yes, a lot of its citizens have European ancestors because, guess what, we were once a Spanish colony, after World War II a lot of Germans migrated to Venezuela, a lot of Italians, Portuguese, and many other nations, the jew population is huge, and they all get along, they don't have racial issues like the USA has. That claim of color is disingenuous to say the least.

Very sad commentary the one about Venezuela. The reason Bolivia is not like Venezuela is because Bolivia is a "Democratic/Socialist" country, but Venezuela is a kleptocracy, its government traffics with drugs, its military is corrupt and there are Cubans in high command, they have brought the country to its knees, the oil infrastructure is in shambles, the infrastructure of the country is too, all they do is rob, support terrorist groups, and thos so called socialists live like kings in huge mansions in Venezuela...

Thom Hartman and Richard Wolf have disgraced themselves with those commentaries, I keep wondering if Thom Hartman has become the fox news of the Maduro regime.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
7. No.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 12:55 PM
Feb 2019

Thom stopped licensing his content to them in 2017. He licensed the show to RT, partially in exchange for use of their television studios and facilities. The show was owned by Hartmann's company, which had contractual editorial control over the program. The editorial staff of the show were also employees of Hartmann's company.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
8. Both Hugo Chavez and his successor Nocolas Maduro are life long communists.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:23 PM
Feb 2019

Under Chavez he turned Venezuela into a puppet ruled by Cuba. He was responsible for the destruction of the nation, which was suffering from the collapse of the oil market, just as were several other countries in South America. His alliance with the Cubans resulted in the Cubans having total influence over the Chaves administration. His policies, which have been continued by Maduro have left the people in desperation with over 2.5 million having fled the country. People are literally starving to death. Chavez was a typical demagogue who took advantage of the situation promising the people he would return the nation to prosperity. The fact is that he destroyed the chance of the nation's recovery. Here are just a couple of facts: hyperinflation has reached one million percent per year. Over 60 percent of Venezuelans life in extreme poverty and 89% report that don't have enough money to food. It so drastic that over 60 percent report that they have lost an average of 24 pounds. The nation is in collapse with the health care, education and policing. A small cadre of the high-ranking officials, including members of the presidents family were indicted in U.S. federal courts on money laundering charges concerning $2.1 billion dollars in illegal funds from drugs and the oil industry that is now in shambles.

These facts are taken from the article published in the journal Foreign Affairs by Moises Naim and Francisco Toro. Naim is Distinguished Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and editor of the The Atlantic. Toro is Chief Content Officer at Group or Fifty and Global Opinion Columnist for The Washington Post. I would suggest that anyone wanting a comprehensive coverage of the situation include their informed articles.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
9. vladimir pootin is a lifelong communist too
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:44 AM
Feb 2019

And he's leading the person in the White House around by his nose.

Now ask yourself, why would donald trump want to overturn Venezuela's government while obviously working as an agent for vladimir pootin?

OIL?

What is russia's economy based on.

OIL.

Why on earth would anyone in their right mind trust Fat Cat Capitalists and donald j trump - at the direction of vladimir pootin - to do the right thing towards Venezuela?

You're being played again.

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