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(62,411 posts)when it was discovered.
Not sure if this belongs, but it was sure instrumental in the cover up.
ArizonaLib
(1,242 posts)Dems must push full steam ahead with the details in the report, and with everything else. If it were a Dem president, Republicans would be setting the world on fire.
niyad
(113,278 posts)cp
(6,626 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)His published philosophy is "It isn't illegal if the President does it."
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)be something there.
ArizonaLib
(1,242 posts)All of those investigations he spun off and without an indictment or recommendation for an indictment, it might give the Democrats more to fire at Trump for much longer than a single event like an indictment that the SCOTUS might not support enough. Trump was already screaming 'No collusion' but he was already doing so. Once the Mueller report's release is no longer on top of the news cycle he must deal with everything else. Those will remain in the news cycle, and he is scared to death about the dossier McCain had delivered. He knew last week the Mueller report omitted conclusions, but he remains freaked out about the other stuff. He might have had a good Sunday and a less horrible week than those in recent months, but the state investigations are going keep him up at night and it is not really possible to see a MAGA popularity resurgence. The embarrassment those followers are beginning to sense will begin to increase again. Watch for it - it is happening in red states, where they are being asked to leave restaurants and posts on social media about looking for 'safe' places to gather have been popping up. Mueller is a republican, but I think he hates Trump. Mueller knows how to do the most long term damage - if he was carrying water for Trump, he would not have taken much action against Cohen and the others. It is possible he did the maximum he could to make it as miserable for Trump in the coming years or the rest of his life. It is possible. It doesn't feel like it today, and think about it - if no Mueller report was issued or if they threatened to shut down the investigation and gave him till this weekend to issue a report, Mueller did alot more damage than anyone sympathetic to republicans or Trump. If they did threaten to shut down the investigation, the Mueller report would be considered invalid.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)But right now I am disappointed.
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ArizonaLib
(1,242 posts)If he didn't do his job the Dem leadership needs to pick up where he 'left off'.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Why the hell would you do that?
Barr's reputation is shit - he's the Iran-Contra cleanup guy.
Mueller's reputation is stellar.
nightwing1240
(1,996 posts)or you'll be accused of whining or told to STFU. Just being sarcastic while being truthful at the same time.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)THIS!!!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Gaslighting.....
JudyM
(29,233 posts)58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...list also gives me doubts about Mueller too. I feel gaslighted all around.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Don't be so gullible.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)But Mueller didn't even interview Don Jr. who did meet with Russians. Why not? Don Jr. Does nothing without Daddy's okay. Why didn't Mueller even talk to him?
I'm afraid that in his instincts he's too much of a Repug to go hard after the facts of a Repug President. Mueller was, after all, the head of the FBI during Bush's tenure. You remember him--the guy that lied us into war.
Have never trusted the FBI since Hoover. Spied on MLK. And Peace Groups and BLM. Who gets put in charge of it except one of the old boys?
Just not sure Mueller asked the really hard questions.
That's what gaslighted means---you don't feel trust for any one or anything. It doesn't mean I've gone over into conspiracy theories that Mueller is a mole---only that something seems seriously wrong and it isn't all Barr.
I have to question what kind of investigation Mueller actually ran.Was it the kind of investigation Nadler would have done? In fact, I wish a Democrat had been the special prosecutor. He or she would have gone where it might not have occurred to a Repug to tread.
My worry is that rather than saying "Let's let the chips fall"---he said, "Let's not look at that chip."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And there is more than one plausible answer; only some of the possibilities are negative for Mueller.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)We all need gaslight bumper stickers to let everyone know what's going on in our autocratic government.
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)dalton99a
(81,468 posts)PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As interpreted.) Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-president-putin-russian-federation-joint-press-conference/
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)Thank you. My sentiment exactly.
Cha
(297,180 posts)Mahalo, EarlG.. Perfect