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The Daily Show: Trump Brings U.S. to Brink of War with Iran (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 OP
The Orange Oaf thinks this will guarantee him re-election sandensea Jun 2019 #1
Does no one remember Iraq or Afghanistan?? Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #4
Well, that's the 'beauty' of 9/11 sandensea Jun 2019 #8
None of the 9/11 hijackers were from Iran, either Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #9
They don't care sandensea Jun 2019 #10
The only reason that Iraq survived the Iran-Iraq war of the '80s Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #11
You know that, and I know that - but all this is MUCH too much for your avg. GOP voter to comprehend sandensea Jun 2019 #12
I'm afraid that you're right - but only coming from those who remember that far back Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #13
Which makes Trump the perfect president for scheming neo-cons sandensea Jun 2019 #14
You're absolutely right on all counts! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #15
Thank you. And your description's undeniable. sandensea Jun 2019 #16
That's the thing! Didn't we learn anything from Iraq and Afghanistan?? Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #17
Thank goodness for his pal Putin - at least in this one instance. sandensea Jun 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #3
He is so inept that he puts this country in danger every single day Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #6
Every time we think it can't possibly get worse, he manages to top himself Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #7

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
1. The Orange Oaf thinks this will guarantee him re-election
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jun 2019

And we had better keep an eye on this - because it just might.

Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
2. Does no one remember Iraq or Afghanistan??
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 11:47 PM
Jun 2019

Last I knew, we still had troops there - and we still hear about who in Congress voted for or against the debacle in Iraq. Can no one remember back that far?? And Iran is three times the size, not to mention three times the population.

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sandensea

(21,677 posts)
8. Well, that's the 'beauty' of 9/11
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:24 AM
Jun 2019

From that moment on, any and all aggression against Muslim-majority countries is almost automatically applauded by 40%+ of the voting public - and nearly all Republicans.

No matter how asinine, self-serving, pointless, or undeserved.

Bush and his boys knew what they were doing.

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
10. They don't care
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:29 AM
Jun 2019

"They're Mooslims, that's all I know."

"If they've got towels on their head, they're gonna be dead."

Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
11. The only reason that Iraq survived the Iran-Iraq war of the '80s
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jun 2019

Was with aid from the Reagan and Bush I administrations. Iran is a much larger and more dangerous adversary than Iraq ever was - and look how we made out there. I know these things and I don't need to! How has this escaped the "deciders??"

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
12. You know that, and I know that - but all this is MUCH too much for your avg. GOP voter to comprehend
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:44 AM
Jun 2019

The older ones might respond with: "But didn't Eye-ran hold Americans hostage in '80?"

"I thought you Dummycrats would at least get upset they got your boy Jimmy Carter defeated!"

Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
13. I'm afraid that you're right - but only coming from those who remember that far back
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:29 AM
Jun 2019

It boggles the mind that so many have absolutely no sense of even recent history - let alone Trump who has no idea what has happened in the world in his lifetime. I'm amazed that he managed to remember the difference between Iran and Iraq.

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
14. Which makes Trump the perfect president for scheming neo-cons
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 01:46 AM
Jun 2019

He reminds me of something else from the late '70s: Chauncey the Gardener from Being There (except without any of the genteel virtues Chauncey at least had).

Cheeto's a blank slate, whose greed and degeneracy is exceeded only by his abject ignorance of the world around him. He's also, of course, an egomaniac and all-around touchy bastard.

Perfect for sly, manipulative weasels like John "new Pearl Harbor" Bolton.

All they have to do is egg him on, like a coach giving his dim-witted but imposing full-back a half-time pep talk.

"You know what they call you, son? Dumb ox! You're not gonna let those jerks get away with that are you?"

"No, sir!!! Errrrgh!"

Plus, in this case, all they'd have to do is remind him how "good this would be for your re-election!"

"And," Jared would chime in, "our bank accounts!"

Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
15. You're absolutely right on all counts!
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:05 AM
Jun 2019

What happens in this country - and this world - means nothing to him. He does not care about anyone or anything - not even enough to make an effort to learn about a damn thing! I've long believed that he got the idea to run for president with only one thing in mind - the only thing that does matter to him - as a money making scheme. Every misguided "business" scheme that he'd tried had failed and he was out of options - but he believed that this could raise his profile, he never expected to "win." But he found that not only was this a way to tap into the U.S. treasury for the benefit of himself and his grifting family, but he also found that he loved the attention, the cheering crowds, people listening to him no matter what he said or did! He had no intention of actually doing the job - and he hasn't. And he intends to stick with it because he now sees himself as untouchable, above any norm or law, because "he said so."

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
16. Thank you. And your description's undeniable.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:29 AM
Jun 2019

Sometimes I feel countries are like people in that respect:

We go through certain things to learn important lessons - and not all of those are easy.

Of course though, after Bush I thought we might have been past all this war-drum, chest pounding business.

And maybe we are. I might be that Bolton will find it harder to string the voters along this time around.

Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
17. That's the thing! Didn't we learn anything from Iraq and Afghanistan??
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:41 AM
Jun 2019

How can we have forgotten so soon?? There were massive protests all over the country - and not just here - against invading Iraq. And what did that get us?? We have to be weary of pointless foreign wars by now - and Iran is no Iraq or Afghanistan, Iran is a much more formidable enemy. And then we have Trump who is stuck in the '80s and has no idea who even rules Iran now - another Frederick Douglass moment!

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
18. Thank goodness for his pal Putin - at least in this one instance.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:46 AM
Jun 2019

He's the only one Trump still listens to! (besides his daughter, who's too busy shaking the Chinese down to care).

There isn't a doubt in my mind Cheeto called the attack off the other day because Putin called him, and gave him a good talking to.

You have to sometimes with children, you know.

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Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
5. He is so inept that he puts this country in danger every single day
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:05 AM
Jun 2019

Coupled with the fact that he actually thinks "he alone" knows what he's doing - unlike any president in history who had experienced advisors to consult on each and every issue we faced. And yet it takes the late night comedians to point this out!

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Rhiannon12866

(206,157 posts)
7. Every time we think it can't possibly get worse, he manages to top himself
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:17 AM
Jun 2019

While we were already freaking out about the countless dangers he's fomented here at home - and how he's managed to alienate and anger our allies throughout the world - now we have to be scared witless about the prospect of an even more devastating and unwinnable war in the Middle East! There is no low that cannot be reached with Trump.

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