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Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:39 PM

Jeffrey Epstein's Victim Details Abuse / Virginia Giuffre Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal (BBC).

This is a shocking and high quality BBC documentary that premiered 12/2/19.

I find it hard to understand why Ghislaine Maxwell is not a current target (perhaps she is?).

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Response to PufPuf23 (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:11 PM

1. Prince Andrew: "I admit fully that my judgment was probably colored...

by my tendency to be too honorable.

LOL - yeah, that was the problem!

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Response to polichick (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:20 PM

2. The video is loaded with jaw-droppers.

Prince Andrew turns out to be a total (lying) sleazeball.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:42 PM

5. Really. Thanks for posting it!

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Response to polichick (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:44 PM

6. My thought when I heard that . . .

. . . was, "Who actually says something like that expecting to be taken seriously?"

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:01 PM

8. It's absurd, but he said it so thoughtfully...

I wondered if he actually believed it himself.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:35 PM

3. Prince Charles had a close "friendship" with pedophile Jimmy Savile





There are 100s of photos of Savile and the Royals on the internet.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=jimmy+savile+prince+charles&qpvt=jimmy+savile+prince+charles&FORM=IGRE

Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal

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Jimmy Savile (19262011) was an English media personality who was well known in the United Kingdom for his eccentricities and, at the time of his death, was generally respected for his charitable work. He was knighted in 1990. In late 2012, almost a year after his death, reports surfaced indicating that Savile had committed sexual abuse against hundreds of individuals throughout his 50-year career, his alleged victims ranging from prepubescent girls and boys to adults.

By 11 October 2012, allegations had been made to thirteen British police forces,[1] which led to the setting-up of inquiries into practices at the BBC and within the National Health Service. On 19 October, London's Metropolitan Police launched a formal criminal investigation, Operation Yewtree, into historic allegations of child sexual abuse by Savile and other individuals, some still living, over four decades. The Metropolitan Police stated that it was pursuing over 400 lines of inquiry, based on the claims of 200 witnesses, via fourteen police forces across the UK. It described the alleged abuse as being "on an unprecedented scale", and the number of potential victims as "staggering".[2][3] By 19 December, eight people had been questioned as part of the investigation. The Met stated that the total number of alleged victims was 589, of whom 450 alleged abuse by Savile.[4][5]

The report of the investigations undertaken jointly by the police and the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC), Giving Victims a Voice, was published on 11 January 2013. It reported allegations covering a period of 50 years, including 214 alleged acts by Savile which, though uncorroborated, have been formally recorded as crimes, some involving children as young as eight. The report states "within the recorded crimes there are 126 indecent acts and 34 rape/penetration offences."[6] Alleged offences took place at thirteen hospitals as well as on BBC premises, according to the report.[6][7] In October 2013 it was announced that inquiries had been extended to other hospitals.[8] On 26 June 2014, the Secretary of State for Health, Jeremy Hunt, reported on the findings of the investigations led by Kate Lampard. He said that Savile had sexually assaulted victims aged between 5 and 75 in NHS hospitals, and he apologized to the victims.[9] Further investigations, in hospitals and elsewhere, led to additional allegations of sexual abuse by Savile.

A significant part of Savile's career and public life involved working with children and young people, including visiting schools and hospital wards. He spent 20 years from 1964 presenting Top of the Pops before a teenage audience, and an overlapping 20 years presenting Jim'll Fix It, in which he helped the wishes of viewers, mainly children, come true. During his lifetime, two police investigations considered reports about Savile, the earliest known being in 1958, but none had led to charges; the reports had each concluded that there was insufficient evidence for any charges to be brought related to sexual offences.[10][11][12] In October 2012 it was announced that the Director of Public Prosecutions, Keir Starmer, would investigate why proceedings against Savile in 2009 were dropped.

continues at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:41 PM

4. And Louis Montbatten too. Can't believe Kate allowed her son...

... to be named for a suspected pedophile, apparently in an effort by the royal family to fix his reputation.

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Response to polichick (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:46 PM

7. Somehow, I doubt Kate had much say about that . . . n/t

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:02 PM

9. Maybe not, but I was disgusted when they announced the name...

Poor innocent little boy!

Added on edit: And George was given the name Louis too.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:32 PM

10. Dershowitz is such a sleaze bag. His legalese just screams complicit knowledge if not outright guilt



And Andrew, ew. Why isn't Mar-a-Scamalot being investigated more? That seems to have been a center for procurement.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:17 PM

11. The bottom line to the Epstein case is that very powerful people were involved who didn't

want it to come out that they were involved. That's why the prosecution barred victims from charging anyone who had helped Epstein (though that was later ruled to have been an unlawful decision). That's what he got a sweetheart deal the first time around. Trump and Prince Andrew's involvement might have been enough for prosecutors to decide it was too hot to handle and might even have international repercussions.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 09:53 PM

12. Andrew will NEVER cop to his involvement with Epstein

nor his atrocious behavior with these young girls. He will go to his grave proclaiming his innocence.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 01:03 AM

13. For later viewing... (n/t)

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Response to Moostache (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 10, 2019, 01:28 AM

14. I watched the clip in three installments starting Saturday

and finishing today, I wanted to watch the clip in entirety prior to posting to DU.

The documentary makes the situation more real and more disgusting (and this is not a new aspect of the Royal Family ughh.)

Glad I watched. Well worth the time.

Authorities following up every thread in an investigation is important because a RICO sized international recurrent pervert event should be addressed and our leaders and media and courts are going to whistle pass the train wreck and things like Epstein will continue (and I would wager that nothing like Epstein's realm could exist without authority looking away and that there is blackmail, bribes, and spy craft involved). When one looks at Epstein, Trump, Prince Andrew, Maxwell, and their kind, the World seems very small and interconnected.

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